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brokencase

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The fixed AGP/PCI bus setting appears to be bogus.

I just set my fsb to 250 and AGP/PCI to fixed an Sandra now reports 62mhz.

This is why I can't overclock any higher. My video card is failing because the AGP bus is going too high.

That sucks. Sure would be nice if ASRock could fix that in a fourthcomming BIOS update.
I won't hold my breath.
 

cpmee

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Originally posted by: Spicedaddy
Sandra's probably wrong, I'm stable at 240FSB so if the buses weren't fixed I'd be running 80/40 AGP/PCI, which I don't think would run too well...

My E2180 isn't stable @ 2.5GHz with stock vcore (wasn't either at 2.66GHz with BSEL mod, so I removed it). So 240FSB it is, with DDR333 ram divider (5/6 of 240 = 200MHz).

I should be getting 2GB of DDR2 soon, we'll see if that changes anything. Might try giving it more juice in this board, but I'll probably wait until I get an Abit IP35...

Antec Truepower 550W (older model, but has 24A on the 12V rail... should be enough??)


Is that Antec the adjustable rail 550w model ? If not, how low are your 3.3v and 12v rails showing ?


Yeah, thats what I meant about Sandra, she may just be doing a simple division of the fsb to get the agp and pci bus speeds. IIRC, there is a hardware card that can show true agp and pci bus speeds, but its pricey to just answer a simple question.
 

brokencase

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Originally posted by: cpmee
Yeah, thats what I meant about Sandra, she may just be doing a simple division of the fsb to get the agp and pci bus speeds. IIRC, there is a hardware card that can show true agp and pci bus speeds, but its pricey to just answer a simple question.

Oh OK. Although I don't know why they can't just time a tranfer across the interface to get at least an approximate value.


 

cpmee

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Originally posted by: brokencase
Originally posted by: cpmee
Yeah, thats what I meant about Sandra, she may just be doing a simple division of the fsb to get the agp and pci bus speeds. IIRC, there is a hardware card that can show true agp and pci bus speeds, but its pricey to just answer a simple question.

Oh OK. Although I don't know why they can't just time a tranfer across the interface to get at least an approximate value.


Yeah, not quite sure why someone hasnt written a program like that. The only thing I can think of is that it would only be approximate and very variable as the the busses are busy with other transfers which would affect the outcome.


Other news on this board is that the spdif header works for digital coaxial output. I made a custom cable using a coax cable and a 2 pin plug. Works fine on my HTS system. So the gameport and the digital output are fine, just not as good as the Soundstorm audio on my old NF7-S.

 

brokencase

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I found an AGP benchmark util over at BenchmarkHQ called "Final Reality".

It doesn't work very well. Not very independent of the fsb clock.
I ran the AGP test at the default 16mb setting with the various settings below:
250 fsb fixed 33/66 FR Score 704
277 fsb fixed 33/66 FR Score 765
277 fsb sync cpu FR Score 770
277 fsb auto FR Score 770

There is the slight difference between the fixed and sync at 277 so from this we can presume that the AGP lock setting is working.

Maybe a larger texture setting would make it less fsb clk dependent.

Note that the auto setting is the same as sync to cpu.
 

turbodrum

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Ok i have read all of your replys conserning this mobo.My problem with this mobo has to do something with ram,well im prety sure of it.:| . I recently bought this mobo because i thought it would be nice upgrade from my old system(which is bytheway realy old) and since i recently also bought 7950gt on AGP,this mobo was good deal,or so i thought.

My config is:Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA2
Intel Pentium Dual core E2180
2x 1Gb Patriot PC2-6400,800Mhz ram
650wat LG Psu.
XFX 7950gt on AGP.

About the problem.I couldnt install fresh copy of windows with this ram because it said that some file could not be copied from cd,so i inserted 1 gb of ddr1 ram,and Windows installed like charm,then i tryed out memtest86 and it found errors on both type of ram(400mhz/800mhz)i know that this mobo only suports 667 mhz ram,but the older ram didnt show any errors on my older mobo,when i ran memtest86.Under Windows there are some errors for example,F.E.A.R. doesnt wants to install,while with 400mhz rams it does.This is so confusing to me,so im not sure whether this is mobo or ram issue.
 

Peav

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Originally posted by: turbodrum
Ok i have read all of your replys conserning this mobo.My problem with this mobo has to do something with ram,well im prety sure of it.:| . I recently bought this mobo because i thought it would be nice upgrade from my old system(which is bytheway realy old) and since i recently also bought 7950gt on AGP,this mobo was good deal,or so i thought.

My config is:Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA2
Intel Pentium Dual core E2180
2x 1Gb Patriot PC2-6400,800Mhz ram
650wat LG Psu.
XFX 7950gt on AGP.

About the problem.I couldnt install fresh copy of windows with this ram because it said that some file could not be copied from cd,so i inserted 1 gb of ddr1 ram,and Windows installed like charm,then i tryed out memtest86 and it found errors on both type of ram(400mhz/800mhz)i know that this mobo only suports 667 mhz ram,but the older ram didnt show any errors on my older mobo,when i ran memtest86.Under Windows there are some errors for example,F.E.A.R. doesnt wants to install,while with 400mhz rams it does.This is so confusing to me,so im not sure whether this is mobo or ram issue.

Get the board RMA'd. Sounds like its knackered.
 

cpmee

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Originally posted by: turbodrum
Ok i have read all of your replys conserning this mobo.My problem with this mobo has to do something with ram,well im prety sure of it.:| . I recently bought this mobo because i thought it would be nice upgrade from my old system(which is bytheway realy old) and since i recently also bought 7950gt on AGP,this mobo was good deal,or so i thought.

My config is:Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA2
Intel Pentium Dual core E2180
2x 1Gb Patriot PC2-6400,800Mhz ram
650wat LG Psu.
XFX 7950gt on AGP.

About the problem.I couldnt install fresh copy of windows with this ram because it said that some file could not be copied from cd,so i inserted 1 gb of ddr1 ram,and Windows installed like charm,then i tryed out memtest86 and it found errors on both type of ram(400mhz/800mhz)i know that this mobo only suports 667 mhz ram,but the older ram didnt show any errors on my older mobo,when i ran memtest86.Under Windows there are some errors for example,F.E.A.R. doesnt wants to install,while with 400mhz rams it does.This is so confusing to me,so im not sure whether this is mobo or ram issue.

It could also be a psu issue too. A google search didnt turn up a 650 watt LG supply. Is that the correct name or is it an off off brand ? It may have worked fine on the old system which drew cpu voltage from the 5 volt rail. But newer mobos draw cpu power from the 12 volt rail and dimm juice from the 3.3 volt rail, and bearly touch the 5 volt rail. A low 3.3 volt rail will cause the dimm to fail in a couple of the memtest86 tests. Post the voltages showing in bios pc health.

 

cpmee

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Originally posted by: brokencase
I found an AGP benchmark util over at BenchmarkHQ called "Final Reality".

It doesn't work very well. Not very independent of the fsb clock.
I ran the AGP test at the default 16mb setting with the various settings below:
250 fsb fixed 33/66 FR Score 704
277 fsb fixed 33/66 FR Score 765
277 fsb sync cpu FR Score 770
277 fsb auto FR Score 770

There is the slight difference between the fixed and sync at 277 so from this we can presume that the AGP lock setting is working.

Maybe a larger texture setting would make it less fsb clk dependent.

Note that the auto setting is the same as sync to cpu.



Hmmm, I dont think we can draw any conclusions from that. The difference is .65%, well within the 1-2% benchmarking normal margin of error. Good find though. :thumbsup:

If we ask Asrock, of course they would say it is locked. :laugh:

 

Tantalum

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Hello folks. I've been reading this thread with interest. I saw this board for sale at a good price, so I decided to buy it, since it would let me keep using some of my old legacy hardware. I was going to go the Athlon 64 route and buy a used Dual Sata 2 socket 939 board with an AM2 adapter, but I figured Core 2 Duo was the way of the future, so I decided to go this route instead, which is my first Intel build. I was going to go four-core, but the locked multiplier issue, and the low-ish cpu frequency setting on this board convinced me to go with the higher multiplier E4500 instead. That was a good idea, since I got the MB, ram and CPU for less than what the quad core cpu would have run me!

I have upgraded from an ABIT NF7 running an XP2500+ mobile @ 2500 MHz, albeit a bit on the warm side. Suffice it to say, the running temperatures of this E4500 was a revelation after the 40C idle temp of my old AMD. From my screenshot, you can see what I have accomplished so far. I have been able to boot into Windows above 3 GHz, but not with any usable stability. I also experience the missing RAM issue at higher cpu frequency settings. I have flashed to the 1.10 BIOS available from that German site. I don't notice much different except an IDE Strength option of Ultra High. I tried to enable the quiet fan, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. It may be the racket from my old Maxtor drive is drowning it out though. I figure I will try the BSEL mod to see if it gets me anything above the 260 MHz I am currently running at for cpu frequency. Seems a shame to let any memory performance lie fallow. Wish me luck.

http://i31.photobucket.com/alb...sultsbeforeBSELMod.jpg
 

cpmee

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Originally posted by: Tantalum
to go with the higher multiplier E4500 instead. That was a good idea, since I got the MB, ram and CPU for less than what the quad core cpu would have run me!

I have upgraded from an ABIT NF7 running an XP2500+ mobile @ 2500 MHz, albeit a bit on the warm side. Suffice it to say, the running temperatures of this E4500 was a revelation after the 40C idle temp of my old AMD. From my screenshot, you can see what I have accomplished so far. I have been able to boot into Windows above 3 GHz, but not with any usable stability. I also experience the missing RAM issue at higher cpu frequency settings. I have flashed to the 1.10 BIOS available from that German site. I don't notice much different except an IDE Strength option of Ultra High. I tried to enable the quiet fan, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. It may be the racket from my old Maxtor drive is drowning it out though. I figure I will try the BSEL mod to see if it gets me anything above the 260 MHz I am currently running at for cpu frequency. Seems a shame to let any memory performance lie fallow. Wish me luck.


Yep, you made the right decision to go with a higher multiplier. I also upgraded to this from a NF-S and 2600+ mobile and was amazed how cool it runs on the stock hsf. The biggest difference you will find will be with Video and Divx encoding work. Its not just twice as fast, but close to three times as fast. You should also notice about a 15% increase in 3Dmark benchmarks at the same speed. (65% increase in quake4 with the dual core patch) The board has a digital spdif, but you'll have to make a cable, unlike the NF7-S which also had optical output. I do miss the Soundstorm audio which was great, but the Intel HD audio on this board isnt bad either.

Just like with the nforce2 boards, this board runs the best in a 1:1 ratio. Which in your case will mean running the ddr667 at ddr533. But that also means you may be able to lower the cas timing.
 

papounet

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After reading about the limitations of the board, I nonetheless went ahead and choose a e4500 with a x11 multiplier.

4coredual-sata2
e4500 + stock cooler
2*512 Kingston Value DDR 400 (i am glad to offload them because they caused me all sorts of pain with a7n8x)
Sapphire X1950GT 256Mo AGP
Neovo 19''LCD 1280*1024
SAMSUNG HDD 320GB 16M P80SD P120S T1333S
Samsung CD/DVD R/W

I started by changing the Bios to 1.60A
I did the pencil mod: vagp and vddr (bought a new digital voltmeter for it)
Changed the FSB jumper

So far so good

I then lost several hours trying to boot at normal speed, boot at overclock speed, get over cold boot/ warm boot problem...
I connected in parallel 2 PSU (using a paperclip to power up the second one), this beats over-inflated marketing specs of most PSU sold

OK time to get serious
BSEL mod with defogger repair paint (had to do several times to get good connection according to Voltmeter)
Cpu Vcore: 1.55V (CPU is 1,325V model, this mod requires 1 connection only)

Put everything back together
Put Be-quiet 500W PSU (average efficency, but rather silent and capable of serving more power than advertised with a reasonable voltage drop)

Clear CMOS
load optimal settings
* CPU: manual: 266
* Flexibility = disabled
* PCIE in sync with CPU ( stabler at higher FSB, see later tests)
* AGP lock 33
* Memory speed : DDR-400
* CAS: 3 (despite spd, would default to 2.5 on auto as if reading spd 166)
* Refresh: 8 (despite spd, would default to 7 on auto as if reading spd 166)
* vRAM = High despite pencil mod because I do not know if vDDR is realy for both DDR and DDRII)
* vAGP= normal because of pencil mod
* V-link = FAST
* V-link Auto Disconnect = Enable
* Ide-Drive Strenght = High
* PCI Delay Transaction = Enable
* PCIE Downstream Pipeline = Disable
* Pipeline DRQCTL = Disable (do not know the impact)

BINGO:
system is ortho-stable for 8hours at 2933 Mhz : 11*266 with DDR 200Mhz running 4/3
Tools used: speedfan/cpuid/ortho/superpi
Temp are a bit high 55°C
Voltage to the CPU is reported 1,5V idle, 1,44 under load (vdrop is a feature desired by Intel, I understand the need of it), Voltmeter confirms undervolt
(beware 12V, 5V, and 3,3V reported in BIOS have little relation with actual values provided by PSU as checked by voltmeter either on the PSU lines or on the MB mosfets)
superpi to 1M =21 sec (out of the top of my head)

Possible to use setFSB to check system stable at 11*280 with DDR 210 running 4/3
(pcie in sync with CPU means 119,2 Mhz, much more stable than pcie-lock at 100Mhz)

But attempts to use 280 and higher in BIOS causes 3 issues:
- warm restart hangs the system (need to power dow/power up)
- DDR timing are relaxed (do not remember if it shows still 4/3 or if it shows 5/8) but something is definitely happening
-> superpi to 1M are >26 sec
possible to use setFSB to check system almost stable to 11*300
but superpi times are still awful

I love the Mhz race, but the overall performance is foremost.
In need of a better tool, I use superpi

in summary,
I choose the board because I had a x1950 AGP
I choose the CPU because I needed a high multiplier to overcome of the FSB limitation of the board and because I knew of the BSEL possibility
I had not imagined that I would HAVE to do the BSEL mod , but this works rather beautifully


Things to do:
- redo vcore mod to reduce it
- check vAGP and vDDR
- replace stock cooler by spare zalman 7000al-cu
- put fan on NB heatsink
- put heatsink on SB
- add 12cm silent fan
- replace stock cooler on x1950GT by zalman and overclock it (already tested to go higher than PRO)
- play with 2,5-3-3-7-2T instad of 3-3-3-8-2T
- validate mem bandwidth with the program memtest from the "Ultimate Boot CD"
- play with WPCREDIT
- play with Pipeline DRQCTL

I was that close to RMA the board
Afterall, after spending some hours on that board, I have managed to build an astounding gaming machine for my teenage kids.

My next rig is the the higher challenge (q6600/8800gt/4*1Mb DDR2-6400 watercooled)
 

Tantalum

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Well, I got the 266 FSB ok at boot. Booting @ 2.9GHz. Temperatures have climbed a fair bit, about 10C at idle. Not stable at all running Orthos. Temperatures go terrifyingly high (70C at failure). I don't think my power supply is up to the demand, I'm seeing only 11.3V on the 12V positive and negative. Looks like it might be time to upgrade that too.

I have a Gigabyte 4 heatpipe cooler I might throw on. I don't know how much it would improve cooling. Heatsinks never seem to live up to their reviews.
 

turbodrum

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Originally posted by: cpmee
Originally posted by: turbodrum
Ok i have read all of your replys conserning this mobo.My problem with this mobo has to do something with ram,well im prety sure of it.:| . I recently bought this mobo because i thought it would be nice upgrade from my old system(which is bytheway realy old) and since i recently also bought 7950gt on AGP,this mobo was good deal,or so i thought.

My config is:Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA2
Intel Pentium Dual core E2180
2x 1Gb Patriot PC2-6400,800Mhz ram
650wat LG Psu.
XFX 7950gt on AGP.

About the problem.I couldnt install fresh copy of windows with this ram because it said that some file could not be copied from cd,so i inserted 1 gb of ddr1 ram,and Windows installed like charm,then i tryed out memtest86 and it found errors on both type of ram(400mhz/800mhz)i know that this mobo only suports 667 mhz ram,but the older ram didnt show any errors on my older mobo,when i ran memtest86.Under Windows there are some errors for example,F.E.A.R. doesnt wants to install,while with 400mhz rams it does.This is so confusing to me,so im not sure whether this is mobo or ram issue.

It could also be a psu issue too. A google search didnt turn up a 650 watt LG supply. Is that the correct name or is it an off off brand ? It may have worked fine on the old system which drew cpu voltage from the 5 volt rail. But newer mobos draw cpu power from the 12 volt rail and dimm juice from the 3.3 volt rail, and bearly touch the 5 volt rail. A low 3.3 volt rail will cause the dimm to fail in a couple of the memtest86 tests. Post the voltages showing in bios pc health.

Yes im sorry its a LC POWER 560 wat psu
http://www.lc-power.com/ its a taurus series
 

cpmee

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Originally posted by: turbodrum
Originally posted by: cpmee
Originally posted by: turbodrum
Ok i have read all of your replys conserning this mobo.My problem with this mobo has to do something with ram,well im prety sure of it.:| . I recently bought this mobo because i thought it would be nice upgrade from my old system(which is bytheway realy old) and since i recently also bought 7950gt on AGP,this mobo was good deal,or so i thought.

My config is:Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA2
Intel Pentium Dual core E2180
2x 1Gb Patriot PC2-6400,800Mhz ram
650wat LG Psu.
XFX 7950gt on AGP.

About the problem.I couldnt install fresh copy of windows with this ram because it said that some file could not be copied from cd,so i inserted 1 gb of ddr1 ram,and Windows installed like charm,then i tryed out memtest86 and it found errors on both type of ram(400mhz/800mhz)i know that this mobo only suports 667 mhz ram,but the older ram didnt show any errors on my older mobo,when i ran memtest86.Under Windows there are some errors for example,F.E.A.R. doesnt wants to install,while with 400mhz rams it does.This is so confusing to me,so im not sure whether this is mobo or ram issue.

It could also be a psu issue too. A google search didnt turn up a 650 watt LG supply. Is that the correct name or is it an off off brand ? It may have worked fine on the old system which drew cpu voltage from the 5 volt rail. But newer mobos draw cpu power from the 12 volt rail and dimm juice from the 3.3 volt rail, and bearly touch the 5 volt rail. A low 3.3 volt rail will cause the dimm to fail in a couple of the memtest86 tests. Post the voltages showing in bios pc health.

Yes im sorry its a LC POWER 560 wat psu
http://www.lc-power.com/ its a taurus series


Its only got 14a on one 12v rail and 15a on the other 12v rail, which is very very low for a 560watt psu. For example, the antec 500watt unit has 19a on both 12v rails. I would borrow another psu and try it.
 

cpmee

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Originally posted by: Tantalum
I don't think my power supply is up to the demand, I'm seeing only 11.3V on the 12V positive and negative. Looks like it might be time to upgrade that too.

Meter the voltage with a VOM. The 12v reading in bios is off pretty far. On my system, the bios reads 11.80v while the accurate meter is 12.20v. The other voltages showing in bios are pretty close though.

That said, and if it scales like mine, you should have a meter reading on the 12v rail of about 11.70v, slightly low.
 

cpmee

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Originally posted by: papounet
1)I started by changing the Bios to 1.60A
I did the pencil mod: vagp and vddr (bought a new digital voltmeter for it)



2)(beware 12V, 5V, and 3,3V reported in BIOS have little relation with actual values provided by PSU as checked by voltmeter either on the PSU lines or on the MB mosfets)



3)I love the Mhz race, but the overall performance is foremost.

1) Any particular reason for the vagp and vddr mods ? Were they low even after upping the values in bios ?

2) Yep, the 12v readings are way off. The other voltages seemed fairly close though.

3) For performance, a 1:1 memory ratio is best. Sell the ddr and get some ddr2. It like $25 a gig at newegg.
 

Microsystem

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My System Voltage also:
+12V:11.370
+3.3V:3.296
+5V:4.946

12V is too low is this due to POWER or MOBO?
I am using a week power (500W max) but have no stability problem at FBS 231. I make a condition of high voltage usage( copy form 2 drive and floppy+ full cpu usage using orthos+ high fan speeds +work Tvtuner+3d games+ ....) no prolem occure.
I think this is duo to MOBO and not POWER, and is not an important problem
 

papounet

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Originally posted by: cpmee
Originally posted by: papounet
1)I started by changing the Bios to 1.60A
I did the pencil mod: vagp and vddr (bought a new digital voltmeter for it)



2)(beware 12V, 5V, and 3,3V reported in BIOS have little relation with actual values provided by PSU as checked by voltmeter either on the PSU lines or on the MB mosfets)



3)I love the Mhz race, but the overall performance is foremost.

1) Any particular reason for the vagp and vddr mods ? Were they low even after upping the values in bios ?

2) Yep, the 12v readings are way off. The other voltages seemed fairly close though.

3) For performance, a 1:1 memory ratio is best. Sell the ddr and get some ddr2. It like $25 a gig at newegg.


1/ had the same resistors and the same measured values as the guys reporting the improvments after having done the pencil mod.
then I measured AGP with bios high, was way too high for my liking but the board and graphics card worked for several hours at that level,
I measured AGP with bios normal and the pencil, found it is higher than the reported for Bios high with no pencil, good enough for me

2) yes it is the 12V in the bios that is not to be trusted

3/ I just received 4 *1Mb of OCZ Enhanced Latency Platinum XTC Edition Revision 2 DD2-6400. I had planned on using this in my other machine, but I may end up putting 2 sticks in this 4coredual just to get 2Mb.
This machine at almost 3Ghz is plenty fast enough (I will recheck superpi numbers), but 1 or 2 games could benefit from more memory.

Are they any numbers comparing DDR400 4/3 with DD2-533 1/1 on this board ?

(because I am not sure of the actual penalty for async operation cf. http://www.anandtech.com/memor...owdoc.aspx?i=2867&p=3) and its table http://images.anandtech.com/re...2-800/performance.html
 

xfezz

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Hi, I just bought the 4CoreDual-SATA2 board and I have a few questions. What utility do you guys recommend for viewing voltages? Mines reading quite low with AIDA32 and im not sure if its something I should worry about. Also I would like to do a modest oc. Maybe running my E4500 @ 1066 fsb. So that should be just under 3ghz right? Well I cant find anywhere in the bios on where to set the FSB ratio on the ram to 1:1?

+5v - 5.05
+12v - 11.19 << worried about that
-12v - 0.39
-5v - 1.69


E4500 @ stock and stock cooling
2gb kingston DDR2 667
160gig IDE HD
120gig IDE HD
IDE DVD-ROM
IDE DVD-Burner
Creative Audigy Gamer sound card
Sapphire x1950pro AGP
Muskin HP-550 Enhanced Power Supply (550w)
 

turbodrum

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Originally posted by: cpmee
Originally posted by: turbodrum
Originally posted by: cpmee
Originally posted by: turbodrum
Ok i have read all of your replys conserning this mobo.My problem with this mobo has to do something with ram,well im prety sure of it.:| . I recently bought this mobo because i thought it would be nice upgrade from my old system(which is bytheway realy old) and since i recently also bought 7950gt on AGP,this mobo was good deal,or so i thought.

My config is:Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA2
Intel Pentium Dual core E2180
2x 1Gb Patriot PC2-6400,800Mhz ram
650wat LG Psu.
XFX 7950gt on AGP.

About the problem.I couldnt install fresh copy of windows with this ram because it said that some file could not be copied from cd,so i inserted 1 gb of ddr1 ram,and Windows installed like charm,then i tryed out memtest86 and it found errors on both type of ram(400mhz/800mhz)i know that this mobo only suports 667 mhz ram,but the older ram didnt show any errors on my older mobo,when i ran memtest86.Under Windows there are some errors for example,F.E.A.R. doesnt wants to install,while with 400mhz rams it does.This is so confusing to me,so im not sure whether this is mobo or ram issue.

It could also be a psu issue too. A google search didnt turn up a 650 watt LG supply. Is that the correct name or is it an off off brand ? It may have worked fine on the old system which drew cpu voltage from the 5 volt rail. But newer mobos draw cpu power from the 12 volt rail and dimm juice from the 3.3 volt rail, and bearly touch the 5 volt rail. A low 3.3 volt rail will cause the dimm to fail in a couple of the memtest86 tests. Post the voltages showing in bios pc health.

Yes im sorry its a LC POWER 560 wat psu
http://www.lc-power.com/ its a taurus series


Its only got 14a on one 12v rail and 15a on the other 12v rail, which is very very low for a 560watt psu. For example, the antec 500watt unit has 19a on both 12v rails. I would borrow another psu and try it.

My readings in Bios H/W health
Vcore :1.322
+3.00 :3.370
+5 :5.148
+12 :12.000
 

Blast PE

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Originally posted by: cpmee

Its only got 14a on one 12v rail and 15a on the other 12v rail, which is very very low for a 560watt psu. For example, the antec 500watt unit has 19a on both 12v rails. I would borrow another psu and try it.

You are joking right? So an antec 500watt psu has 456watts of 12v and 44watts left for 5 and 3.3v?

14A (168Watt) on the 4pin connector for the CPU is more then enough for a dualcore E2180. A 7950gt power consumption is about 83 watts (nvidia spec) so max poweruse on 12v is 7A.
That PSU is overkill for that system.
 

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Originally posted by: Blast PE
Originally posted by: cpmee

Its only got 14a on one 12v rail and 15a on the other 12v rail, which is very very low for a 560watt psu. For example, the antec 500watt unit has 19a on both 12v rails. I would borrow another psu and try it.

You are joking right? So an antec 500watt psu has 456watts of 12v and 44watts left for 5 and 3.3v?

14A (168Watt) on the 4pin connector for the CPU is more then enough for a dualcore E2180. A 7950gt power consumption is about 83 watts (nvidia spec) so max poweruse on 12v is 7A.
That PSU is overkill for that system.


Nope, not joking, thats what Antec lists on their normal 2.0 model. Their "Earthwatts" model only lists 17a on each of the 12v rails. (Earthwatts, what a name. It sounds like it should be buried. :laugh

Yeah, the E2180 only pulls 65watts at stock settings, which goes up dramatically when you overclock. Add 40 or so watts for the mobo, 15 each for the dimms, 15-25 each for any other pci cards, add the opticals and HDs and the amount adds up quickly. Then add another 50% for the surge startup power. If all that is being pulled from the 14a 12v rail, it may become unstable.

And most important to remember : THERE ARE NO PSU LABELING POLICE, AND PRINTING LABELS IS CHEAP. :laugh A lot of the label info on off brand supplies are just plain lies. In fact, they are rarely certified by the agencies listed on the label.

In the case of memtest86, a lot of the fails on test number 5 and ?? are from psu problems.


 
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