As promised PC2700 thru PC3700 $68 and up

[UCDznutz]

i'm waiting for Crucial's 256mb ddr2700 to hit $50 before i order *cross fingers*

 

[krunchHead]

i just ordered a 512 stick of the 3500 with cu heat spreader

ill let you all know

 

[JCJiffy]

I placed an order very early this morning:

Insane Deal: PC3200 512MB 400MHz - CAS 2.0 PC3200512CL2 1 $118.95
- Copper Heat Spreader - Winbond Chips

The status on the page said in stock.

Four hours later, I got this email from them:

Hello,

The experation date for your credit card is in-valid. Please call us so
we can fix this and complete your order. Thank you.

Best Regards,
Sales Team
Sales@hardcorecooling.com

I always double check the info I enter when purchasing things online. I was pretty sure I entered the correct month and date. I haven't heard of just the expiration date being invalid. But this is the first inquiry, so I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. I may have entered the date incorrectly or something. Anyway, I emailed them the correct month and year, so we'll see what happens. I don't have the time to call them during their EST work hours.

 

[Phunktion]

Originally posted by: classy
Has anyone confirmed that these are indeed Winbond 4.5ns chips?

 

[RobsTV]

Originally posted by: GotIssues

anybody else purchase this ram and have any comments?

Just got mine today. Bought the $120 winbond 512 stick of pc3200. Ended up with a stick of OCZ Performance Revision 2. The heat spreader was put on all goofy like (not centered, had to shave off a tad of the heat spreader so it would fit into the socket). If I had a 1/6 on my motherboard (Abit KX7-333), I would get you some maximum OCing results, but alas, I do not have that atm. Really doesn't like 1t for some reason, oh well.
SiSoftware Sandra

(snip)
Environment Monitor 1
Model : Winbond W83697HF ISA
Version : 6.00
Mainboard Specific Support : No

The Winbond you made bold is not memory.
It is on the motherboard, and used for hardware monitoring.
My Samsung sticks show same thing in Sandra.

 

[RobsTV]

Originally posted by: pspada
Ok, let's be clear. The OCZ memory is selling for $159.95. They had so many orders for the Winbond PC3200 that they could not fulfil the orders, so they took a loss and gave some people OCZ so that they would not have to wait a week or more to receive their memory.

I got the Winbond PC3200. If you got the OCZ, and want to swap, feel free to PM me.

Are you sure you do not work for these guys, or are somehow connected with them?
I would be pissed if I ordered a non-OCZ stick and was sent one anyway, even if it was priced higher.
Also seems odd that same OCZ PC3500 memory is priced higher here than at Newegg, ($135 delivered), yet the other memory is priced lower.
But, price does NOT reflect quality.
Also as has been stated by others, the manufacturing process and PCB used are just as important as the actual chips used.
OCZ has been known to be hit or miss in that regard.

In this thread, too much emphysis is put on the chips used, or CAS rate and not the manufacturer.
Most good manufacturers of memory actually rate their CAS on the light side.
For example, most CAS 2.5 will easily do CAS 2.0 at same speed, if built well. CAS 3.0 will do CAS 2.5, etc.
Corsair, Twinmos, and Samsung are three companies that build sticks in this manner.

For the best info on what memory you should get, and where to get it from, go to forums dedicated to the motherboard you use.
An example is: Amdmb.com ---- Epox forum

 

[kehi]

I know I will never buy OCZ again :disgust:

 

[Oakenfold]

Wow, guess I'm kinda glad I held off too, was seriously looking at the 3700 if they even have it in yet.
Sounds like has a bunch of people on the ball, won't be too long before things get lit up or the ram turns out to be winbond.

 

[Jaxidian]

This reseller doesn't seem too bad at all. I placed my order for 2 sticks on Monday (knowing they were OOS) and they were shipped yesterday (Wendesday). I also called in and the CSR took his time to explain the situation to me and give me my options if I wanted to cancel the order now or later. I also asked him about my options should the memory fail to be stable at the advertised speeds/settings and he said that if it fails to function as advertised, I can send it back for an exchange or refund.

Maybe they're not the biggest, well-knowned reseller but they seem pretty top notch to me.

 

[pspada]

Originally posted by: RobsTV

Originally posted by: pspada
Ok, let's be clear. The OCZ memory is selling for $159.95. They had so many orders for the Winbond PC3200 that they could not fulfil the orders, so they took a loss and gave some people OCZ so that they would not have to wait a week or more to receive their memory.

I got the Winbond PC3200. If you got the OCZ, and want to swap, feel free to PM me.

Are you sure you do not work for these guys, or are somehow connected with them?...<snip>
...OCZ has been known to be hit or miss in that regard.

For the best info on what memory you should get, and where to get it from, go to forums dedicated to the motherboard you use.
An example is: Amdmb.com ---- Epox forum

Work for who, OCZ? I do know that OCZ memory got a bad rep from the fake OCZ that was circulating for a time.

Cool forum there, too bad my FIC AN19E is not listed.

 

[aldamon]

Originally posted by: pspada
Ok, let's be clear. The OCZ memory is selling for $159.95. They had so many orders for the Winbond PC3200 that they could not fulfil the orders, so they took a loss and gave some people OCZ so that they would not have to wait a week or more to receive their memory.

I got the Winbond PC3200. If you got the OCZ, and want to swap, feel free to PM me.

This deal is over if that's happening. PERIOD. I don't think good intentions justify bait and switch in any situation.

Now, I've already posted that you can get retail box CORSAIR PC3200 for only $20 more at Googlegear (if you upgrade the shipping Hardcore Cooling to match Googlegear's second day service). You won't be backordered. You'll actually get what you ordered. It will be retail boxed and guaranteed to work by Corsair. What exactly is the attraction to this crap shoot deal? Is $20 worth the hassle?

 

[EXman]

Is $20 worth the hassle?

I guess it is to some except the poor souls at the Hard forum getting v-data chips. and the chaps here with crummy heatspredders on OCZ chips.

pspada don't take this so personally this deal was out 3 days earlier on Hard forum I don't think you represent them but you have to admit there is some bait and switching going on. regardless of prices most people just want what they pay for. I do not think that is too much to ask from a consumer standpoint.

I'd hate to admit but Google and corsair are looking good. still expensive IMHO but piece of mind and a good warranty for $20 is not too shabby.

 

[tbrooks40]

Originally posted by: aldamon

Originally posted by: pspada
Ok, let's be clear. The OCZ memory is selling for $159.95. They had so many orders for the Winbond PC3200 that they could not fulfil the orders, so they took a loss and gave some people OCZ so that they would not have to wait a week or more to receive their memory.

I got the Winbond PC3200. If you got the OCZ, and want to swap, feel free to PM me.

This deal is over if that's happening. PERIOD. I don't think good intentions justify bait and switch in any situation.

Now, I've already posted that you can get retail box CORSAIR PC3200 for only $20 more at Googlegear (if you upgrade the shipping Hardcore Cooling to match Googlegear's second day service). You won't be backordered. You'll actually get what you ordered. It will be retail boxed and guaranteed to work by Corsair. What exactly is the attraction to this crap shoot deal? Is $20 worth the hassle?

aldamon take it easy dawg. you know me as a straight shooter and i have dealt with these guys and they are on the up and up. if someone got OCZ memory and ordered winbond these people were trying to help not hurt. i spoke with a few guys at legnth over the phone they are nice people to deal with trust me.

whoever got the wrong memory send it back for whatever you ordered as they have a money back guarantee so i'm sure they would be glad to swap the memory for you as teh 3200 (i think was mentioned) is now in stock. i ordered the insane pc3200 ddr and got a module with a chromed heatspreader (haven't checked the chips) and it runs at 197 fsb at maxed timings on my ep0x board... well the timings are actually 2-2-2-6-1. it would probably run at 2-2-2-5-1 but on the website they have the timings with the 6 instead of the 5. i think this is probably because at 2-2-2-5-1 you have a much greater chance for corruption issues. this is a known workaround for a lot of people with ANY brand of memory as it has to do with the speed the memory is working at and not a problem with the memory itself.

i had corsair XMS PC3200LL originally and i can tell you from experience that the winbond seems much more stable and faster according to sandra. i tried everything i could and couldnt get teh corsair to this speed and when i got this memory i took the corsair out and put the winbond in then went straight to the bios and upped teh fsb (where the corsair was locking up in windows) and the winbond booted and hasn't crashed once and i've upped teh fsb a few more times since without issues.

 

[aldamon]

Originally posted by: tbrooks40

aldamon take it easy dawg. you know me as a straight shooter and i have dealt with these guys and they are on the up and up. if someone got OCZ memory and ordered winbond these people were trying to help not hurt. i spoke with a few guys at legnth over the phone they are nice people to deal with trust me.

I'm sorry, but them seem to be on the down and down to me if they've oversold their stock. If people ordered Winbond from Tiger Direct and got OCZ, there'd be a riot in the forums. All hell would break loose. Say what you want about the Corsair, but it has the same Winbond chips you may or may NOT get from these guys, whenever it's actually in stock (instead of three days).

On a more basic level, given the circumstances and pricing, it's just not that hot of a deal. It's a real pisser too because this vendor is actually on the East Coast for a change.

 

[tbrooks40]

well no one really knows what happened, maybe they made a mistake? do we have to start a riot over it? i don't understand how some of you get so bent shape, i mean you'd think the people making all the noise were the ones who got the wrong stick of memory. its not a freakin murder case people, no need to call the executioner!

 

[tbrooks40]

oh yeah,

on the Corsair i am simply stating MY experience with ONE stick of Corsair memory. so its not a "say what you want" thing its a "facts" thing. when people share their experience to try and bring some substantial findings on an issue lets not just sweep it under the rug as tho i was making a bunch of speculation like many here do. what i said is what happened. hell, i don't get a dime from corsair or winbond so it wouldnt make me a difference either way.

again, whoever it was who got the wrong memory, just call and ask for a refund and they say they will gladly issue a refund... this is a fact also. i know a bunch of places that will give you the run around when you ask for a refund but these guys say they have no problem with it - to me, this is about as good as it gets when it comes to online resellers.

 

[lazarus000]

Originally posted by: RobsTV

Are you sure you do not work for these guys, or are somehow connected with them?

Originally posted by: pspada

Work for who, OCZ? I do know that OCZ memory got a bad rep from the fake OCZ that was circulating for a time.

no offense meant Pspada, but you still haven't answered the question that i can tell.


Are you in anyway associated with OCZ?


also i must of missed it... but i still haven't seen any verification that it's winbond stuff

 

[pspada]

Nope, I have nothing to do with OCZ, nor have I ever used any of their RAM.

 

[m1ke101]

okay just got my RMA stick...this stuff is sh*t. DO NOT BUY THIS MEMORY. I just got my rma stick of pc3500, and guess what, it doesn't even run at 166fsb with my stock multiplier. I even upped the voltage of my tbred up to 1.8v and the mem up to 2.9v, and still unstable. My generic samsung pc2700 could do better than this crap.

What I'm worried about now is I want a refund, but I think they charge a 20% restocking fee...anyone know what I can do to get all my money back? I don't want to deal with this sh*tty ram anymore.

 

[tbrooks40]

mike what settings do you have the memory set to in the bios?

 

[m1ke101]

all normal, and 166fsb, upped vcore to 1.75v and tried upping vdimm to 2.9v as well...still not stable

 

[tbrooks40]

so normal is what on your board? 2.5-3-3-6-2? or 2.5-2-2-5-1 etc.

 

[pspada]

Originally posted by: m1ke101
all normal, and 166fsb, upped vcore to 1.75v and tried upping vdimm to 2.9v as well...still not stable

So, why do you conclude that the memory is the problem. My FSB is running at the normal 133/266, while my memory is running just fine at 400Mhz (the PC3200). Why don't you just try clocking the memory to 433, without oc'ing the FSB? Then you'll only be running the memory at spec, and will eliminate other system components from consideration. If that works (and I suspect it'll run just fine), then you know the memory is ok, and something else on your system is at issue.

 

[tbrooks40]

i have noticed that with these newer boards you have to be careful as when i had my ram running at 166fsb my memory was somehow running at 484mhz. i found out it was the one setting i was forgetting to set to 333 as it was set to 400 and the system wouldn't even post a few times. i was really pissed and was about to sell a stick of corsair that was just fine.

 

[pillage2001]

Originally posted by: pspada

Originally posted by: m1ke101
all normal, and 166fsb, upped vcore to 1.75v and tried upping vdimm to 2.9v as well...still not stable

So, why do you conclude that the memory is the problem. My FSB is running at the normal 133/266, while my memory is running just fine at 400Mhz (the PC3200). Why don't you just try clocking the memory to 433, without oc'ing the FSB? Then you'll only be running the memory at spec, and will eliminate other system components from consideration. If that works (and I suspect it'll run just fine), then you know the memory is ok, and something else on your system is at issue.

If everything works at 166FSB on his old Samsung stick. I don't see why the new stick can't handle it since it's suppose to run at DDR400.