Asian Americans need to wise up and end our blind loyalty to the Democratic Party

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SP33Demon

Lifer
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Bull fucking shit. I haven't met a handful who aren't scared of White Nationalism.
The problem is that you see skin color while I see socioeconomic disparities. Money supersedes your race baiting, just as it did in the 2016 election. A shame that you still don't get it, even after 2016's crushing loss. Let me break it down for you: People who are magnitudes smarter will make magnitudes more, and usually those people will flock to conservative havens which have the best public schools, low crime, and often majority white. This will apply to some liberal communities until it's eaten away by its bordering liberal shitholes where they've usually pushed section 8 out to. It's a money issue, not race.

Hell I should know b/c I live in a conservative, well-off haven and am a minority (yes some asians in my fam) and have zero fear of "White nationalism" and it's all out Trump country here. My neighbors are all white Trump supporters and love us. Hell they invited us to dinner the other night and my baby plays with their grandkids. They aren't as fearful and petty as many Dems. Hell we leave my doors unlocked at night, nobody cares here and the most crime we've had in 5 years were a group of kids stealing shit out sheds for kicks. Everyone is armed and people know it, you'd be a fool to break in any of this neighborhood's houses. We are living the American dream which includes acceptance of different skin colors and nationalities. White Trump supporters in nice neighborhoods aren't going to care if you actually know how to make friends with people. Money begets friendship and will always supersede skin color and race baiting.
 
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Indus

Lifer
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The problem is that you see skin color while I see socioeconomic disparities. Money supersedes your race baiting, just as it did in the 2016 election. A shame that you still don't get it, even after 2016's crushing loss. Let me break it down for you: People who are magnitudes smarter will make magnitudes more, and usually those people will flock to conservative havens which have the best public schools, low crime, and often majority white. This will apply to some liberal communities until it's eaten away by its bordering liberal shitholes where they've usually pushed section 8 out to. It's a money issue, not race.

Hell I should know b/c I live in a conservative, well-off haven and am a minority (yes some asians in my fam) and have zero fear of "White nationalism" and it's all out Trump country here. My neighbors are all white Trump supporters and love us. Hell they invited us to dinner the other night and my baby plays with their grandkids. They aren't as fearful and petty as many Dems. Hell we leave my doors unlocked at night, nobody cares here and the most crime we've had in 5 years were a group of kids stealing shit out sheds for kicks. Everyone is armed and people know it, you'd be a fool to break in any of this neighborhood's houses. We are living the American dream which includes acceptance of different skin colors and nationalities. White Trump supporters in nice neighborhoods aren't going to care if you actually know how to make friends with people. Money begets friendship and will always supersede skin color and race baiting.

LMAO my neighbor got run over by a Trump supporters truck after being called a terrorist. That really taught us Asians not to trust the white nationalist retards. It was in the news.. you can search it. He still lives next to me.

And for every 1 guy who is affluent, there are a 100 who are not who work in mom and pop stores, drive buses or cabs hoping to send their kids to better schools so they can be doctors and nurses.

Maybe you're looking through rose tinted glasses.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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LMAO my neighbor got run over by a Trump supporters truck after being called a terrorist. That really taught us Asians not to trust the white nationalist retards. It was in the news.. you can search it. He still lives next to me.

And for every 1 guy who is affluent, there are a 100 who are not who work in mom and pop stores, drive buses or cabs hoping to send their kids to better schools so they can be doctors and nurses.

Maybe you're looking through rose tinted glasses.
But you're lumping Asians into a huge bag here: China, Malaysia, Phillipines, Japan, India and a slew of other countries that I'm not going to name - many of them came here on merit and above average technical aptitude. Are you disputing that most of the asians who come here on H1Bs are successful? And that their kids are also successful and smart as hell? Because that usually translates to $$$$$$$$$$. For example, we have a Sikh that lives in my neighborhood with the turbans and all but nobody is calling them a terrorist. They are hardworking americans who own a towing company and their kids are going to our community's great schools. Nobody really cares and I'm sure if they invited me to dinner I'd be down and wouldn't care if my kids played with theirs. Almost anyone can get a loan for a towtruck if they save enough, and this guy did just that and expanded his business. Only hard work can get you to that level.

Yeah that sux that your neighbor got run over but like I said it's a money issue. If that Trump supporter had a good job (he may not even have a job which is why he supported Trump in the first place) I doubt he'd even have time to care about skin color. People who aren't working have time to think of the things they hate and people who are not like them get bumped up on the list + finger pointing. The same goes for African Americans who don't work in inner cities - Trump nailed it when he said that if they had decent paying jobs they probably wouldn't act like that. So getting people to work is the most important thing for our country - it gives people purpose. Yeah there are some shitheads who are just violent for the sake of being violent but it's usually people who hate their life and have no purpose and aren't working. They have nothing to lose and probably want to go to prison since everything is provided for them.

I haven't looked at the statistics, but I bet most asians make above the average median income here. If that's true, then they will start to lean conservative because they are all about meritocracy, not extreme socialism and getting shit for nothing. They worked their asses off to get here and as a result, many of them aren't going to be for free handouts and everyone-should-be-equal-economically BS. People who put in more hard work will expect to get more, it's human nature. The Democratic party doesn't espouse this (at least not Progressives) but conservatives do.
 

Phenzyn

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I love Asians lemme jus say.

Also, did it ever occur to you that perhaps Asians apply en masse. Thus the disparity?

Have u ever known an Asian op? Have you ever understood their culture? It's absolutely true that Asians are more culturally critical of their offspring on these terms. Attending college is a writ of passage, it's true that not all cultures feel this way.

And perhaps rightfully so since a degree doesn't mean what it used to mean.
 
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Phenzyn

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You know what else is hilarious now that I've pondered and pontificated this pronouncement?

Apparently Asians are treated TOO well.
They are given TOO many scholarships and grants to attend college from the liberal College community. And somehow this is a reason for Asians to stop supporting the democrats that make these scholarships so abundant.

Lol

Is there an emoticon for falling over DEAD laughing, because I seriously feel like I am about to die.

 
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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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But you're lumping Asians into a huge bag here: China, Malaysia, Phillipines, Japan, India and a slew of other countries that I'm not going to name - many of them came here on merit and above average technical aptitude. Are you disputing that most of the asians who come here on H1Bs are successful? And that their kids are also successful and smart as hell? Because that usually translates to $$$$$$$$$$. For example, we have a Sikh that lives in my neighborhood with the turbans and all but nobody is calling them a terrorist. They are hardworking americans who own a towing company and their kids are going to our community's great schools. Nobody really cares and I'm sure if they invited me to dinner I'd be down and wouldn't care if my kids played with theirs. Almost anyone can get a loan for a towtruck if they save enough, and this guy did just that and expanded his business. Only hard work can get you to that level.

Yeah that sux that your neighbor got run over but like I said it's a money issue. If that Trump supporter had a good job (he may not even have a job which is why he supported Trump in the first place) I doubt he'd even have time to care about skin color. People who aren't working have time to think of the things they hate and people who are not like them get bumped up on the list + finger pointing. The same goes for African Americans who don't work in inner cities - Trump nailed it when he said that if they had decent paying jobs they probably wouldn't act like that. So getting people to work is the most important thing for our country - it gives people purpose. Yeah there are some shitheads who are just violent for the sake of being violent but it's usually people who hate their life and have no purpose and aren't working. They have nothing to lose and probably want to go to prison since everything is provided for them.

I haven't looked at the statistics, but I bet most asians make above the average median income here. If that's true, then they will start to lean conservative because they are all about meritocracy, not extreme socialism and getting shit for nothing. They worked their asses off to get here and as a result, many of them aren't going to be for free handouts and everyone-should-be-equal-economically BS. People who put in more hard work will expect to get more, it's human nature. The Democratic party doesn't espouse this (at least not Progressives) but conservatives do.

LMAO more trump sissies voters are gonna be out of work soon due to tariffs.
 
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SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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You know what else is hilarious now that I've pondered and pontificated this pronouncement?

Apparently Asians are treated TOO well.
They are given TOO many scholarships and grants to attend college from the liberal College community. And somehow this is a reason for Asians to stop supporting the democrats that make these scholarships so abundant.

Lol

Is there an emoticon for falling over DEAD laughing, because I seriously feel like I am about to die.

Aw, you're jealous, how cute. Maybe hit those math books a little harder and you can be as smart as them too. But wait, isn't everyone equal? Isn't IQ just a social construct and make believe at the genetic level? PC Police, arrest this fake Democrat - he isn't adhering to our party's beliefs!

Also to infer that most conservatives don't or shouldn't go to college is incredibly dumb just b/c of your assumption that liberals run them all (hint: they don't).
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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LMAO more trump sissies voters are gonna be out of work soon due to tariffs.
Cool, so I guess you agreed with everything else I wrote.

Last I checked, unemployment was an all-time low across the board regardless of race, gender, or sexual preference. Gonna have to try harder than the tariff card to convince us that we're losing enough jobs to affect the unemployment rate.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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Cool, so I guess you agreed with everything else I wrote.

Last I checked, unemployment was an all-time low across the board regardless of race, gender, or sexual preference. Gonna have to try harder than the tariff card to convince us that we're losing enough jobs to affect the unemployment rate.

That's funny because I think its not at 4% but 42%. People are saying 50%. It might actually be as high as 80%.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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That's funny because I think its not at 4% but 42%. People are saying 50%. It might actually be as high as 80%.
Riiight. We are playing by the same rules as Obama and now you're trying to move the goalposts. How convenient.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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Riiight. We are playing by the same rules as Obama and now you're trying to move the goalposts. How convenient.

That's because your side always turns to dirty tricks, lies, and now Russia to steal wins and then calls it fair.

Some day soon there will be a Reckoning and it wouldn't surprise me if the future was plowed with blood.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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That's because your side always turns to dirty tricks, lies, and now Russia to steal wins and then calls it fair.

Some day soon there will be a Reckoning and it wouldn't surprise me if the future was plowed with blood.
You really just pulled the Russian card. lmao. Bro, stop watching the media it's fcking with your mental state. You're being used as a puppet. The Russia bogeyman is a hoax. Also, speaking of blood, do you even know how to clean a rifle? Serious question.
 

umbrella39

Lifer
Jun 11, 2004
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Egalitarian socialism pimped by the Dems runs anathema to the Asians' belief of meritocracy and hard work that got them to American in the first place. Often they come to this country and are usually successful. As Indus also noted, they are also family-oriented. They are now being discriminated against for being "too smart" by liberal colleges. This screams conservative party for them and the many I know are rejecting the Democrat party for Trump's nationalism, not BS wealth redistribution and egalitarianism.

Cool story bro...
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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Lots of us minorities are mostly disinterested in politics (for the most part it doesn't pay to be involve or keep up). And while the Democrats are far from perfect and do their own share of wrong, you'd be insane to not make note of the explicit racism of the Republican party of the modern age.

Speaking personally, until I hear a public repudiation of this event, you will never, ever see me advocating voting Republican:

NBC News - Trump: Judge in University Lawsuit Is Biased Due to ‘Mexican Heritage’
Donald Trump is doubling down on his attack of the federal judge who’s overseeing the lawsuits against Trump University, saying he can’t be fair in the case because of his heritage.​

To me, that story gets directly to the heart of the matter: Even if you're born in America, even if you've spent years and decades of your life living to the highest ideals of your country and now occupy a judgeship, if you aren't white, you aren't American. You will never be part of the in-group. Associate with a group and don't act surprised when they usher you into a nice internment camp before making plans to ship you off 'home'.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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Lots of us minorities are mostly disinterested in politics (for the most part it doesn't pay to be involve or keep up). And while the Democrats are far from perfect and do their own share of wrong, you'd be insane to not make note of the explicit racism of the Republican party of the modern age.

Speaking personally, until I hear a public repudiation of this event, you will never, ever see me advocating voting Republican:

NBC News - Trump: Judge in University Lawsuit Is Biased Due to ‘Mexican Heritage’
Donald Trump is doubling down on his attack of the federal judge who’s overseeing the lawsuits against Trump University, saying he can’t be fair in the case because of his heritage.​

To me, that story gets directly to the heart of the matter: Even if you're born in America, even if you've spent years and decades of your life living to the highest ideals of your country and now occupy a judgeship, if you aren't white, you aren't American. You will never be part of the in-group. Associate with a group and don't act surprised when they usher you into a nice internment camp before making plans to ship you off 'home'.
You lack a brain if you think someone can't be biased because of their roots and what they did in the past. This judge worked for La Raza, bro. Maybe you don't know who they are, but I do since my family has friends in La Raza. They are an activist group, straight up. I have no problem with Trump calling out the judge's possible bias, if anything it's a warning shot to the judge that he better be on his p's and q's b/c now the spotlight has shifted to his sketchy past.
“[Judge Curiel] is a member of a club or society, very strongly pro-Mexican, which is all fine,” Trump told CBS’s John Dickerson. “But I say he’s got bias.” The club Trump was referring to was La Raza Lawyers; an organization with the stated mission “to promote the interests of the Latino communities throughout the state.”
 

yllus

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You lack a brain if you think someone can't be biased because of their roots and what they did in the past. This judge worked for La Raza, bro. Maybe you don't know who they are, but I do since my family has friends in La Raza. They are an activist group, straight up. I have no problem with Trump calling out the judge's possible bias, if anything it's a warning shot to the judge that he better be on his p's and q's b/c now the spotlight has shifted to his sketchy past.
“[Judge Curiel] is a member of a club or society, very strongly pro-Mexican, which is all fine,” Trump told CBS’s John Dickerson. “But I say he’s got bias.” The club Trump was referring to was La Raza Lawyers; an organization with the stated mission “to promote the interests of the Latino communities throughout the state.”
I know you and other Trump psychos are all for a only-whites-can-judge-whites America, but you'll excuse me and the rest of the gang for disagreeing. Bro.
 

Indus

Lifer
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You lack a brain if you think someone can't be biased because of their roots and what they did in the past. This judge worked for La Raza, bro. Maybe you don't know who they are, but I do since my family has friends in La Raza. They are an activist group, straight up. I have no problem with Trump calling out the judge's possible bias, if anything it's a warning shot to the judge that he better be on his p's and q's b/c now the spotlight has shifted to his sketchy past.
“[Judge Curiel] is a member of a club or society, very strongly pro-Mexican, which is all fine,” Trump told CBS’s John Dickerson. “But I say he’s got bias.” The club Trump was referring to was La Raza Lawyers; an organization with the stated mission “to promote the interests of the Latino communities throughout the state.”

Racist demon gonna be a racist demon.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
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Racist demon gonna be a racist demon.
La Raza is an activist group. It's almost as extreme as having a former-KKK member as a judge presiding over the case of a Mexican. You really aren't qualified to talk about this subject unless you actually have family members affiliated with La Raza like I do. Yes let's talk about race and how La Raza hates white Repubs, which this judge has a verifiable affiliated past history with. You'll conveniently sweep this under the rug and cry racism but deep down you know I'm right.
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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La Raza is an activist group. It's almost as extreme as having a former-KKK member as a judge presiding over the case of a Mexican. You really aren't qualified to talk about this subject unless you actually have family members affiliated with La Raza like I do. Yes let's talk about race and how La Raza hates white Repubs, which this judge has a verifiable affiliated past history with. You'll conveniently sweep this under the rug and cry racism but deep down you know I'm right.

Yet another example of how gullible you are.

From the Washington Post:


The Facts


As The Post and other media outlets have pointed out repeatedly, Curiel is a member of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association, which is a professional organization for Latino lawyers. The group is the San Diego local affiliate of the California La Raza Lawyers Association, whose membership comprises lawyers practicing in California, and is a 501(c)(6) nonprofit trade organization. It has an affiliated 501(c)(3) scholarship fund that awarded 22 scholarships totaling $34,000 in 2014.More on that later.

This group is not the National Council of La Raza, the Hispanic civil rights nonprofitorganization that has pushed for comprehensive immigration reform in Congress with a pathway to citizenship and legalization for undocumented immigrants. It's often referred to as simply "La Raza," especially in the context of the immigration debate.

To recap this simple fact: San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association ≠ National Council of La Raza.


As long as the information comes from a right wing source you’ll swallow anything without a single critical thought.
 
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repoman0

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Yet another example of how gullible you are.

From the Washington Post:


The Facts


As The Post and other media outlets have pointed out repeatedly, Curiel is a member of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association, which is a professional organization for Latino lawyers. The group is the San Diego local affiliate of the California La Raza Lawyers Association, whose membership comprises lawyers practicing in California, and is a 501(c)(6) nonprofit trade organization. It has an affiliated 501(c)(3) scholarship fund that awarded 22 scholarships totaling $34,000 in 2014.More on that later.

This group is not the National Council of La Raza, the Hispanic civil rights nonprofitorganization that has pushed for comprehensive immigration reform in Congress with a pathway to citizenship and legalization for undocumented immigrants. It's often referred to as simply "La Raza," especially in the context of the immigration debate.

To recap this simple fact: San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association ≠ National Council of La Raza.


As long as the information comes from a right wing source you’ll swallow anything without a single critical thought.

It is incredible how little respect right wing news sources have for their readers' intelligence -- apparently, for good reason. Reminds me of the CEO who admitted they advertise on Fox News because their viewers are the most gullible and fucking idiots:

https://dmlnews.com/fox-advertiser-fox-viewers-f-ing-idiots/
 
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