Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA2

[cpmee]

Originally posted by: Tokse
I wouldn't call ASUS 7900GT a top card, but this test shows that even for that card PCI 4x has some negative effects for some games (especially doom) and some 3dmark-tests.

http://www.ocworkbench.com/200...ck/775dual-vsta/b5.htm

I found this comment on Xtreview:
"The difference between PCI-E 4x and PCI-E 16x depend on the used card. for example there is no large deference between (pci-e 4x and 16x) if u have a 7600 gt card .but for a 8800 gtx the deference is pretty clear"

So I thought that maybe different video cards work the graphics in different ways and
that maybe there's a difference between ATI and Nvidia. Anyone has an opinion on that, does ATI and Nvidia take advantage of PCI Express 16x to the same extent?
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My memory is 1GB Corsair XMS pc3200 DDR400 , 2-2-2-5. What I wrote about setting CL might have been a bit confusing. First I set CL to 2, than I loosened it to 2,5 and at last 3. So I think we agree there. I have set the other timings to [auto]. Maybe I should
try to insert the other three timings there (2-2-5) instead and remove [flexibility]?

The more timing info entered instead of Auto the better. Auto settings are usually safe and slow.

Not bad, thats only 12% less on the ASUS 7900GT TOP card at 1600 x 1200. Sometimes differences between driver versions are that big.

 

[brokencase]

Originally posted by: Peav

Seems its VTT again that has gone. Prolly stuck 5V through my cpu Mosfets near the ATX Power get really hot.
...
Anyone else had similar issues running q6600 chips ?

Peav

No, In fact as soon as I saw your post I pulled the cover off my case and did a "touchy feely" on the two mosfets near the ATX connector and the others along the top edge of the board and none of them feel hot.

 

[brokencase]

Originally posted by: Alex0915
Broken, I think youre absolutely correct about the ati drivers! For me, 8.1 froze my screen right upon boot up. 7.12 is much better, but about 1/10 boot ups I get a totally blank screen (but monitor says it still is getting the signal!) It happens on both my monitors on both dvi ports, so Im thinking its an ati driver issue. Have you guys tried some of the other ati drivers like the omega or the ngo ones? Those are supposed to be the best ati gfx drivers out there; you can find them on guru3d.com

What video card/os do you use?

With some help, I finally found the pcie setting, its on the second page under advanced/chipset config...thats why I hadnt seen it at first! Is there any other pcie setting to change or just the one?

Yea, I think it's that "SMARTGART" feature of the ATI driver that goes and trys to figure out the best AGP settings that causes the boot problems.

I am running an old All-In-Wonder 9000. I have gone through several "Catalyst" driver upgrades and finally I hit one rev where the TV recording quality went way down hill. I then reverted back one version and have stayed at that point ever since.

That revision is:
Driver Packaging Version 8.14-050512m-023864C-ATI
CATALYST? Version 05.6
Provider ATI Technologies Inc.
2D Driver Version 6.14.10.6542
Direct3D Version 6.14.10.0316
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.5147
CATALYST? Control Center Version 1.2.1958.42112
AIW/VIVO WDM Driver Version 6.14.10.6246
REMOTE WONDER II Driver Version 2.0.0.0

I have used this card under Linux and it worked well, but I never got the TV functions to work under linux.

Can't help you with the pcie question.

 

[brokencase]

Originally posted by: cpmee

Yes, run memtest86+ for many hours. I think your problem may be the 1T timing. From what Ive experienced and read, this board doesnt like 1T with ddr2. I wasnt orthos or memtest stable at 1T.

Concur, I cannot run 1T with my DDR2 either.

 

[jimmor]

Originally posted by: brokencase

Originally posted by: cpmee

Yes, run memtest86+ for many hours. I think your problem may be the 1T timing. From what Ive experienced and read, this board doesnt like 1T with ddr2. I wasnt orthos or memtest stable at 1T.

Concur, I cannot run 1T with my DDR2 either.

I Have no problems with 2x1Gb of Geil Ultra pc2-6400 4-4-4-12 memory running 1:1 at 320MHz and 3-3-3-9-1T. So I would think it's more about which type of DDR2 you use, rather than just a blanket statement that the 4coredual-sata2 doesn't like running 1T ?

 

[jimmor]

Originally posted by: cpmee

Originally posted by: dragonsm
Hey everyone-

I purchased this motherboard about a month ago in attempt to give myself a way to upgrade in stages. (and it has been a great motherboard so far without a single hiccup)

Right now I sit with a P4 3.0 with a cooler master hyper TX2, 1 gig of DDR2 3200 ram (yep, you read that right....initially, my buddy thought it was DDR) and a 6800 oc and all of this is sitting in a cooler master AMMO case. (which after reading all the reports of how ugly it is, I actually think it is a pretty cool looking case)

First thing I'd like to replace is the ram, and lately I have been getting email deals from Newegg. Reason for going DDR2 800, I figure that would be the most usable when I do get to upgrading my board. (plus it's cheap)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820145034
I believe I can get that for $29.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...emory-_-E1R-_-20146673

this will run $37.00

Anyone run either of these to modules? or am I better off just looking at the Adata or corsair that runs at 1.8 volts?
What is the max voltage this board handles? I remember reading an article on this board either off of this or TH and they used some OCZ ram that I thought was running around 2.1 volts.

After I get the ram dilemna solved, then that will allow me to upgrade the CPU later this year. (any thoughts on what the best "choice" for this board CPU wise is right now?)

Thanks for all your advice.

Steve

No, dont get those high voltage modules, get the low voltage stuff like Adata or Transcend.
The ram voltage doesnt go too high on this board. Adata and Transcend also use the Brainpower pcb, which is superior, and are even cheaper. I use the Adata ddr2 800.
Review: http://www.iax-tech.com/ram/50bucks/09.htm Also there is a 2gb max (actually 2.8gb) on this board, so just get the 2x1gb packages.

Its no surprise that high voltage dimms list tighter specs, low voltage dimms also run tighter when you throw more voltage at them.


Best choice for a cpu for this board is a conroe with a high multiplier, low fsb. That would be the 11X e2200 or the 12X e4600. The intel stock heatsink on these chips is impressive (for a stock sink) and is good for 3.0 to 3.2ghz at reasonable temps.

With out of the box poor overclocking mobos like the 4coredual it's definitely much better to choose a core 2 cpu with a high multiplier.

And since E4xxx cpu's have twice the on-board cache of E2xxx types, 4coredual users would be best served by simply choosing the highest multiplier version they can afford from E4500 (11x multiplier), E4600 (12x) or E4700 (13x) ?

 

[KDK Warhead]

Originally posted by: jimmor

Originally posted by: brokencase

Originally posted by: cpmee

Yes, run memtest86+ for many hours. I think your problem may be the 1T timing. From what Ive experienced and read, this board doesnt like 1T with ddr2. I wasnt orthos or memtest stable at 1T.

Concur, I cannot run 1T with my DDR2 either.

I Have no problems with 2x1Gb of Geil Ultra pc2-6400 4-4-4-12 memory running 1:1 at 320MHz and 3-3-3-9-1T. So I would think it's more about which type of DDR2 you use, rather than just a blanket statement that the 4coredual-sata2 doesn't like running 1T ?

Hmm.. i run memtest86 for about 12 hours (10 pases). No problems. Then i reboot the system and XP Freeze during boot...
I will sett FSB to 266 and memory to 4-4-4-4-12-2T and High voltage for AGP and DDR. I will then use the system as it is (hopfully wth out boot Freeze).

 

[Peav]

Im sure they were cool before the problem occured, so something is crapping out on this side. I can smell them burning when the cpu is plugged in. Take the cpu out and they dont get hot. Somethings gone on the board, made a resistor or a cap and its not regulating the voltage properly when the cpu is installed.

As it looks like the cpu is dead anyhoo I'll do a test and see what sort of volts is going into the cpu.

But 2 boards probably from the same batch, have failed in just over 4 months. Only ever seen this happen when I used ECS in my old Celeron 500 days.

Ever since then I have bought boards that would be classed as decent makes. MSI, Abit mainly and never had any issues.

Moved to asrock as it fitted exactly what I needed at the time, and had nothing but issues.
Thing is, when working, it was great, did everything I needed it to do

Ah well, just have to wait and see what happens, I cannot chuck another £200 at a cpu and board so RMA is the only hope.

Peav


Voltages. Taken from the 5 VT test points.

NO CPU
GFX AGP, 1x DDR2 module installed

VT1 = CPU Voltage = 1.03V
VT2 = VTT Voltage = 2.48V
VT3 = DDR Voltage = 1.96V
VT4 = AGP / NB = 1.56V
VT5 = Not sure (its between the mem slots agp side ) = 0.98

CPU Installed as well as GFX and Memory

VT1 = 1.20V
VT2 = 1.96V ( vtt which should not be above 1.5 i gatehr )
VT3 = 1.98
VT4 = 1.56
VT5 = 1.03

If anyone has a way of doing the same as above, even with cpu installed I'd be grateful.

 

[jimmor]

Originally posted by: KDK Warhead

Originally posted by: jimmor

Originally posted by: brokencase

Originally posted by: cpmee

Yes, run memtest86+ for many hours. I think your problem may be the 1T timing. From what Ive experienced and read, this board doesnt like 1T with ddr2. I wasnt orthos or memtest stable at 1T.

Concur, I cannot run 1T with my DDR2 either.

I Have no problems with 2x1Gb of Geil Ultra pc2-6400 4-4-4-12 memory running 1:1 at 320MHz and 3-3-3-9-1T. So I would think it's more about which type of DDR2 you use, rather than just a blanket statement that the 4coredual-sata2 doesn't like running 1T ?

Hmm.. i run memtest86 for about 12 hours (10 pases). No problems. Then i reboot the system and XP Freeze during boot...
I will sett FSB to 266 and memory to 4-4-4-4-12-2T and High voltage for AGP and DDR. I will then use the system as it is (hopfully wth out boot Freeze).

Since you can run memtest86 for hours without problems, I believe we can generally discount there being anything wrong with your chosen memory type or operating conditions.

Unfortunately however, your other choice of pairing a Q6600 (or any quad core for that matter) with a 4coredual mobo was not such a good idea. So many people all over the web (meaning all over the world) have been complaining for a long time about problems with 4coredual's and q6600's, that even asrock these days either readily acknowledge there is a problem (but don't know what exactly to do about it), or, just flat out refuse to discuss it.

At least one thing you are about to do (set bios's AGP volts to High) is a step in the right direction. AGP volts is actually Northbridge volts and thus it directly affects how high a mobo's FSB can be overclocked. And believe it or not, a 266FSB is actually "an overclock" for the 880 chipset used in a 4coredual. But this also means that you may never achieve "real stability" with a Q6600 on your particular 4coredual unless you consider doing a bit of mobo hard modding, ie, Increase Vagp by at least 10% (1.7-1.8v); and maybe because Vcore on a 4coredual can suffer from bad "droop" issues, it might also be a good idea to increase Vcore by 5-10% ?

 

[cpmee]

Originally posted by: KDK Warhead

Originally posted by: jimmor

Originally posted by: brokencase

Originally posted by: cpmee

Yes, run memtest86+ for many hours. I think your problem may be the 1T timing. From what Ive experienced and read, this board doesnt like 1T with ddr2. I wasnt orthos or memtest stable at 1T.

Concur, I cannot run 1T with my DDR2 either.

I Have no problems with 2x1Gb of Geil Ultra pc2-6400 4-4-4-12 memory running 1:1 at 320MHz and 3-3-3-9-1T. So I would think it's more about which type of DDR2 you use, rather than just a blanket statement that the 4coredual-sata2 doesn't like running 1T ?

Hmm.. i run memtest86 for about 12 hours (10 pases). No problems. Then i reboot the system and XP Freeze during boot...
I will sett FSB to 266 and memory to 4-4-4-4-12-2T and High voltage for AGP and DDR. I will then use the system as it is (hopfully wth out boot Freeze).

It does look like the memory is ok, so I would think its corrupt windows system files.

You could try a windows repair install.

 

[Alex0915]

OMG! What an up and down day it has been for me!

I got the gfx card today, somehow, with ground shipping that took only one day! (Since it shipped from NJ and Im in NY.)

First impression was that this card is not so big after all; actually its an inch shorter than my x1950pro! It does take up two slots, but barely. One thing which I didnt like was the large amount of white paste between the card and the cooler; looks like MSI applied too much of that? Some of it looks like its caking as well. Dont know, maybe this is normal for these kind of cards? Maybe someone else who has the 8800GTS can let me know about that.

I also see abrasions on the metal plating around the cooler, as if its been scraped along its side; but hopefully this is just a minor cosmetic issue.

I got rid of my IDE hard drive and that prehistoric ribbon cable it uses to get more airflow (just using one SATA 2 drive now), moved my audigy 2 zs card down to the bottom pci slot... and guess what?! I had enough room to squeeze in my dual slot pci cooler between the gfx card and the sound card! It fits in with about half an inch of room to spare!

Ok, now that I got all that out of the way, I boot up my computer and-- uh oh! One of my two dvi lcds isnt working. Not even at POST! I get into XP with a single display and then try to switch ports, but the other monitor doesnt work in the other port and the port which was actually working is sending an "out of range" error to the monitor that wasnt working originally!

Man, now Im really pissed! I switch back the ports so that the one monitor works again, but the other is still showing a blank display. I go into bios and set the pcie settings and come back and... no dice! Im about ready to call newegg to send the card back and then I think-- well lets download the nvidia display drivers... who knows, maybe that will change things.

It did! After I download the latest WHQL drivers, and set up my dual display config, now BOTH monitors work as good as ever! I dont know if it'll become an issue in the future (hopefully not!) but at least for now everything works fine. I just found it strange that one of my displays doesnt get detected (still doesnt in POST) unless and until the nvidia display driver is loaded. Maybe other people with newer nvidia cards and dual displays can chime in here.

I ahd more surprises in store for me when I started BMing. As you know, I run a Q6600 and that gets underclocked on these asrock boards. I can change the bios setting from auto to manual and that takes care of that, but asrock told me that might cause some system stability issues so I put it back on auto. So basically I have a 2.3GHz Q6600 and for some reason I cant fathom my 2GB of DDR2-667 memory is running at 192MHz at a 4:3 ratio to cpu fsb with 3-3-3-9 timings. No time to mess with that right now, I wanted to 3DMark06 this baby!

I found the results absolutely amazing. Not so much the score of 9037 on a pcie 4x board:


Main Test Results3DMark Score 9039 3DMarks

SM 2.0 Score 3715 Marks

SM 3.0 Score 3536 Marks

CPU Score 3562 Marks



Detailed Test Results
Graphics Tests
1 - Return to Proxycon 29.87 FPS

2 - Firefly Forest 32.046 FPS


CPU Tests
CPU1 - Red Valley 1.187 FPS

CPU2 - Red Valley 1.709 FPS


HDR Tests
1 - Canyon Flight (SM 3.0) 36.027 FPS

2 - Deep Freeze (SM 3.0) 34.688 FPS

Anyone else find those close to identical scores very interesting? Maybe Im maxing out the potential of this card with my cpu?

It'd probably be around 9500 or even higher at default Q6600 speeds (I tested default speeds with my 7950GT awhile back and it gave me a 300 pt boost on 3DMark06 and over 3800 points on the CPU part of the test.)

But the big deal... the really big deal here is that the card BARELY even got warm... even though it comes overclocked straight out of the factory-- at 575/1700! I kept atitool and rivatuner running on my other monitor to monitor temps and they started at 50C and didnt even make 60C until I looped 3DMark06 about 5 times! Only then did it reach 61C on the very last test-- Deep Freeze. Ive never ever had a card that didnt warm up to at least 75C, on the first run of 3DMark06, let alone five! I dont know what to make of this. Is the cooler on this card THAT good? Ive never had a dual slot cooler before so I havent a clue if thats what it is. Is it the dual pci cooler sitting under the card thats helping out? Who knows! All I can say is that, after such an up and down few hours, I am very pleasantly surprised with this card! After all the reports of it being a hot card, I anticipated at least 90C but never even got to 60C-- and yes, there was no artifacting whatsoever. I shudder to think how high I can overclock this baby; but with the results I've just obtained...I'm very optimistic.

 

[Spicedaddy]

Installed a Diamond HD3870 in my Asrock board, and it's running fine in XP with Catalyst 8.1 drivers. My Vista X64 install would bluescreen on boot after I put in the 3870, haven't tried reinstalling yet.

3DMark06 score is 9440... (E2180 at 2.5GHz, 2GB DDR2)


Anyways, this board has reached the end of its useful life for me, as I'm now running PCI-E and DDR2. I'll probably order a Gigabyte DS3L next week and see how far I can push the E2180. The Asrock has been useful, but VIA boards haven't changed after all these years. Still can't beat an Intel chipset for stability...

 

[brokencase]

Originally posted by: Alex0915
OMG! What an up and down day it has been for me!

I ahd more surprises in store for me when I started BMing. As you know, I run a Q6600 and that gets underclocked on these asrock boards. I can change the bios setting from auto to manual and that takes care of that, but asrock told me that might cause some system stability issues so I put it back on auto. So basically I have a 2.3GHz Q6600 and for some reason I cant fathom my 2GB of DDR2-667 memory is running at 192MHz at a 4:3 ratio to cpu fsb with 3-3-3-9 timings. No time to mess with that right now, I wanted to 3DMark06 this baby!

Alex, Let's get that board at 1:1 ratio and at least fsb 266. If you were running that before you should have no trouble doing so now.

Make sure you have the flexibility option turned off in the BIOS.
Get everything stable and then start bumping up the fsb a few mhz at a time.

Also set the AGP voltage to high, even though you do not have agp this raises the north bridge voltage.

I want to see if you can prove my theory of the AGP blocking further overclocking potential.
See if you can surpass 280 fsb.

 

[Steffche]

Well, I sent en email to Asrock complaining about how I cant my BSEL modded E2160 and my DDR550 RAM to run at 1:1 ration (and I have tried EVERYTHING...including dropping the FSB to 200Mhz)...it still wants to run at 4:3. Prior to the BSEL mod I could run 1:1...

Anyway, their response was so typical..."Sorry sir, but our BIOS doesnt support that ratio option".

I replied with a very stern email..making it quite clear that I was not impressed.

Anyway, last night I managed to get the FSB to 288Mhz, RAM still at 4:3, but timings are tight at 2.5-3-3-6, and my RAM is running at a measly 215Mhz or there abouts...

 

[cpmee]

Originally posted by: Steffche
Well, I sent en email to Asrock complaining about how I cant my BSEL modded E2160 and my DDR550 RAM to run at 1:1 ration (and I have tried EVERYTHING...including dropping the FSB to 200Mhz)...it still wants to run at 4:3. Prior to the BSEL mod I could run 1:1...

Anyway, their response was so typical..."Sorry sir, but our BIOS doesnt support that ratio option".

I replied with a very stern email..making it quite clear that I was not impressed.

Anyway, last night I managed to get the FSB to 288Mhz, RAM still at 4:3, but timings are tight at 2.5-3-3-6, and my RAM is running at a measly 215Mhz or there abouts...

Like others have mentioned, thats the spooky automatic ratio divider kicking in at anything above about 240fsb with ddr1. Some Asrock bios programmer certainly knows the specifics of it.

DDR2 800 pc6400 at $30 for 2gb is a viable option. Get it while you can. :laugh: (Of course I been generally wrong at guessing future ram prices in the past, but I fail to see how it can get much cheaper )

 

[Peav]

Originally posted by: cpmee

Like others have mentioned, thats the spooky automatic ratio divider kicking in at anything above about 240fsb with ddr1. Some Asrock bios programmer certainly knows the specifics of it.

DDR2 800 pc6400 at $30 for 2gb is a viable option. Get it while you can. :laugh: (Of course I been generally wrong at guessing future ram prices in the past, but I fail to see how it can get much cheaper )

Yup I told him that a few pages back Think it is more of a limitation of the VIA chipset. Seems they are plagued with restrictions like these since the KT133 chipset days.

I'm with you on this one.. He could ebay his ram, buy some DDR2 and prolly still make a profit.

I sold 2Gb 2sticks of 1gb ddr400 for about £80, august last year, and got DDR2 800 for £60.

DDR2 is so cheap these days that I can't understand why people aren't making the step up with these asrock boards.

 

[Alex0915]

Thanks, broken, this is exactly what Im trying to do. However, Ive never messed with the memory timings before, its always been at 192MHz. How do I get my memory at 1:1 with the fsb? I see a bunch of options in bios but none of them mentions memory ratios. It was easy for me to get the Q6600 up to spec by merely setting it to manual and that was all I had to do to make it run at 2.4, but even if I set the memory manually to ddr-533 or ddr-667, it always says 192MHz and 4:3 in cpu-z, although it says Im capable of 667MHz (I have 2 gig Samsung DDR2-667 in dual channel mode.) Do I have to turn flexibility off and also set the memory to ddr2-533; would that be all I need to do to get 1:1? Alao, which of these myriads of options are for memroy timings (ie to fix the 3-3-3-9 situation.)

Also, any idea why the second monitor doesnt load on post but needs the nvidia driver to "be detected?" Cant quite figure that one out, as all my older cards (7950GT AGP, x1950Pro PCIE) never had this problem.

Im thinking, with the overclocking and making the memory timings better, I can get this to 10,000 3DMark06 pretty easily... what do you think?

Thanks for all your help! Im going to do what you suggest as soon as I figure out how to do it lol.

 

[Alex0915]

Sorry for the typos on also* and memory* its still early here.

 

[martianmisfit]

i think i've about given up on this board. no matter what i change in the bios the pc just hangs upon reboot via "save & exit". i've been able to reset by ram timings of that recommended by the mfg but nothing changes. it's rated 667mhz 4.4.4.12 and cpu-z rates it at 533mhz 4.3.3.10 ???

also i seem to have incompatible issues with my STEAM games specifally Team Fortress 2, Portal and HL2 EP 2. all of which run on the Source 2007 Engine. i get random BSODs upon trying to or actually playing them. now i've tried 2 different video cards; X1650PRO 512MB agp & now a 2600XT 512MB agp. i've tried both windows XP & VISTA. ram usage goes to about 50%. Q6600 is underclocked to 2.2Ghz. i don't know what to do to fix this issue. windows solutions tells me that it's most likely an ATI driver issue. but i've tried both video cards along with CCC 7.12 & 8.1 + agp hotfix.

so if anything i'm asking what's the best & latest AGP board out that'll properly support a Q6600. i've searched through newegg.com but nothing good there at the moment.

if i had the money i would jump straight into a 680i SLI board along with an 8800 gpu.

thanks for any help & advice.

 

[cpmee]

Originally posted by: Alex0915
Thanks, broken, this is exactly what Im trying to do. However, Ive never messed with the memory timings before, its always been at 192MHz. How do I get my memory at 1:1 with the fsb? I see a bunch of options in bios but none of them mentions memory ratios. It was easy for me to get the Q6600 up to spec by merely setting it to manual and that was all I had to do to make it run at 2.4, but even if I set the memory manually to ddr-533 or ddr-667, it always says 192MHz and 4:3 in cpu-z, although it says Im capable of 667MHz (I have 2 gig Samsung DDR2-667 in dual channel mode.) Do I have to turn flexibility off and also set the memory to ddr2-533; would that be all I need to do to get 1:1? Alao, which of these myriads of options are for memroy timings (ie to fix the 3-3-3-9 situation.)

Yes, set memory to ddr2-533 and flexibilty to disable and you should have a 1:1 ratio. Then in the cpu section, up the fsb.


I can change the bios setting from auto to manual and that takes care of that, but asrock told me that might cause some system stability issues so I put it back on auto.

Only you know when youre stable, not Asrock.

 

[cpmee]

Originally posted by: martianmisfit
i think i've about given up on this board. no matter what i change in the bios the pc just hangs upon reboot via "save & exit". i've been able to reset by ram timings of that recommended by the mfg but nothing changes. it's rated 667mhz 4.4.4.12 and cpu-z rates it at 533mhz 4.3.3.10 ???

also i seem to have incompatible issues with my STEAM games specifally Team Fortress 2, Portal and HL2 EP 2. all of which run on the Source 2007 Engine. i get random BSODs upon trying to or actually playing them. now i've tried 2 different video cards; X1650PRO 512MB agp & now a 2600XT 512MB agp. i've tried both windows XP & VISTA. ram usage goes to about 50%. Q6600 is underclocked to 2.2Ghz. i don't know what to do to fix this issue. windows solutions tells me that it's most likely an ATI driver issue. but i've tried both video cards along with CCC 7.12 & 8.1 + agp hotfix.

so if anything i'm asking what's the best & latest AGP board out that'll properly support a Q6600. i've searched through newegg.com but nothing good there at the moment.

This is the best and latest AGP board and the only game in town, that supports Q6600.

There are a few AGP settings in bios that help a lot with AGP stability. Enable
AGP 3.0 Calibration and DBI Output for AGP Trans. These for sure.
Enabling the other stuff instead of Auto may help too.

Keep in mind the downside of enabling the AGP 3.0 options is that if you put in an older AGP 2.0 4X card, the system may not boot. Just have to keep that in mind.

 

[martianmisfit]

^

i'll give those settings a shot tonight.

changed some settings last night on the AGP part and it tried to reboot and instead gave me a windows.exe error and wanted me to re-install VISTA again to repair it.

just had to reset the pc & pick default bio settings and it started back up.

 

[brokencase]

Originally posted by: cpmee

Originally posted by: Alex0915
Thanks, broken, this is exactly what Im trying to do. However, Ive never messed with the memory timings before, its always been at 192MHz. How do I get my memory at 1:1 with the fsb? I see a bunch of options in bios but none of them mentions memory ratios. It was easy for me to get the Q6600 up to spec by merely setting it to manual and that was all I had to do to make it run at 2.4, but even if I set the memory manually to ddr-533 or ddr-667, it always says 192MHz and 4:3 in cpu-z, although it says Im capable of 667MHz (I have 2 gig Samsung DDR2-667 in dual channel mode.) Do I have to turn flexibility off and also set the memory to ddr2-533; would that be all I need to do to get 1:1? Alao, which of these myriads of options are for memroy timings (ie to fix the 3-3-3-9 situation.)

Yes, set memory to ddr2-533 and flexibilty to disable and you should have a 1:1 ratio. Then in the cpu section, up the fsb.


I can change the bios setting from auto to manual and that takes care of that, but asrock told me that might cause some system stability issues so I put it back on auto.

Only you know when youre stable, not Asrock.

Yep, and I would add that I am set to "auto" for all the memory settings, I just set memory clock for ddr2-533 (266mhz), flexibility off and manually set the fsb to 266 (or more for oc).

 

[Microsystem]

I set AGP voltage form AUTO to Normal. The system stability reduced and system restarted after 10 min Ortos ruining on the other hand:

E4500@vcore 1.51@3000Mhz VAGP= High: Stable
E4500@vcore 1.51@3000Mhz VAGP= Auto: Stable
E4500@vcore 1.51@3000Mhz VAGP= Normal: Not Stable

This show that Auto=High at my system setting and Increasing Vagp more than high(1.65 I think) Can help me more overclocking

But my motherboard warranty loss if I solder it. I hear anyone don it with pencil
Can anyone help me to increase my vagp by pencil mode.

 

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Another question:
increasing vagp more than 1.65v can help me overclocking my Agp card (radeon 9600) more?