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Deleauvive

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Anybody knows btw some good cheap cooling adhesive ?
I am not familiar with these special tape products , but I noticed "Sekisui #5760" was written on a sticker, on the back of a heatsink I had in my spares.

It's basically double sided thermal tape with good thermal transfer properties, according to the presentation this site makes out of it.

Can't wait to read about your own results!
 

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...Other than the presumably optimal BIOS settings, a rather tiny GPU, and PWM enhanced cooling, there could be a reason why I am getting 300+ FSB when others cannot :
My main HDD is neither an IDE one, neither a SATA one. (it's a Seagate SCSI Ultra 160 one and as such, it bears its own controller).

Aha! I think the Southbridge is the culprit limiting overclocks. When I was on IDE only, I was able to hit 300-305, albeit with an easily overclocked CPU (the lowly E6800 1.86Ghz). By the time I was using my E4500 and then E7600, I had switched to SATA, including an optical drive on one of the channels, so I don't have a clean comparison. But if memory serves, I read somewhere that SATA does limit overclocks more than IDE on these boards, then forgot about it. But not using the Southbridge at all, as in your case, does seem to help.
 

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Good news guys!

Remember my mobo was dead and I couldn't revive it?

Well.....I'm back in business!!! :biggrin:

I'm getting a free 4coredual-sata from a guy and a 4core-vsta for €7,50. For my htpc i think.

Thnx for doing the work on the memory timings guys, I'm gonna try that.

Halfordlaes, Delauvive, Mr Vain and -shaken-not stirred- Double O Seven:

Thnx for your help so far.
Gonna go on with your directions and findings, trying to tune the crap out of those things and....so we go on building the ultimate AGP-rig!

I do think though, some cooling should be added to the VRM's on those boards.

Need to get some good memory. Anybody knows btw some good cheap cooling adhesive?

And about the allocating only 3,3 GB of RAM to the system...
Are you guys sure, that also goes for a 64 bit version-system? Normally asrock mentions this on it's sites but also states that this limitation occurs with 32-bit Os only.

Nice find!
 

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I read somewhere that SATA does limit overclocks more than IDE on these boards, then forgot about it. But not using the Southbridge at all, as in your case, does seem to help.

I use SATA now too... do you find it limits your FSB overclocks now? (how much by?) Just curious...

I see that you also have an e7600... what speed do you typically run it at?
 
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Currently I am at a measly 285 and 11 ratio for a 2% OC. I do this so the mem is running faster than at stock 266x11,5.

Real problem is that my machine is in need of a good cleaning inside; it's been a couple of years now. Once I do it, I should be able to return to 285x11.5 for 3.278GHz.

I am trying 1T with Pipeline-whatever at Auto. Seems OK; haven't done but a short test, since I need the PC for stuff.
 

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As for BSEL mods, I later discovered they are not required on the later pc-treiber BIOSs. Set the FSB to 266, reboot, and from then on, if overclocking in sync mode, PCIe climbs as if the CPU is natively 266.


Hlafordlaes:

Are you 100% sure about this?
And if yes, from which biosses are you sure it works like this:
Applying both to 4coredual vsta and 4coredual-sata2.. since I own both boards!


To all of you:

Which setup should I use for HTPC (xbmc running on windows) en which one for gaming (2nd pc for LAN with friends like WOT a:

- Intel e5400 (dual core on 4coredual -sata2 or vsta) + agp hd3850
- AMD x2 7750 Black edition on MSI motherboard (with 780 chipset... full 4 GB ddr2 usable) has gpu onboard, lousy of course, but it does provide a 16x PCI-e slot, no graphics card yet though)


I googled, but I still like to have your guys opinion.

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Currently I am at a measly 285 and 11 ratio for a 2% OC. I do this so the mem is running faster than at stock 266x11,5.

Real problem is that my machine is in need of a good cleaning inside; it's been a couple of years now. Once I do it, I should be able to return to 285x11.5 for 3.278GHz.

I am trying 1T with Pipeline-whatever at Auto. Seems OK; haven't done but a short test, since I need the PC for stuff.

I cleaned my case (and cooling fans) out last week, and it was pretty dusty!

What do you consider a safe max temp for the e7600 CPU? When I do Intel Burn Test, my CPU (at 3.3Ghz) peaks at around 61C (ambient room air temp is around 22C). I use an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro (rev. 2), which isn't the greatest. I originally used it to cool an e4600 CPU.
 

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Hlafordlaes:

Are you 100% sure about this?
And if yes, from which biosses are you sure it works like this:
Applying both to 4coredual vsta and 4coredual-sata2.. since I own both boards!


To all of you:

Which setup should I use for HTPC (xbmc running on windows) en which one for gaming (2nd pc for LAN with friends like WOT a:

- Intel e5400 (dual core on 4coredual -sata2 or vsta) + agp hd3850
- AMD x2 7750 Black edition on MSI motherboard (with 780 chipset... full 4 GB ddr2 usable) has gpu onboard, lousy of course, but it does provide a 16x PCI-e slot, no graphics card yet though)


I googled, but I still like to have your guys opinion.

As for BSEL, on my VSTA system using pc-treiber 2.39a and an unmodded E4500, once I set it to 266 and rebooted, it acted as the default.

The AMD system for gaming.
 

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What do you consider a safe max temp for the e7600 CPU?
61°C as a max temp is pretty reasonable. I believe IBT pushes the cores to their limits, especially with the stress level set @High. Anything below 66°C should not raise any issue. You might want to refer to this thread about Tj Max values.

As Tj Max for Intel desktop CPUs was not well documented in the first place, it was fixed @ 100°C (minus a few degrees). Beyond that point, they will throttle, or using Core Temp's overheating protection, it can be decided to shut the computer down temporarily. Obviously, the higher the voltage applied to CPU, the greater the risk of reducing its initial lifespan (consequences of incrementing voltage is more directly measurable than increased temps, despite these values being correlated).

Even though going from Dual to Quad Core would probably raise some issues with that particular cooler, have in mind all these 45nm Dual Core chips are pretty unique in the industry in terms of power consumption VS efficiency (with a bonus for E0 revisions). Download Afterburner and try to keep an eye on max GPU temps too, especially when using GPU intensive benchmarks.


As for the better suited system for gaming, go with the AMD, Sparkion. Let us know if you would need some advice for a decent GPU to stick in that starving 16x PCI-E port (don't forget to disable the onboard GPU in the BIOS once you decide to go for it)!
I would tweak the more powerful one for both HTPC and gaming, but that's just me.
Did you use two 2 GB sticks of PC2-8500 by the way ?
 
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7.1 % OC. Of both, I believe the bus increase is the de facto OC measurement compared with CPU speed's.

Just to quibble, but I do believe its default multiplier x default FSB (for the E7600, that's 11.5x266=3.059Ghz) that one takes as the base. This makes (11x285=3.135GHz) a ((3.135-3.059)/3.059=0,02484472049), or roughly a measly 2% OC.

That's what CPU-z and Everest report.
 

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I was referring to the value that matters the most in terms of increased overall efficiency (data transfers speed).
e.q. 10x285 = 2.85GHz in your case would not be considered underclocking, would it ?
At least, the bus OC is worth mentioning next to the "nominal" OC (OCCT does that).

Back to my mild overclocking, the sun is out, it's getting warmer in the room.
Time to :
  • Reduce the FSB from 304 to ... 286
  • Switch DRAMv back to Normal
  • Channel A CLKBUF Skew's still set @ 300 / 300 ps and channel B's still set @ 450 / 450 ps

- DRAM Timings are : 3-4-4-11
( 3-4-4-11-34-2-2-4 )

- Pipeline DRQCTL is enabled

I live in a flat located in an old building, isolation is subpar.
When the sun illuminates the room, even partly, temperature rises quickly.
Bear with me, I just couldn't maintain the former FSB freq. with 30°C in the room (and dry air) while stress-testing.


All of the above results in :

Aquamark
Avg FPS : 61.21
Avg Triangles Per Second : 18427218
Score Render : 11825
Score Simulation : 6346
Aquamark Score : 61213


3Dmark 2001SE
20180 3dmarks

3Dmark '05
4797 3dmarks

AIDA64 memory benchmark @ 286 DRAM freq.
Memory Read : 7596 MB/s
Memory Write : 5981 MB/s
Memory Copy : 5514 MB/s
Latency : 68.9 ns


Passes 2 passes of MemTest86+ (I use the bootable version)
and
2 hours of standard IBT stress-testing (will soon try again with the sun rays hitting my desktop).


@Sparkion
Try setting your 4Core-VSTA PCI-E @ 117 (in two or three steps), if you can.
It's the optimal value, and will provide a basis for 300+ FSB overclocking, apparently.
 
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I could run the above tests with CLKBUF Skew's set to Auto. No lockups or errors occurred.
However, since I obtained slightly lower scores in Benchmarks, I think I'll leave them with custom values.

With the more relaxed FSB, I could further tighten (a tiny) bit my timings.
As you may see, this allows for a slightly better latency.
Part of the compensation with the MadOnion / Futuremark & Aquamark scores comes from a small bump with the GPU core frequency of my 7600 GS.

3 - 4 - 3 - 12
CAS tRCD tRP tRAS

Aquamark
Avg FPS : 61.86
Avg Triangles Per Second : 18621394
Score Render : 11849
Score Simulation : 6470
Aquamark Score : 61858


3Dmark 2001SE
20285 3dmarks

3Dmark '05
4852 3dmarks

AIDA64 memory benchmark with DRAM freq. set @ 286
Memory Read : 7649 MB/s
Memory Write : 5986 MB/s
Memory Copy : 5542 MB/s
Latency : 68.1 ns
 
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As for the better suited system for gaming, go with the AMD, Sparkion. Let us know if you would need some advice for a decent GPU to stick in that starving 16x PCI-E port (don't forget to disable the onboard GPU in the BIOS once you decide to go for it)!
I would tweak the more powerful one for both HTPC and gaming, but that's just me.
Did you use two 2 GB sticks of PC2-8500 by the way ?


I've 2 sticks of 1 GB, OCZ 1200MHZ (cas 5) memory.. yes the fastest DDR2 memory ever built!
However... the memory is very picky! CPUZ say 266/333 runs on 1.8 volt, 566 and XMP seting of 600 (=1200 Mhz effective) runs on 2,1 volt.

Not gonna volt-mod the board, though.
And I had a lot of troubles with my former VSTA-board (ask Hlafordlaes and Mr. Vain.. I was stalking them with this issue :biggrin:....

So even on 266 MHZ... so far stable is 2T and ddram voltage to normal and high.. but high is better with anything else.
If u had the oportunity I would let you fiddle with my OCZ on that VSTA , Deleauvive!



Ehm.. I might going to use the AMD system with the x2 7750 BE with a passive-cooled GPU for HTPC purposes and the occasional gaming. AS soon as I ve got a flatscreen-full HD tv....

I prefer an Intel system for that HTPC, but the 4x PCI-e is a problem in the future, for future GPU cards. And the AGP 3850 makes too much noise.

Yes you read it correct.. I'm back to the full blown old fashion CRT-TV :hmm:..
Although it is the best picture quality CRT TV ever built.. It's still not HD.
Unbelievable though the picture it craps out through a scart cable. It is 'OPTICALLY' DVD++ quality, and I'm very very very picky!

So, I ll use the 4core dual-SATA II for the HTPC (with a GF 6200 passive in the AGP) untill I get a Really good full HD flatscreen.. LED probably or OLED or plasma.. First a new job though!
Then I probaly will switch to the AMD system, becasueof the 16x PCI-e possibillities.

So I got:
a 4coredual VSTA an e4500/e5400 cpu
a 4coredual SATA II an e4500/e5400 cpu
An AMD x2 system with 7750 BE cpu

Graphics card:
ATI 3850, AGP Sapphire 512 MB
(only card with proper UVD: hardware decoding of (HD) video's)
Ati x1950 pro, AGP, MSI
Ati x800 AIW, AGP
GF6200, AGP (256 MB)

No PCI-e Card yet!

Still in dubio with what config to use for what: which cooling is silent and which GPU has proper hardware video decoding x264/blu-ray/etc
Maybe I'm getting a sweet deal on a 7750 1GB, fully passive from Sapphire.

Your opinion on these choices guys?


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Here is another little experiment, memory modules related.
What I did was pull the 2x2 GB DDR2 PC8500 OCZ Reaper modules out of my other computer,
then replace the Transcend's with the OCZ's.
Consecutively, I've got one good news and one bad news.

The good news is that the 4Core supports PC2-8500 DDR2 out of the box.
Of course, it probably won't be able to run them @ 400+ MHz.
Just as PC2-6400, it's safer to make them fall back @ 533 MHz (as if they were PC-5300).
Prior to boot up, I merely took the precaution to switch DRAM voltage to Low.
Timings were : 3-3-3-8 - Command Rate : 1T, just as doubleOseven suggested.
Using AIDA64 memory benchmark, I get an amazingly good latency score : 62.7 ns

The bad news is that this board doesn't seem to handle more than 2 GB of DRAM.
I am not talking about the limitation which prevents the full 4 GB to be used by the system.

What suprised me first were the lower Benchmarks results.
About 2% inferior 3D Mark '01SE scores, despite the additional memory and tightened timings.
It appears there are at least two ways to find out about this :

Using AIDA64
Browse to Motherboard / Memory / Physical Memory

Here are a few excerpts of the hardware report :
Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID 63-220-0000010-00101111-093009-VIA$4CDS2220_4COREDUAL-SATA2 BIOS L2.20 REV:A
Motherboard Name ASRock 4CoreDual-SATA2


Motherboard:
CPU Type DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo E7300, 2733 MHz (9.5 x 288)
Motherboard Name ASRock 4CoreDual-SATA2 (4 PCI, 1 PCI-E x16, 1 AGP, 2 DDR DIMM, 2 DDR2 DIMM, Audio, LAN)
Motherboard Chipset VIA Apollo PT880 Pro/Ultra
System Memory 2048 MB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)*
DIMM1: OCZ Reaper HPC OCZ2RPR10662G 2 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (5-5-5-15 @ 400 MHz) (4-5-5-13 @ 333 MHz) (3-4-4-10 @ 266 MHz)
DIMM3: OCZ Reaper HPC OCZ2RPR10662G 2 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (5-5-5-15 @ 400 MHz) (4-5-5-13 @ 333 MHz) (3-4-4-10 @ 266 MHz)
BIOS Type AMI (09/30/09)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)

[ Memory Modules / DIMM0 ]
Memory Module Properties:
Socket Designation DIMM0
Type SDRAM
Installed Size 2048 MB
Enabled Size 2048 MB

[ Memory Modules / DIMM1 ]
Memory Module Properties:
Socket Designation DIMM1
Type SDRAM
Installed Size 2048 MB
Enabled Size 2048 MB

* Should read 3328 MB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)


or Via msconfig
Start menu / execute / msconfig
Start up (second tab), Advanced Options
Now tick max memory
It should read 512 (512 MB), 1024 (1 GB), 2048 (2 GB) depending on the amount of DRAM you equipped the mobo with.
However, anyone with more than 2 GB installed won't be able to change that value (2048).
Change it to 3328 or 4096, it will reset to 2048 upon the next boot up.

So basically, I wonder if PCTreiber managed to unlock 3 and 3.25 / 4 GB support, if it is indeed a system wide enhancement.

Again, this is completely unrelated to the presence or not of PAE.
On a x86 system, there is no way the "unmanaged memory" (the difference between the physical memory and what 32-bit OSes can handle) can be put to some use. While continuing reading the AIDA64 report :

Physical Address Extension (PAE):
Supported by Operating System Yes
Supported by CPU Yes
Active Yes

PAE is indeed active with the 4Core.
In this case, the 'supports 2 GB maximum' mentioned as a feature in the manual is a limitation of the chipset, which unfortunately cannot be reprogrammed in the BIOS, whether you're running a x86 OS or a x64 one, not a Memory remapping issue.


@Sparkion
Thanks so much for the compliment.
About the OCZ's voltage, you shouldn't worry too much, I run mine @1000 MHz stable, slightly above 2v (@ 2.05v), with the following timings : 5-5-5-13 - CR 2T.
I would suggest to get the Sapphire, and start things off with the AMD system.
If you're worried about the noise, get one of these special foam covered cases. I use a black NZXT one myself.

Also, a flawed GPU cooler (these things aren't very sturdy usually) can be replaced with a VGA cooling kit, equipped with one or two detachable fan(s); The only downside being those devices take up quite some room once attached to the card.
Try to sketch out your future systems on a sheet of paper e.q. on this one, I would put this component, on the other one the DVD-RW and so on.
I made such a sketch a few years ago, here it is
  • DVDBOX is the host name of my main computer, p45 Neo 3 / e8600 based, TOSERVE the host name of the 4Core / e7300 based one
  • 'merci à Paragon' means thanks to Paragon (Paragon software)
  • 9box was the Internet Box my previous ISP was providing me with



Take into account the destination, HTPC needs a decent GPU preferably AMD (the AIW comes to mind), files repository needs the biggest HDDs and a backup solution...
 
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Back to my mild OC again :
I raised the multiplier from 9 to 9.5, which results in a
+2.2% CPU OC' and +7.8% FSB OC'.

Aquamark
Avg FPS : 62.90
Avg Triangles Per Second : 18935654
Score Render : 12230
Score Simulation : 6476
Aquamark Score : 62902


3Dmark 2001SE
20796 3dmarks

3Dmark '03
10666 (666, the number of the beast!) 3dmarks

3Dmark '05
4588 3dmarks

AIDA64 memory benchmark with DRAM freq. set @ 286
Memory Read : 7678 MB/s
Memory Write : 5974 MB/s
Memory Copy : 5469 MB/s
Latency : 67.3 ns


Lightsmark 2008 with full screen, 1280x960 resolution
55 (+1) fps

Using the Nvidia BIOS Modifier, I applied the delta mod to my 7600 GS, as described here.
There's a little mistake with the command line "nvflash –f modified.rom -4 -5 -6" :
No need for the -f parameter to conduct the flashing.
I use rufus to make my USB pen drive bootable.

GPU Core is set @ 466 MHz (445 MHz for the geometric subunit)
GDDR2 is unchanged @ 450 MHz
All this with passive cooling (GPU temperature rises up to 65-68°C under full load) and a busy case!
 
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Using AIDA64
Browse to Motherboard / Memory / Physical Memory
Here are a few excerpts of the hardware report :
* Should read 3328 MB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)

Well it reads 3327MB for me. And if I go in AIDA64 Extreme edition (v. 2.85.2400), into "Motherboard" then "Chipset" it shows: DRAM Slot 1: 2GB .... and... DRAM Slot 2: 1280 MB (which totals 3.280, which is what it should total roughly)

and if I go into the section: "Motherboard" then into "Memory" it shows Physical Memory, Total: 3327 MB.

Before you put in your OCZ memory, did you short out your cmos? Perhaps if you didn't, that might explain why you're getting a memory capacity fail.

fyi, I'm using a 4CoreDual-SATA2, Rev 2 board. And PCTreiber L2.20A Bios.
 

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I am using the exact same board, and the same BIOS revision.

It's quite possible that the Asrock 4core cannot run both DDR2-8500 modules at the same time for some reason. Clear CMOS (or rather load Optimal Defaults) didn't work. I removed the CMOS battery just to make sure the board would reset properly before I try inserting them again. I have planned to do this in a few hours, and will keep you posted.

Meanwhile, I went for benchmarking the better timings of one (1) of these 2 GB OCZ modules
VS
the 2x1 GB Transcend's working in pair.

Aquamark : + 0.85%
3D Mark '01SE : + 2,67 %
3D Mark '05 : - 0,39 %
It's a mixed bag, but the Transcend's take the lead, especially with 3D Mark '01SE.


My initial goal was to weight the advantage of running a pair of performance DDR2 PC-8500 VS running the pair of value PC-6400 I own, not to prevent people from upgrading to 4 GB in general, or to the HyperX modules in particular. Not enough DDR2 modules from various brands, running at various speeds at my disposal to make such statements, sorry.

Thanks for checking the quantity of DRAM with AIDA64 as soon as you could doubleOseven!
 

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After replugging everything, it appears the second DDR2 PC-8500 memory module is not properly taken into account with the 4core.

The 4 (2x2) GB appear in CPU-Z and in system properties, but not in the other fields I mentioned earlier on (most notably, AIDA64 Memory measurement and msconfig's Max Memory). By the way, provided they would work fine in pair, I don't think I would run them with the Command Rate set @ 1T.

So your best bet remains to be using two identical sticks of good old PC-6400.
0.5, 1 or 2 GB modules, value or performance... whatever floats your boat.
Sorry guys about the false alarm : The Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA2 doesn't support properly MY 2 GB memory modules.
 
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I expect it might also have something to do with the ram obviously. I got a pair of 1066 and they won't work while one stick will. I got a pair of both 800 and 600 (prolly 533) and they work fine. Don't know if it matter. Also in some combinations.

Btw like I said 007 thats perfectly normal you got the full 4 gig but some is hardware reserved like on your GPU.

One hell of a fun mobo.

I suppose its the 1066. Just strange one stick does allright.
 
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Thank you nightspydk for getting back to me (re: 4gb & hardware reserved). My pcie video card has 512mb onboard, so yes, that would fit into the equation of the 3.24Gb physical memory that shows up on my system as being recognized (out of the 4Gb installed).

Deleauvive, thanks for sharing your experience, and for your comments (very useful indeed). One of these days when I don't need my computer to do real work, I'll test more (OCCT and IBT, Memtest etc) by trying the RAM at 2T instead of 1T and see if I can o/c the FSB even more. Problem is, I think my e7600 CPU craps out if I o/c too much (large FFT fail in Prime95 after 21 hours), if I try to go FSB more than 290. I know large FFT is typical of Ram issues and/or northbridge problems, but it could also be a lack of vcore for the CPU. As you know, there is no adjustable bios vcore for the CPU (and I don't want to mod anything), so I'm not able to play magic with that.

Cheers all!
 

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Well maybe it doesn't fit perfectly. The thing is if you are running x86 the memory allocated is the memory pool of your ram + vram + actual unit ram of other units. That's not gonna keep you awake at night, but the max limit on an x86 system is right 4 gigs or close and that include the former.

Hope that made sense mate.

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@doubleOseven
you, Hlafordlaes, me, probably others have come to the conclusion that 280 something seems to be the sweet spot for the type of overclocking we're aiming at (safe, no volt mod, no noisy / expensive cooling), while dealing with our PT880Pro equiped board. Feel free to experiment further but, unless you work in a room with strong air conditioning, I don't think there is much headroom left.

I have some expectations concerning the Asrock VSTA Sparkion is about to get running though. Apparently, setting the PCI-E frequency @ 117 MHz would compensate for the lack of CPU overvolting. Hence, it could be a starting point for 300+ FSB OC'.

Also, I may turn some people against me, but I would favor 2 hours of IBT over 24 hours of Prime95 in your case. It's faster at finding errors as pointed out in a link I gave earlier on, Intel Engineers are supposed to use it for their own needs, and the code it crunches is optimized. I don't intend to be starting a debate here, just trying to help you deal with the lack of time without sacrificing too much of the crucial stress-testing overclocking requires, oh and provided you won't be folding too.


If you're interested in reading further about this 4 GB memory limitation with x86 systems, have a look at this document from superspeed.com please. I don't trust their claim as to access what they call "unmanaged by Windows memory" (the difference between the physical memory and what 32-bit OSes can handle) to be valid (they mention it can be turned into or appended to a RAM drive, something of that nature). However, they describe the internals of this limitation in a convincing and concise manner.
 

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Been playing with PipelineDQL (or whatever) and set it to auto, as from recent posts. So far, both CAS 4 and 1T settings (2x G Skill F2-8500CL5-2GB) seem very stable, and Everest gives me some decent mem bench scores:

R: 7811MB/s
W: 5909MB/s
C: 5513MB/s
Latency: 67.1ns


I haven't tried going past FSB 285, since I am doing a lot of work and need stability, but I might goof around with that soon.

Been mining the, ahem, chipset datasheets for TRC, which I haven't found yet. Thought I nabbed the datasheet to the PLL some years back, but I've lost or misplaced it. Love to explore that cryptic reference to it in the BIOS (sorry to be vague, don't recall the setting name in Advanced Mem or the other one, but the help reads RTM866-890.)

When I get around to it, plan to tweak the PCI space with Read & Write Everything.
 
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