Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA2 + ASRock 4CoreDual-VSTA + ASRock 775Dual-VSTA

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Deleauvive

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My suggestions at this point :
  • Use HD Tune Pro latest version
    V5.50 instead of v5.00
  • Use Vuze instead of uTorrent
    uTorrent is prone to memory leak bugs, there are ways to get over these issues, but Vuze is simply more robust.
  • The more background processes, the less accurate your benchmark will run.
    Don't start Firefox, don't download, don't do shit before and during the measurement plz. In fact, close / disable as many programs as possible (antivirus, instant messaging stuff, temperature monitoring tools...), it shouldn't take you long. Then run it, and keep still.
  • Don't hold your breath about obtaining the same level of performance other people get with this HDD : VIA in general, and boards based on the VT880 in particular are the black sheep in the chipset family : PCI-E running at 4x, 5-10% lower quad core performance and so on.

Last time I checked it was underperforming on 12V+ rail.
Nice find! Does it imply you plan to have that PSU replaced any time soon ?
 

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  • The more background processes, the less accurate your benchmark will run.
    Don't start Firefox, don't download, don't do shit before and during the measurement plz. In fact, close / disable as many programs as possible (antivirus, instant messaging stuff, temperature monitoring tools...), it shouldn't take you long. Then run it, and keep still
That's not the point. I use this benchmark just to find my problem, I'm not trying to improve the result, just a real transfer rate (when I move the data from partition to another). And if software like this (Firefox) causes the transfer rate drop so low, it's not normal, is it?


Don't hold your breath about obtaining the same level of performance other people get with this HDD : VIA in general, and boards based on the VT880 in particular are the black sheep in the chipset family : PCI-E running at 4x, 5-10% lower quad core performance and so on.


I realize that. That's why I compared it to the worst test I found.


So, the background software is the problem?


Nice find! Does it imply you plan to have that PSU replaced any time soon ?
Yeah, I had to upgrade other parts, now it's time to change this piece of crap. I'm probably going for Fortron 450W, everything else is too expensive..
 

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just a real transfer rate
There's no such thing as a "real transfer rate". That's why the benchmark specifies an average transfer rate. e.q. transfer rate between partitions will vary accordingly to file size, fragmentation...

So, the background software is the problem?
If you mean wrong readings from HD Tune Pro benchmark, yes.
I am not talking about obtaining the best results for the sake of it, but the most accurate results. I would not advise tinkering during a HDD benchmark. Try to find other ways to assess your hypothetical transfer rate problem.

now it's time to change this piece of crap
THAT failing PSU may be the prominent problem with your rig IMHO.
 

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Hello guys,

I will try to type a request for the guys of Pctreiber. For a bios for the 4coredual-SATAII that will properly detect and boot with 2 x 2GB Ram-dimms.

But it might take a while. I'm being busy with things here at home. Little crisis here and there.

So bare with me please.

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Hello guys,

I will try to type a request for the guys of Pctreiber. For a bios for the 4coredual-SATAII that will properly detect and boot with 2 x 2GB Ram-dimms.

But it might take a while. I'm being busy with things here at home. Little crisis here and there.

So bare with me please.
Thanks! And it would be great if PCTreiber could revised their BIOS with a "Memory remapping" feature, so that more than 3.25GB of memory shows up when you have 4GB of RAM installed
 

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@Sparkion
Meanwhile, I may have a suggestion for you, but there is a risk involved.
Using AFUWIN (4.22, the latest version), it should be possible to program all blocks during BIOS flashing. (flashing from DOS wouldn't erase the book block).
Some French owner of the SATA II claims he managed to use his 2x2 GB of PC2-6400 OCZ Platinum in full (well, within the usual 3.25 limitation) thanks to this *unrecommended* way of flashing.

After browsing and loading PCtreiber's BIOS file, here is how the BIOS flashing should be prepared when using this tool :





Make sure you close all or most programs and disable antivirus.
Last but not least : Don't hold me responsible if you brick the BIOS and cannot recover. Both flashing the BIOS from Windows AND erasing the boot block can lead to serious issues.
 
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I don't recommend this. On first try, do not check boot block. See if it works first. You risk bricking the chip and having to replace it.

And if you do go this route, I'd do this from a bootable USB, and first make sure I can flash normally from there, while making a BIOS backup. Then flash as planned from Windows, leaving boot block unchecked. Now you can recover from the USB if your flashing goes awry. You may need to reprogram the LAN IP after this; number to use is near parallel port, iiirc.
 

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@Sparkion
Meanwhile, I may have a suggestion for you, but there is a risk involved.
Using AFUWIN (4.22, the latest version), it should be possible to program all blocks during BIOS flashing. (flashing from DOS wouldn't erase the book block).
Some French owner of the SATA II claims he managed to use his 2x2 GB of PC2-6400 OCZ Platinum in full (well, within the usual 3.25 limitation) thanks to this *unrecommended* way of flashing.

After browsing and loading PCtreiber's BIOS file, here is how the BIOS flashing should be prepared when using this tool :





Make sure you close all or most programs and disable antivirus.
Last but not least : Don't hold me responsible if you brick the BIOS and cannot recover. Both flashing the BIOS from Windows AND erasing the boot block can lead to serious issues.


Hi Del,

Yes I already found this and flashed with this tool. Only I didn't dare to also flash with the bootblock and NVram enabled.
Bit scared to brick my mobo.

I used it thought to flash to the newest version because for some reason it didn't take from my bootable USB stick in DOS-mode.

Right now, I first need to doa reinstall of windows first to be able to do it.
I was strongely considering 2 weeks ago already to check all the blocks when flashing with AFUwin. (since I use the program anyway, it works flawless btw. in windows)

In the mean time I use the VSTA as my 'main' 2nd PC, for lan. Have the HD3850 AGP in it, plus the e5400 at 3,6 Ghz+ the 4 Gb (3,3 of course) working on the VSTA.
It goes like crazy! Have stock cooling so, only running it at 270 Mhz.

I need to find time and energy to write a letter in proper 'deutsch'. Probably wil not be before this weekend.

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@Sparkion
Could you please append the following to the letter you plan to write in German (in German, right ? Deutsch is another language) :

" In certain cases, BIOS code is so large that it extends into the space reserved for the bootblock code. Can you tell us if this is the case with your modded 4CoreDual-SATA2 BIOS L2.20 REV:a ? What I have in mind is another hypothesis : What if regular flashing didn't ensure all leftovers from the official 2.20 BIOS were wiped out at reboot time ? "

That would allow us to avoid the jump in hyperspace that is the flashing of all blocks including the bootblock, unless absolutely necessary.

More info about the BIOS bootblock and unusual ways of recovery from flashing failure here.
 
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In the process of acquiring an Asrock S775Dual VSTA board for the price of shipping. I still own and use on occasion a 939Dual-SATA2 that I just cannot retire.

After 20+ years of tinkering with computers, that 939Dual is still my fave board of all time. The 775Dual appears to be the Intel version of the 939 board (minus the CPU upgrade slot) and I look forward to getting it running.
 

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A bit off-topic to begin with. First of all, i would like to say hello to everyone on this forum. A lot of my questions got their answer here, without replying and saying thanks. Well, this is it, hello everyone and thank you.

And now, my on-topic question. Was using an older mobo from gigabyte, more than 10 years older, with an athlon 2200+ cpu. I did some researches and found the 4coreduals, the 4coredual-SATA2 model, a lot of good reviews. I was impressed. And i bought it, also bought me a C2D E6600 and a new cooler to go along. Still waiting for the cooler to arrive and decided to change the memory with 2gb of DDR2.
Will also try to update the BIOS and replace one of the 1gb sticks with a 2GB one. Dunno if it will work, but will try, 3GB of ram is enough for me.

So here's what i was thinking now. To sum it all, i will have something like this:

Asrock 4coredual-sata2
core 2 duo e6600
Xigmatec Loki sd963 cooler(hope it's good enough, dunno if will try to OC)
2 x 1GB DDR2-533 Transcend
HDD 60 GB Maxtor - IDE
HDD 150 GB Seagate - IDE (maybe will change them with a 500 GB SATA2)
GPU ATI HD4650 1GB DDR2 Sapphire
Raidmax KY-600ATX PSU

I was thinking of changing the video card, but not sure which one will fit best alongside my other components. And not sure if i will see any real improvement. Was thinking at the (of which i managed to find good deals):
*HD3850 DDR3 256bit 512MB, but only managed to find the pci-e version. Thinking my psu should be able to sustain in.
*GTS 250 DDR3 256bit 512 MB, definitely needs another psu.
*HD4850 DDR3 256bit 1GB, not sure if my psu is enough.

Do you recommend any of these on my "new" system or should i stick with the hd4650??
Or are there other cards that will go along just fine with the rest, without being bottlenecked? Also not sure about the agp vs pci-e @4x concept, are there noticeable differences?

Perhaps my answer can be found in these 28 pages, but i just don't have the patience to read everything. I've heard and read lots of opinions and yet been able to decide.
I apologize for boring you people so much, but thanks in advance. Hope this mobo will rise up to its good reviews
 

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Will also try to update the BIOS
This you should do, especially with the latest PCtreiber BIOS update. It is necessary to do so in order to use the class of GPU you mention anyway.

and replace one of the 1gb sticks with a 2GB one.
This you needn't do IMHO. Replace both sticks with 2 GB modules or keep your Transcend ones. DRAM sticks work best in pairs of similar density (cf. benefits of Dual Channel). Note that only a bunch of 2 GB modules will work in pair with that mobo, even with the modded BIOS (we're currently working on a solution with the PCtreiber experts).

Also not sure about the agp vs pci-e @4x concept, are there noticeable differences?
Well, the important thing is to have sufficient headroom for the (pre-2011 preferably) games you plan to play, at the desired resolution (the higher the resolution, the more ram it should be equipped with).
There was a raging battle between ATI and nVidia by the end of AGP support, neither really wanted to relinquish providing products for their loyal customer base still stuck with AGP. So what you got was a bunch of decent (rather powerful by the time) cards with a PCI-E to AGP bridge chip equipped models.

The HD 4850 is a great card, not so much the HD 3850 (never heard of the 4650 before). These charts should help you decide. I myself prefer a "pure" PCI-E card (without any such bridge), even with the 4x bandwidth limitation. It is debatable, but I don't think the GTS 250 would be worth the trouble VS say a HD 4850.

Tbh, your cooler is a bit naff so be careful, especially if the air flow from your case isn't optimal. Set the corresponding fan at the highest (or near) possible speed if you don't care for the noise. I use a slightly overclocked revision E0, 45 nanometer (45 nm) process engraved e7600 and a Noctua cooler with the exact same mobo. Max temp is about 55°C. I am afraid your 65 nm engraved CPU will run hotter, even at stock speed.
 
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I watched a few chart comparisons, but they only tell the theoretical difference between the cards. Was thinking it's better to ask people who actually tried a specific card with this mobo.
Also found this one for a good price, but except for the DDR3 and faster memory speed, not much difference from mine. The HIS 4670 IceQ version is 5-6 times the price of this one, so it's not worth it.
That HD4850 is still my no.1 choice, so far.
Only talking here about cards with an acceptable ratio of price/value, cards found on ebay.
But i guess i'll have to try and see how it goes with my current gpu, and if i'm satisfied with the results, maybe i won't change it yet.


Although not sure why on my current system i only have AGP 4x, when the card is AGP8x compatible and my mobo supports AGP8x. I'm pretty sure when i bought this GPU, it was working at 8X, but for some time now it's only listed as a AGP4X. Could be a card issue or a mobo issue, because lately i'm also having some random restarts of the pc and after analising the mobo, i found 2 swollen capacitors.

Thank you.
 

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@Zaoan,

I had a 4850 (pci-e). It should work with your bios.

The fastest AGP card is HD3850 though. It s very fast en it will not bottleneck your system. Going for the HD4850 might eb a bit of an overkill for your hardware specs.
At this moment I Have a asrock 4coredual SATA II and VSTA, with an AGP HD3850 in it. FOr the specs of that machine, does it really kills. I got a C2D 5400 @ 3.6 GHZ+ 2x2GB running, and it still cannot get the HD3850 to its knees.

It s the most balanced setup for that hardware. Going highger with your video card, is a bit of a waste. Your CPU might be the bottleneck in that case.
 

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i'm also having some random restarts of the pc and after analising the mobo, i found 2 swollen capacitors.
Are you sure this particular Asrock motherboard hasn't been tampered with before ?
If you got it for the price of shipping or so, chances are the previous owner unplugged it from his system for a reason (repeated unsafe overclocking attempts, or even a failed hardware mod with a conductive pencil). Good luck should you decide to send it back then going hunting for another Dual-SATA2 at a bargain.

I was advising the HD 4850 PCI-E card so that it could favorably be reused in another computer should you decide to upgrade. If you don't care for that aspect, then go for the HD 3850 (it would work with newer components since it's also PCI-E, but would really bottleneck things in a brand new computer). Sparkion is right though, the HD 4850 certainly won't "roar" to its full potential with the VIA chipset the Asrock bears. Also, I am guessing the HD 3850 overclocking potential is higher.

The penalty hit with the 4x PCI-E slot is about 5% with middle end cards, evenmoreso with "high end" ones.
 

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Are you sure this particular Asrock motherboard hasn't been tampered with before ?

No, i was referring to my current mobo, my gigabyte one, where i'm having these random restarts. For the asrock one to test it, i'm waiting for my cooler, should arrive today.
I was only asking about the hd4650 8x working at only 4x, not sure if it's the gpu's fault. But will test it on the asrock as soon as i can, with taking a decision afterwards in wheter to keep the hd4650 or change it.
The thing is i'm not really much into gaming, i mean new games and full hd gameplay. Only bought this mobo so i can add a cpu that has SSE2, for some apps and games requiring this instruction.
Also hope to be able to play CS:Go, think this could be the most demanding game i will try.
Thanks.



edit: I am also using a creative audigy pci sound card and want to use it on the asrock, but i cannot find the AUX. I am now using the AUX in connector on the gigabyte mobo, should i use the other one for the asrock? I'm stuck here.
 
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zaoan

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I will continue posting here, i hope i'm not bothering anyone. I apologize if i do.

So i've installed the 4coredual-sata2. It even booted . I'm using it, also flashed the bios, it reports as being 2.20 rev:a, i guess this is it.
Okay, for the moment i'm using 2 sticks of DDR, one of 1GB and the other 512MB. Bios only sees 1GB, windows only sees 1GB, but cpu-z and hwinfo report 1,5GB. I guess i have to trust BIOS.
But even with only 1gb of ram my system runs soooo much faster then my previous mobo with that 2200+ athlon. I can just feel it when i click things.

My DDR2 2X 1GB dual channel sticks arrive only next week, so until then i'm stuck with using these.

The temperatures are shown in the picture, i guess they're ok.



As for the Creative PCI sound card, it was the CD1 4pin connector on the mobo, works like a charm.
Will have to reinstall the video card driver and when my 2gb of ram arrive, planning to switch xp with windows 7.
 

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it was the CD1 4pin connector on the mobo, works like a charm.
Isn't that connector for the analog audio input from the CD or DVD-ROM drive, in the first place ?

As for the temps, it would be wise to check them under full load, with OCCT or similar stress-testing software (once you get your Xigmatec Loki of course). We were doing these kind of tests while overclocking a few posts back, should you be interested.
Don't forget to apply a thin layer of fresh (quality) thermal paste between the CPU die and the back of the cooler. Then, with the DDR2 sticks in place, and some minor adjustments in the BIOS, you should be good to go.

Nice work!
 

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I'm already using the Xigmatec cooler, otherwise i wouldn't have been able to get the pc going. Now i've also tried OCCT for 2-3 mins on each cpu test and does not exceed 43-44 degrees.
When you say minor bios adjustments, what exactly do you mean? I would like to get the CPU to run a little bit higher, but don't want to do something stupid, as i've never done any overclocking, except for my HD4650 from catalyst control center.
 

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BIG PROBLEM!
I dont know why i wanted to clear cmos.
I have turned off the computer, removed the cable from the psu, waited 30 sec and shorted the clear CMOS 2pin and also switched the 2 memory modules between them. At restart i got a checksum BAD error, but managed to enter BIOS. There i did some changes, i don't know why, i've selected single channel for memory, AGP 8x for the card and switched memory from 333mhz to 400mhz, save and exit bios. At restart again the checksum error with 2 choices, F2 for setup and F1 to load default settings and continue. I selected F1, it got frozen so i did a restat from the button and now nothing, just the black screen. No bios options, no video card powering the screen. It just stays like that.
I've tried to clear the CMOS again, also removed the battery and nothing, it's the same.
Is the mobo dead, have i done some undoable damage?


EDIT: That was quite a scare i got there. I removed the 512MB ram from the slot and it booted. Didn't think at them first because it wasn't making any sound, my last mobo was screaming when something was wrong with the memories. Went into bios, everything to default, shutdown again. Added the 512MB again to see if i get the same error, but it recognized it. So now i'm using 1.5GB DDR. Damn it, i thought my mobo has gone bananas.
Not sure i'll try any OC now lol.
 
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Now i've also tried OCCT for 2-3 mins on each cpu test and does not exceed 43-44 degrees.
When you play a game, you usually don't do so merely for 2 minutes, do you ? Similarly, stress testing should be conducted for at least 80 minutes, 120 minutes preferably. What's more I consider OCCT an appetizer, the down-and-dirty test would be Intel Burn Test. There wouldn't be much interest in cranking up FSB and CPU max frequencies if the system fails the above mentioned test, or freezes during a synthetic benchmark (downloading MadOnion / Futuremark programs can prove useful too), would it ?

I would like to get the CPU to run a little bit higher.
Lucky you! I posted about my overclocking experiment with the exact same board and the exact same Transcend DDR2 modules a few weeks ago (I am using a middle-end nVidia PCI-E card, a nice looking 7600 GS from Gigabyte)
First things first, I am in favor of using manual (e.q. predefined) settings for most of the chipset settings. Hope you're comfortable with this.

Is it OK with you to begin the actual overclocking process right after you plug in the DDR2 sticks ?
Right now, the best you could do is :
  • Raise the CPU multiplier (Ratio Actual Value) to x9 if you haven't done so already
  • Set PCIE Clock at Sync with CPU
  • Enable Enhanced Halt State

Again, 45 nm Core 2 Duo's are better overclockers but anyway, due to the insufficiently fit Northbridge, we're not aiming for the moon.

Here are the basics of overclocking, aka the epic battle between Performance, Noise, Heat and Stability :
  • Decreasing the multiplier by a point or half a point
  • Using fixed values for AGP/PCI Clock (so that other devices won't be exposed to overheating)
  • Loosening DRAM timings to a typical 5-5-5-15 (not necessary in this case since we're not dealing with 400+ DRAM freq. / 1333+ rated FSB)
  • Increasing the rated FSB through CPU Frequency
  • Adjusting a few key voltages for the circuitry to better deal with the increased workload

Asus and other famous manufacturers all came up with various overclocking friendly mechanisms (skewing...) with their middle-end and high-end mobos, but let's keep it simple for the moment.

Now the good news (so to speak) with the Asrock's is that said voltage values cannot be fine tuned, making it easier for people not totally at ease to go with the "mild" overclocking of their CPU (FSB increased by a mere 5-12%). An informal rule is that a higher FSB value is better than overall CPU frequency (eq. if I had an e6600, I would rather use 8.5x286 than 9x272).
What we have at our disposal is simply :
AGP Voltage Low / Normal / High
Interestingly enough, setting AGP Voltage to High amounts to cranking up Northbridge voltage slightly
and
DRAM Voltage Low / Normal / High
I suggest setting DRAM voltage at High with the CAS set @ 3.

Not everybody agrees on using manual settings to this extend, but most people will on deactivating the following :
  • Spread Spectrum
  • PCIE Downstream Pipeline
  • PCIE VC1 Request Queue
(do not bother with the last two if you're using an AGP card, obviously)


according to these screenshots :










My system runs the DDR2 memory with tighter timings
3 .. / ..4. / ..3. / ..9
CAS tRCD tRP tRAS
full timings : 3 - 3 - 4 - 9 - 34 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 4
Command Rate : 2T
CPU ratio : 9 instead of 9.5 (in your case 8.5 or 8)
and CPU freq. cranked up to 297 (use a few intermediate values, this should be done step by step)
which translates in better FSB OC' (+11.8%), inferior CPU OC' (+0.4%)

Just set the timings with
4-4-4-12-34
Command Rate : 2T
Dual Channel : Enabled
and the rest to auto, if you're in a hurry


Still in the BIOS, since most of the settings were default ones as you imply, chances PCI Latency Timer (from PCIPnP Configuration) is set to 32, switch it to 64 please. It should make data transfers easier on your system (without any significant performance hit), especially since you're using an antiquated PCI soundcard.
 
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zaoan

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Thank you for your answers, Deleauvive, much appreciated.

I will surely try what you wrote here, as soon as my DDR2 modules arrive.
Again, i'm not looking to increase the power of the system not even by 50%, it can't be done either, but merely 10-20% and i should be fine.

One more thing, i think i bought a wrong memory module, besides the 2X 1gb ones. Only paid 8 euros for it, shipment included. The seller gave me the code written on the module: VD2U800B2G6-B DDR2 800(6) 2GX16 U-DIMM (some V-DATA). And after that, i went searching google for that u-dimm thing and found some answers that it can't be used on mobos with dimm slots. Only machines using AMD chips support them, so i guess they're the wrong kind.
Can i still try them or do i risk to damage the mobo?

Thanks.
 

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Sounds like a regular 2 GB PC2-6400 DDR2 stick to me.
It won't snap into the modules slot if it's not compatible anyway.
At worst, you will have to clear CMOS and reset all of your BIOS settings like you did after your "big" problem.

As for the safety rule, it is quite simple :
Just make sure you don't use DDR1 and DDR2 sticks at the same time.
 
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Me again, still waiting for those DDR2 sticks to arrive. In the meantime, still searching for gpu's to replace my hd4650. And as you said, the 4850 seems like a good replacement and will probably not be very bottlenecked by my other specs.
Found this model on ebay, but not sure if it's the right card, i mean the radiator is on the wrong side of the card, according to the original model listed on sapphire website and many other photos i could find.
This guy says it's the 4850 DDR3 pci-e model, as you can see on the box, for the price of 25 euros. Hmm, strange...


 

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Me again, still waiting for those DDR2 sticks to arrive. In the meantime, still searching for gpu's to replace my hd4650. And as you said, the 4850 seems like a good replacement and will probably not be very bottlenecked by my other specs.
Found this model on ebay, but not sure if it's the right card, i mean the radiator is on the wrong side of the card, according to the original model listed on sapphire website and many other photos i could find.
This guy says it's the 4850 DDR3 pci-e model, as you can see on the box, for the price of 25 euros. Hmm, strange...




hi Zaoan,

I had the same videocard (hd 4850 by Sapphire) and I got after 2 years artifacts and stripes. try to 'bake ' it but didn't succesfully repaired it. (allthough now i look closely, I think i Might 've had the radiator on the other side too)

This is probably a fluke, bad luck,a s I always have. The card is probably fine.




Ok people,

I've emailed the Pctreiber guys about the BIOS for a revision of the 4coredual SATA II, the only way i could find an adress was through the contact link at the bottom of the site.

Still no answer. I got a dark brown suspicion I might not hear from them at all.

Fingers crossed. And i can always try again.
 
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