Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA2

[Mr Vain]

Originally posted by: fritzfield1234
How about the e6600?

E6600 already runs a 1066Bus speed so the BSEL mod is of no value for this CPU.

 

[enDings]

Originally posted by: Mr Vain
You will probably need to do mods to go higher from here on.

- Hello Mr Vain, thaks for ur answer ^^!!!! I don't understand what means "do mods" u can explain it? Some tutorials or something?


- Thanks again

 

[Mr Vain]

Originally posted by: enDings

Originally posted by: Mr Vain
You will probably need to do mods to go higher from here on.

- Hello Mr Vain, thaks for ur answer ^^!!!! I don't understand what means "do mods" u can explain it? Some tutorials or something?


- Thanks again

Read thru this tread as it is very good for modding this motherboard.

http://forums.vr-zone.com/show...3127&highlight=Mr+Vain

:thumbsup:

 

[enDings]

Originally posted by: Mr Vain


Read thru this tread as it is very good for modding this motherboard.

http://forums.vr-zone.com/show...3127&highlight=Mr+Vain

:thumbsup:

- Only i can mod with touching de Micro? not bios? If i ut Vram on high? T_T

I dont wanna touch the micro T_T cry

 

[Mr Vain]

Originally posted by: enDings

Originally posted by: Mr Vain


Read thru this tread as it is very good for modding this motherboard.

http://forums.vr-zone.com/show...3127&highlight=Mr+Vain

:thumbsup:

- Only i can mod with touching de Micro? not bios? If i ut Vram on high? T_T

I dont wanna touch the micro T_T cry

These are Hard Mods as no full option hacked bios exists that I know of.

 

[enDings]

Thx a lot Mr Vain, i think i will stay on 293 FSB ^^

 

[Mr Vain]

Wow Dude get's 359FSB with Clock Generator and pencil mods.

http://www13.plala.or.jp/setfsb/

Quote post 322
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...d.php?t=117017&page=13



Fixed Link

 

[brokencase]

Hello,

New to the forum. I just want to clarify the "underclock issue" when running quad cores on this board.

The ASRock website indicates the fsb <may> be reduced 5% when running a quad core. Indeed out of the box with a quad installed it will default with the 5% underclock.

Some posters have experiened this and have indicated that the board won't boot if they try to set the fsb to 266.

I just want to say that I just put a system together with a Q6600 and this board and I have no problem running it at the rated speed with a 266fsb.

All I did was set the fsb to manual and selected 266.

So why am I so lucky? I can only speculate, but it may be that you need to run good quality memory DDR2 (in dual channel mode) to avoid the 5% underclock.

I think those who ran into the 5% problem were under the impression that they could get away with older DDR 400 memory. In any case I don't think it's such a bad compromise to be able to run a Q6600 with DDR 400 memory at <only> a 5% overclock.

Here's my setup:

Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA
Quadcore Q6600 ACLR
WD Caviar 250mb SATA
2 gig OZC "Special Ops" 667 DDR2 4-4-4-12 timings
Some old Nvdia AGP card. (soon to replace with an ATI All-in-Wonder AGP)

I have'nt tried to overclock at this point. But right now I'm a happy camper.

 

[NoRest4wkd]

Just joined the forum and hope someone can help: Will the Intel E6750 Core 2 Duo processor work on the Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA2 motherboard? I know the processor has a 1333 FSB and the motherboard only supports up to 1066, but wondering if the processor will work, even if at a lower speed. I was thinking I might be able to overclock the board to make it run closer to 1333 FSB - is that possible?

I'm new to this and would appreciate any help you can provide. My reason for asking is that the E6750 looks like it's selling for a pretty good price compared to the 1066 FSB processors. I already have this motherboard and an AGP video card (Radeon X1950 w/512MB), and looking to get the best processor possible for under $200.

Thanks!!

 

[enDings]

Originally posted by: Mr Vain
Wow Dude get's 359FSB with Clock Generator and pencil mods.

http://www13.plala.or.jp/setfsb/

Quote post 322
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...7017&page=13&highlight

I wanna that!! cry!!

The SetFSB how it works? I download it, only for see it, and i put Clock Generation = VSTA and marks FSB 435 :S

 

[Silakka80]

To Norest:

I`m running with e6750 and it works underclocked.
now fsb is 305 X 8 = 2440 mhz
so if you buy that cpu i recommed that you buy better mobo also.
this mobo is full of SHIT!!! don`t buy it !!
i`m runned now with assrock 1 mont and will buy new
inno3d , evga , xfx 680i
or some asus p5k3 deluxe
help me to deside witch is better??

 

[Lozzo]

Originally posted by: Silakka80
To Norest:

I`m running with e6750 and it works underclocked.
now fsb is 305 X 8 = 2440 mhz
so if you buy that cpu i recommed that you buy better mobo also.
this mobo is full of SHIT!!! don`t buy it !!
i`m runned now with assrock 1 mont and will buy new
inno3d , evga , xfx 680i
or some asus p5k3 deluxe
help me to deside witch is better??

The E6750 is a 1333Mhz FSB CPU, and this board is only certified for 1066FSB, so obviously it will not run a 1333Mhz CPU at its rated speed anyway.



Regarding the setFSB utility. There is a thread on this board somewhere relating to this util and the Asrock boards elsewhere. Anyway, upon my ASrock 4CoreDual-VSTA, SetFSB only reads my board frequencies properly if I set the clockgen to the RTM866-485 as opposed to the RTM866-890 as suggested.

For example, at the moment it reads my current FSB/DDR/PCI-E/PCI as 290/580/118.8/33.3 Mhz respectively.

As an aside, as you can tell from above, setFSB *does* show the PCI/PCI-E clock as being locable/adjustable independently of the FSB as any changes I've made in the BIOS to see if it does reflect BIOS settings (trying an odd PCI freq, or an odd PCI-E freq) have been shown by setFSB.


Anyway, using SetFSB I've had my E2160 up at a FSB of 320 stable so far, and this without any volt/pencil mods, standard cooling and DDR2/667 RAM set as 533Mhz with 5-5-5-15 timings. However, things looked like they were getting a bit toasty on my standard cooling, so I backed down to my usual BIOS settings of 290Mhz. I've yet to have the time to try tweaking further up, the 320 was just a shot in the dark, rather than raising in steady increments. I did try a quick shot at 333 but it just froze up on me.

 

[Mr Vain]

Originally posted by: Lozzo

Originally posted by: Silakka80
To Norest:

I`m running with e6750 and it works underclocked.
now fsb is 305 X 8 = 2440 mhz
so if you buy that cpu i recommed that you buy better mobo also.
this mobo is full of SHIT!!! don`t buy it !!
i`m runned now with assrock 1 mont and will buy new
inno3d , evga , xfx 680i
or some asus p5k3 deluxe
help me to deside witch is better??

The E6750 is a 1333Mhz FSB CPU, and this board is only certified for 1066FSB, so obviously it will not run a 1333Mhz CPU at its rated speed anyway.



Regarding the setFSB utility. There is a thread on this board somewhere relating to this util and the Asrock boards elsewhere. Anyway, upon my ASrock 4CoreDual-VSTA, SetFSB only reads my board frequencies properly if I set the clockgen to the RTM866-485 as opposed to the RTM866-890 as suggested.

For example, at the moment it reads my current FSB/DDR/PCI-E/PCI as 290/580/118.8/33.3 Mhz respectively.

As an aside, as you can tell from above, setFSB *does* show the PCI/PCI-E clock as being locable/adjustable independently of the FSB as any changes I've made in the BIOS to see if it does reflect BIOS settings (trying an odd PCI freq, or an odd PCI-E freq) have been shown by setFSB.


Anyway, using SetFSB I've had my E2160 up at a FSB of 320 stable so far, and this without any volt/pencil mods, standard cooling and DDR2/667 RAM set as 533Mhz with 5-5-5-15 timings. However, things looked like they were getting a bit toasty on my standard cooling, so I backed down to my usual BIOS settings of 290Mhz. I've yet to have the time to try tweaking further up, the 320 was just a shot in the dark, rather than raising in steady increments. I did try a quick shot at 333 but it just froze up on me.

What was your previous best FSB before using the SetFSB utility?

 

[enDings]

i use setFSB on RTM866-890 i can get 300 FSB but when i restart the PC, window not loaded, and i need to reset PC. If i changed to 300 FSB in windows, appears to work good :S but don't restart T_T

 

[Lozzo]

Mr Vain : Previous best was just over 300FSB I think, that was with the 1.4 BIOS that came with the board. However, things were a bit flakey but to be fair that was before I discovered the joys of fine-tuning the BIOS settings (everything was on Auto, just FSB and CPU Async set) for stability. That 300+ was just bumping the FSB up and seeing what happened.

Since then, I'm running the 2.00B bios (from pc-treiber) with Speedstep/C1E and so on enabled and have not tried playing with higher FSBs from there.

I've been getting the odd stability issue ever since I put my 3rd HDD in, but I believe that to be maybe a PSU issue, as I've never had any hassles before. 3 HDDS, 7600 AGP video card (takes power from another molex connector..) , various USB devices and DVD writer, all hanging off a no-name 400W (yeh, right... 300 if I'm lucky..) generic PSU. Main thing I notice, is that the 12V line on my supply is now living at 11.6 at idle, dropping to 11.4 under load. This being measured by a meter connected to a spare molex connector.



enDings : I did notice one thing with using setFSB, and that is I have my memory settings at 5-5-5-15 in BIOS (Auto gives me 4-4-4-12@533Mhz) , and CPU-Z reports them as such. When I tried my 320FSB, CPU-Z then reported my memory timings as being back to 4-4-4-12, which is the SPD default setting for my memory@533Mhz settings. Maybe setFSB is (inadvertantly) fiddling with the memory timings and this could be the cause of a failing restart, with a reset putting all settings/timings back to scratch.

 

[NoRest4wkd]

Thanks Silakka80,

Unfortunately I already have the motherboard, but only paid about $50 for it.

I also have the E750 and was hoping I could use it on this board until I save up enough to buy a new MB (with 1333 FSB) and PCI-E video card in a month or two. My current system is an older P4 3.06 GHz with RDRAM and 4X AGP (Radeon X1950 512MB card), so even moving to an underclocked E6750 would still be a major improvement for me!

 

[bables]

Hello All, new to the forum but have been messing around with this wacky mobo for a week and have some tidbits to share.

E4400
Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA2
2G OCZ PC4000 EB Platinum
Radeon x800
CoolerMaster 600W PSU

I actually started out with a 4CoreDual-VSTA but a screw got stuck under the motherboard after I was screwing around with a better cooler and zap... no more mobo.

So I get this thing and the first thing I noticed is that in the BIOS under PCIE Clock, the only manual number you can set is 100, I was hoping for that magic 117 or 119 I'd read about but no beans. Otherwise it's just auto or sync with CPU.

Just like everyone else was saying, if I tried to overclock it past 240FSB it would not post and then come back way underclocked to like 1.86 or something horrible like that. It would stay underclocked until I figured out that if you set the CPU Frequency back to Auto, allow it to post and beep, then reset, you can try the manual settings again with no underclock.

After lots of tweaking the bios out I got it to post at 2.81Ghz. Then finally did the vagp mod, cpu vcore to 1.45 and BSEL Mod and I can get it to 2.96Ghz--but that's it. The really funky thing is if I use a higher manual frequency, like 300 or 305 or 320, it will just stay put at 2.96. Won't go up any higher. Anyone run into this?

BSEL mod didn't seem to work, still posts auto at 200FSB--but after I did it is when I was able to break out above 2.8Ghz.

Also, I can't get setfsb to work at all on this board. It just gives me errors about bad plls when choosing the correct via chipset.

Another, why is it that XP loads way slower after you overclock? I have to watch a blinking cursor for like 25 seconds before the loading screen comes on and that takes longer than before I overclocked.

Orthos always fails in under 10 seconds the first time I try it, but the second time I run it it goes for 8 hours. Also weird.

Thanks.

 

[brokencase]

I also get the erroneous pll id error when I run the
updated setfsb utility on my Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA2.

I've tried some of the other PLL's and they did not work either.

I'm guessing that the later boards like the SATA have different PLL's

Update, I have been able to overclock the Q6600 on the SATA through the bios.
I am running BIOS rev 1.50. I am up to 275 right now. I need to setup a torture test before I attempt to go further. Like a couple of instances of SuperPi or Prime95 running for a few hours.

 

[enDings]

Originally posted by: brokencase
I also get the erroneous pll id error when I run the
updated setfsb utility on my Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA2.

I've tried some of the other PLL's and they did not work either.

I'm guessing that the later boards like the SATA have different PLL's

Update, I have been able to overclock the Q6600 on the SATA through the bios.
I am running BIOS rev 1.50. I am up to 275 right now. I need to setup a torture test before I attempt to go further. Like a couple of instances of SuperPi or Prime95 running for a few hours.

I used RTM866-485 and works for mi on SATA2 (with E6420@2500Mhz 310FSB) but i can't reboot with that FSB, only on windows i put that FSB and works fine.

 

[bables]

enDings, are you running setfsb with all of its files unzipped in 1 directory? I have a SATA2 and when I try to use RTM866-485 it says pll error.

 

[Lozzo]

Bables : Sounds like your BIOS/CMOS settings are a bit screwy.

Reset the CMOS by the jumpers on board, keep everything standard, flash BIOS to latest version (maybe best to do it the good old fashioned DOS way, rather than the windows BIOS update, considering the random flakiness you're having.) ,reset CMOS again and try again. At least you'll be back to a known setting/config then.

enDings : Nice going. Does using the 866-485 read your frequency properly as opposed to the 866-890 clockgen? Or is that just me.


Looks like some of those SATA2s might be using a different PLL. Time to get opening cases and searching folks!

 

[enDings]

Yes Lozzo, using 890 FSB show 435 O_O

 

[bables]

Originally posted by: Lozzo
Bables : Sounds like your BIOS/CMOS settings are a bit screwy.

Reset the CMOS by the jumpers on board, keep everything standard, flash BIOS to latest version (maybe best to do it the good old fashioned DOS way, rather than the windows BIOS update, considering the random flakiness you're having.) ,reset CMOS again and try again. At least you'll be back to a known setting/config then.

Man, just resolved some disasters there. I cleared the cmos, rebooted at stock and then suddenly winxp wouldn't start, was getting "ntldr is missing" instead. So then I kept getting this error until I overclocked to 2.4ghz, and presto winxp starts. So then in winxp I reflashed the bios to 1.60.. loaded optimal defaults, restarted and once again "ntldr is missing". So then I reboot at 2.4ghz, reflash bios in dos, same error, and now I can't overclock passed 2.66ghz. So fix the error with a special cd thing I downloaded, but now 2.7 ghz and no post. So I fudge a few settings on the bios and I'm back to where I started with 2.95ghz and nothing more, even if I set the frequency to 310. Like I said, a wacky board. I think I'm stuck here.

 

[bables]

Woo hoo! Solved the 2.95ghz problem! It was a bad BSEL mod. When I wiped it off with acetone and redid it suddenly I can get passed 3Ghz. I totally covered the two pins in conductive ink this time and presto.

Farfle was right, the BSEL mod makes this board relax and stop underclocking. I got the thing to frickin post at 3.42, but it froze. At 3.31 windows crashes, so I'm down there at 3.21 like everyone else on stock cooling. I've got the 1.45 volt mod going and vagp is 1.96. Seems like if I just get some better cooling and up the volts on my cpu I might be able to max out at 3.40.. I'm shocked. I thought my board was junk.

Thanks to everyone on here with all the useful experiences and advice!

 

[bables]

Here are my bios settings, I've got 2g OCZ pc4000 EB Platinum, Radeon x800 AGP

Bios 1.60
CPU Configuration
CPU Host Frequency -- Manual
Actual Frequency -- 320
PCIE Clock ? 100 MHz
AGP/PCI Clock ? 66/33
Spread Spectrum ? Auto
Boot Failure Guard ? Enabled
Ratio Actual Value ? 10
Max CPUID Value Limit ? Disabled
No-Execute Memory Protection ? Disabled
Chipset Settings
DRAM Frequency ? 200MHz (DDR400)
Flexibility Option ? Enabled
DRAM CAS# Latency ? 3
DRAM Bank Interleave ? Auto
Precharge to Active(Trp) ? 2T
Active to Precharge(Tras) ? 8T
Active to CMD(Trcd) ? 3T
REF to ACT/REF to REF(Trfc) ? 16T
ACT(0) to ACT(1) (Trrd) ? 3T
Read to Precharge (Trtp) ? 3T
Write to Read CMD (Twtr) ? 2T
Write Recovery Time (Twr) ? 3T
DRAM BUS Selection ? Dual Channel
DRAM Command Rate ? 2T Command
Advanced Memory Configuration ? all Auto
Advanced Host Configuration
Pipeline DRQCTL ? Enabled
GTL Control ? Auto
DRAM Voltage ? Normal
AGP Voltage ? Normal
Primary Graphics Adapter ? AGP
AGP Mode ? 8x
AGP Fast Write ? Enabled
AGP Aperture Size ? 128MB
AGP Staggered Delay ? Auto
AGP GADSTB Output Delay ? Auto
AGP 3.0 Calibration ? Auto
DBI Output for AGP Trans. ? Auto
DBI Output for FRAME Trans. ? Auto
V-Link Speed ? Fast
V-Link Auto-Disconnect ? Enabled
PCI Delay Transaction ? Enabled
IDE Drive Strength ? Ultra High
PCIE Downstream Pipeline ? Disabled
Onboard LAN ? Enabled
Onboard HD Audio ? Auto
Front Panel ? Auto
CD-In ? Enabled
Echo TPR Disable ? Auto
ACPI Settings
All disabled or Power off
PCI/PnP Settings
PCI Latency Timer ? 32
PCI IDE BusMaster ? Enabled
Super IO Chipset
All Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Controller ? Enabled
USB 2.0 Support ? Enabled
Legacy USB Support ? Disabled