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"Try 533 strap on the ram"

So set it to DDR2533? Thats what its set to already. I tried 230fsb but the system will not post, nor will it go any higher than that.

"Set the ram timings manually to 4-4-4-12"

See, thats the thing that confuses me. There are so many damn options in the Memory settings in BIOS I dont know where to even start. If you look at my screenshot, doesnt that already list 4-4-4-12 or is that different? Heres what I did:

CAS=4
TRCD=4
TRP=4
TRAS=12

Does that sound right? I tried this at 230fsb, and while i was able to boot, it was extremely buggy. Couldnt load Firefox, Orthos crashed almost immediately, as did DoD:S. Set it back to 220 and it seems fine. Sorry if I sound like a total newb but well I am! . Also, by raising vdimm, do you mean upping voltage? I only have 3 settings, and they dont say what voltage exactly, just low, normal or High). In Everest, the SPD reports:


Field Value
North Bridge Properties
North Bridge VIA Apollo PT880 Pro/Ultra
Supported Memory Types DDR-266 SDRAM, DDR-333 SDRAM, DDR-400 SDRAM, DDR2-400 SDRAM, DDR2-533 SDRAM
Revision 00
Package Type 1054 Pin FC-BGA
Package Size 3.75 cm x 3.75 cm
Process Technology 0.15 um
Core Voltage 1.5 V
In-Order Queue Depth 12

Memory Controller
Type Dual Channel (128-bit)
Active Mode Dual Channel (128-bit)
Bank Interleave 4-way

Memory Timings
CAS Latency (CL) 4T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 4T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 4T
RAS Active Time (tRAS) 12T
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 28T
Command Rate (CR) 2T
RAS To RAS Delay (tRRD) 2T
Write Recovery Time (tWR) 4T
Write To Read Delay (tWTR) 2T
Read To Precharge Delay (tRTP) 2T
Refresh Period (tREF) 2144T

Default TFRC is 28t, but in Bios it can go as high as 72t I think.


 

JonW

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Originally posted by: The Fedex Pope
"Try 533 strap on the ram"

So set it to DDR2533? Thats what its set to already. I tried 230fsb but the system will not post, nor will it go any higher than that.

"Set the ram timings manually to 4-4-4-12"

See, thats the thing that confuses me. There are so many damn options in the Memory settings in BIOS I dont know where to even start. If you look at my screenshot, doesnt that already list 4-4-4-12 or is that different? Heres what I did:

CAS=4
TRCD=4
TRP=4
TRAS=12

Does that sound right? I tried this at 230fsb, and while i was able to boot, it was extremely buggy. Couldnt load Firefox, Orthos crashed almost immediately, as did DoD:S. Set it back to 220 and it seems fine. Sorry if I sound like a total newb but well I am! . Also, by raising vdimm, do you mean upping voltage? I only have 3 settings, and they dont say what voltage exactly, just low, normal or High). In Everest, the SPD reports:


Field Value
North Bridge Properties
North Bridge VIA Apollo PT880 Pro/Ultra
Supported Memory Types DDR-266 SDRAM, DDR-333 SDRAM, DDR-400 SDRAM, DDR2-400 SDRAM, DDR2-533 SDRAM
Revision 00
Package Type 1054 Pin FC-BGA
Package Size 3.75 cm x 3.75 cm
Process Technology 0.15 um
Core Voltage 1.5 V
In-Order Queue Depth 12

Memory Controller
Type Dual Channel (128-bit)
Active Mode Dual Channel (128-bit)
Bank Interleave 4-way

Memory Timings
CAS Latency (CL) 4T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 4T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 4T
RAS Active Time (tRAS) 12T
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 28T
Command Rate (CR) 2T
RAS To RAS Delay (tRRD) 2T
Write Recovery Time (tWR) 4T
Write To Read Delay (tWTR) 2T
Read To Precharge Delay (tRTP) 2T
Refresh Period (tREF) 2144T

Default TFRC is 28t, but in Bios it can go as high as 72t I think.

Set tRFC to 56T from 28T. If you gain stability at 230fsb+, decrease it by 2 or 4 until your system becomes unstable again. You'll bound to find the perfect balance for this setting later on. Try to test your settings with memtest86+ so you can check improvements from your tweaks. Set tRRD/tWTR/tRTP from 2T to (3T or 4T) for the meantime as you can decrease these timing later on. You still have the skews settings untouched. If those doesn't work, set skews starting at 150ps then to 300ps-450ps etc. This is nothing more but delay from nb to ram. It can help stability greatly.


Goodluck,
Jon





 
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Ok, so I got 4-4-4-12 entered manually, and I changed tRRD etc to 2t. I bumped it up to 230fsb, and it seems stable for the time being. I ran my DoD:S benchmark, no crashes. Ran orthos for about 15 minutes and no crashes (I know not enough time, but usually if I enter an FSB higher than 229 it will crash immediately. I'm going to try higher fsbs and see where it cracks.

For the Skew settings, there are several in BIOS. Do I change all of them to 150ps?
 

lordcris

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Aug 2, 2008
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Hi guys,
anybody has specs for 4GB ram ( 2x2GB Kingston)
I have bios 2.02a and QX6800 processor.
i've tried everything but nothing works.
with default values doesn't even boot ( i see only one blinking cursor).
I had to lower the FSB from 266 to 260 to boot but it is still very unstable.
can you help me? tnx
 

Alexraptor

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Naturally, the 4CoreDual-SATA/4CoreDual-VSTA/775Dual-VSTA boards only support 2gb ram tops. for 4gb you need a modded bios, and to make sure the memory voltage dosen't exceed what the motherboard can provide.
 
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Well I think I cant go any further with this overclock. 250fsb is too unstable. I tried setting Voltage to High, but I cant get past BIOS screen. FSB around 246 seems ok. I tried playing around with skew but no matter what nothing seems to change for the better. I guess my RAM just isnt up to it. I'm not gonna spend another $45 on replacing it. I could have just gotten a new E7200 for $120 instead. I think I might sell this E4300 back and just get a new CPU, because I cant figure out this overclocking stuff. Thanks for the help though!
 

JonW

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Originally posted by: The Fedex Pope
Well I think I cant go any further with this overclock. 250fsb is too unstable. I tried setting Voltage to High, but I cant get past BIOS screen. FSB around 246 seems ok. I tried playing around with skew but no matter what nothing seems to change for the better. I guess my RAM just isnt up to it. I'm not gonna spend another $45 on replacing it. I could have just gotten a new E7200 for $120 instead. I think I might sell this E4300 back and just get a new CPU, because I cant figure out this overclocking stuff. Thanks for the help though!

That seem to be a nice improvement from your previous attempt though. You couldn't break 230 and now you're at 246fsb. You set all the skews to the same value. BTW, save your cash for a new mb. Chances are you will hit the same wall with this mb with E7200. This mb isn't meant for extreme oc'ing so don't expect too much from it. With a decent mb, you can probably get your E4300 to 330-400fsb depending how much patience you have at tweaking your system it's very possible. There's no way for this mb to reach higher than shading the vagp resistor or doing the bsel pin mod on th cpu. Trust me on this one


Goodluck,
Jon
 

lordcris

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Originally posted by: Alexraptor
Naturally, the 4CoreDual-SATA/4CoreDual-VSTA/775Dual-VSTA boards only support 2gb ram tops. for 4gb you need a modded bios, and to make sure the memory voltage dosen't exceed what the motherboard can provide.

yes, the bios i have is modden ( 2.02a )
but how i check the voltage doesn't exceed the one provided by the motherboard?
 

lowrider69

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Originally posted by: The Fedex Pope
Well I think I cant go any further with this overclock. 250fsb is too unstable. I tried setting Voltage to High, but I cant get past BIOS screen. FSB around 246 seems ok. I tried playing around with skew but no matter what nothing seems to change for the better. I guess my RAM just isnt up to it. I'm not gonna spend another $45 on replacing it. I could have just gotten a new E7200 for $120 instead. I think I might sell this E4300 back and just get a new CPU, because I cant figure out this overclocking stuff. Thanks for the help though!

I don't think a e7200 will work in this board. If somebody has tried it and was successful let us know.

Check this page out.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/cpu.a...=4CoreDual-SATA2&s=775
 

Mr Vain

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Originally posted by: lowrider69
Originally posted by: The Fedex Pope
Well I think I cant go any further with this overclock. 250fsb is too unstable. I tried setting Voltage to High, but I cant get past BIOS screen. FSB around 246 seems ok. I tried playing around with skew but no matter what nothing seems to change for the better. I guess my RAM just isnt up to it. I'm not gonna spend another $45 on replacing it. I could have just gotten a new E7200 for $120 instead. I think I might sell this E4300 back and just get a new CPU, because I cant figure out this overclocking stuff. Thanks for the help though!

I don't think a e7200 will work in this board. If somebody has tried it and was successful let us know.

Check this page out.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/cpu.a...=4CoreDual-SATA2&s=775

Unofficial bios supports the E7200

http://www.pctreiber.net/filebase.php?fileid=2663

Changelog:
ASRock 4CoreDual-SATA2 Bios 2.02a

Datiert auf den 21.07.2008
4CoreDual-SATA2 BIOS L2.02 REV:a

Changelog:

- Fügt HD 4850 und HD 4870 Unterstützung hinzu
- verbesserte Lüftersteuerung (Smart Fan)
- Speedstep Unterstützung
- Enhanced Halt State Option
- Thermal Throttling Option

Unklar:
- 4 GB Unterstützung
- E7200 Unterstützung


I would be good if someone could confirm this.


 

picurka

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Jul 22, 2008
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Hey JonW....

Thank on the advice with a diff cpu...However i must agree that the ram pushing it....I heard someone did get 4gb ram working with ddr2 800 but it didnt work for me...The ram is very flexible tho....It is working tight with 300 on the setfsb....Of coarse all voltages high...Didnt do a bsel mod since that a little scary to me....
Thanks on the advice tho i going to try a little diffrent ram timings also advanced ones and maybe the 7x multiplier....
 

lordcris

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Originally posted by: picurka
Hey JonW....

Thank on the advice with a diff cpu...However i must agree that the ram pushing it....I heard someone did get 4gb ram working with ddr2 800 but it didnt work for me...The ram is very flexible tho....It is working tight with 300 on the setfsb....Of coarse all voltages high...Didnt do a bsel mod since that a little scary to me....
Thanks on the advice tho i going to try a little diffrent ram timings also advanced ones and maybe the 7x multiplier....


could you post your chipset config pls?
 

lowrider69

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Originally posted by: Mr Vain
Originally posted by: lowrider69
Originally posted by: The Fedex Pope
Well I think I cant go any further with this overclock. 250fsb is too unstable. I tried setting Voltage to High, but I cant get past BIOS screen. FSB around 246 seems ok. I tried playing around with skew but no matter what nothing seems to change for the better. I guess my RAM just isnt up to it. I'm not gonna spend another $45 on replacing it. I could have just gotten a new E7200 for $120 instead. I think I might sell this E4300 back and just get a new CPU, because I cant figure out this overclocking stuff. Thanks for the help though!

I don't think a e7200 will work in this board. If somebody has tried it and was successful let us know.

Check this page out.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/cpu.a...=4CoreDual-SATA2&s=775

Unofficial bios supports the E7200

http://www.pctreiber.net/filebase.php?fileid=2663

Changelog:
ASRock 4CoreDual-SATA2 Bios 2.02a

Datiert auf den 21.07.2008
4CoreDual-SATA2 BIOS L2.02 REV:a

Changelog:

- Fügt HD 4850 und HD 4870 Unterstützung hinzu
- verbesserte Lüftersteuerung (Smart Fan)
- Speedstep Unterstützung
- Enhanced Halt State Option
- Thermal Throttling Option

Unklar:
- 4 GB Unterstützung
- E7200 Unterstützung


I would be good if someone could confirm this.

That's cool, I haven't tried the unofficial BIOSes yet from that site I stick with the official releases. Hopefully somebody could try it, I wouldn't hold my breath though.
 
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Well while 246fsb seems to be stable, the temps get too hot. I ran Orthos for 40 minutes and it was reaching almost 67c on the core. I have to reseat the HSF probly because that doesnt sound right. Also, I found out while playing GTR2 that my Xbox 360 gamepad would lock up after a few seconds of use. So I bumped it down to stock speeds because I need that gamepad to work. If the gamepad via USB is locking up, it'll probly screw up my Firefire external HD (which uses the same USB2/Firewire PCI card the gamepad is connected to). That would be way to risky to run on overclocked speeds. If the E7200 cant run (dont know why, doesnt the mobo support 1066fsb?), I might just get a another mobo then. But I would need to find something that supports 3 IDE devices (2 HDs and a DVDRW).

 

Mr Vain

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Originally posted by: lowrider69
Originally posted by: Mr Vain
Originally posted by: lowrider69
Originally posted by: The Fedex Pope
Well I think I cant go any further with this overclock. 250fsb is too unstable. I tried setting Voltage to High, but I cant get past BIOS screen. FSB around 246 seems ok. I tried playing around with skew but no matter what nothing seems to change for the better. I guess my RAM just isnt up to it. I'm not gonna spend another $45 on replacing it. I could have just gotten a new E7200 for $120 instead. I think I might sell this E4300 back and just get a new CPU, because I cant figure out this overclocking stuff. Thanks for the help though!

I don't think a e7200 will work in this board. If somebody has tried it and was successful let us know.

Check this page out.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/cpu.a...=4CoreDual-SATA2&s=775

Unofficial bios supports the E7200

http://www.pctreiber.net/filebase.php?fileid=2663

Changelog:
ASRock 4CoreDual-SATA2 Bios 2.02a

Datiert auf den 21.07.2008
4CoreDual-SATA2 BIOS L2.02 REV:a

Changelog:

- Fügt HD 4850 und HD 4870 Unterstützung hinzu
- verbesserte Lüftersteuerung (Smart Fan)
- Speedstep Unterstützung
- Enhanced Halt State Option
- Thermal Throttling Option

Unklar:
- 4 GB Unterstützung
- E7200 Unterstützung


I would be good if someone could confirm this.

That's cool, I haven't tried the unofficial BIOSes yet from that site I stick with the official releases. Hopefully somebody could try it, I wouldn't hold my breath though.

According to this thread Asrock has official support for the E7200 since official bios 2.0.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=567543

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Hi and and thx gapmaster28 !

In return, for your information, ASROCK has just confirmed me that this motherboard was officially compatible with Intel E7200 since Bios version 2.0


Yes the E7200 works with this motherboard and it is a nice mother board as I am just using it as a base to slowly upgrade my hardware since it has DDR and DDR2 support also with AGP and PCI-E. HOWEVER if your looking to overclock with this board I would recomend spending the extra money to get something better. I can only overclock my E7200 from 2.53Ghz to around 2.77 2.8Ghz while being stable anything over that and the system wont boot up. I havnt messed around with the bios to much thas why I posted this thread was looking for some Answers!

Page 80 of this thread d0uble has his E7200 working.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...AR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

:thumbsup:
 
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Are my overclocking woes memory related though? If I got some better OCing Ram would I have an easier time? I mean I'd love to have 2.3 or even 2.4ghz if I could get it stable. 246fsb ok until I try to use my gamepad that freezes. Otherwise it seems ok. Does anyone know why the USB gamepad would freeze when the system is overclocked? My mouse and keyboard which are also USB dont have this problem, but they use the onboard USB ports. The gamepad and my External Firewire HD use a Zonet PCI adapter card. But I have PCI frequency locked at 100mhz.

I tried 266 for the hell of it, bumping the E4300 to almost 2.4ghz. For someone reason it actually posts and boots Windows, however Orthos fails almost immediately. Also, I tried enabled Flexibility in BIOS ram options. That made one of my sticks dissappear, said it was operating in Single Channel mode. Took several reboots to reset it and get my other stick of ram back. If I upgrade the ram to a better OCing ram, that'd be an easier (and cheaper) upgrade than a new CPU or mobo. Again, if I could achieve 2.4ghz and make it stable I'd be very happy.

Also, why do I need to run 4-4-4-12 in DDR2 533 mode? Wouldnt running in 667 and using 5-5-5-18 be easier on the ram? I cannot go past 220 or so if I use 667 mode. Its only when I use 533 mode that I can break 220. Why?
 

lowrider69

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Originally posted by: Mr Vain
Originally posted by: lowrider69
Originally posted by: Mr Vain
Originally posted by: lowrider69
Originally posted by: The Fedex Pope
Well I think I cant go any further with this overclock. 250fsb is too unstable. I tried setting Voltage to High, but I cant get past BIOS screen. FSB around 246 seems ok. I tried playing around with skew but no matter what nothing seems to change for the better. I guess my RAM just isnt up to it. I'm not gonna spend another $45 on replacing it. I could have just gotten a new E7200 for $120 instead. I think I might sell this E4300 back and just get a new CPU, because I cant figure out this overclocking stuff. Thanks for the help though!

I don't think a e7200 will work in this board. If somebody has tried it and was successful let us know.

Check this page out.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/cpu.a...=4CoreDual-SATA2&s=775

Unofficial bios supports the E7200

http://www.pctreiber.net/filebase.php?fileid=2663

Changelog:
ASRock 4CoreDual-SATA2 Bios 2.02a

Datiert auf den 21.07.2008
4CoreDual-SATA2 BIOS L2.02 REV:a

Changelog:

- Fügt HD 4850 und HD 4870 Unterstützung hinzu
- verbesserte Lüftersteuerung (Smart Fan)
- Speedstep Unterstützung
- Enhanced Halt State Option
- Thermal Throttling Option

Unklar:
- 4 GB Unterstützung
- E7200 Unterstützung


I would be good if someone could confirm this.

That's cool, I haven't tried the unofficial BIOSes yet from that site I stick with the official releases. Hopefully somebody could try it, I wouldn't hold my breath though.

According to this thread Asrock has official support for the E7200 since official bios 2.0.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=567543

Quote
Hi and and thx gapmaster28 !

In return, for your information, ASROCK has just confirmed me that this motherboard was officially compatible with Intel E7200 since Bios version 2.0


Yes the E7200 works with this motherboard and it is a nice mother board as I am just using it as a base to slowly upgrade my hardware since it has DDR and DDR2 support also with AGP and PCI-E. HOWEVER if your looking to overclock with this board I would recomend spending the extra money to get something better. I can only overclock my E7200 from 2.53Ghz to around 2.77 2.8Ghz while being stable anything over that and the system wont boot up. I havnt messed around with the bios to much thas why I posted this thread was looking for some Answers!

Page 80 of this thread d0uble has his E7200 working.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...AR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

:thumbsup:

Cool! Does this mean it will support all 45nm CPUs with a 1066FSB?
 

lowrider69

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Aug 26, 2004
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Originally posted by: The Fedex Pope
Are my overclocking woes memory related though? If I got some better OCing Ram would I have an easier time? I mean I'd love to have 2.3 or even 2.4ghz if I could get it stable. 246fsb ok until I try to use my gamepad that freezes. Otherwise it seems ok. Does anyone know why the USB gamepad would freeze when the system is overclocked? My mouse and keyboard which are also USB dont have this problem, but they use the onboard USB ports. The gamepad and my External Firewire HD use a Zonet PCI adapter card. But I have PCI frequency locked at 100mhz.

I tried 266 for the hell of it, bumping the E4300 to almost 2.4ghz. For someone reason it actually posts and boots Windows, however Orthos fails almost immediately. Also, I tried enabled Flexibility in BIOS ram options. That made one of my sticks dissappear, said it was operating in Single Channel mode. Took several reboots to reset it and get my other stick of ram back. If I upgrade the ram to a better OCing ram, that'd be an easier (and cheaper) upgrade than a new CPU or mobo. Again, if I could achieve 2.4ghz and make it stable I'd be very happy.

Also, why do I need to run 4-4-4-12 in DDR2 533 mode? Wouldnt running in 667 and using 5-5-5-18 be easier on the ram? I cannot go past 220 or so if I use 667 mode. Its only when I use 533 mode that I can break 220. Why?


You might better off just getting the e7200 if you're not going to volt mod the board and do the BSEL mod. Or you can get a Q6600 for $179 from the egg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819115018 OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819115017 Retail


It's a older CPU but still very capable..in fact I almost ordered a Q6600 last night while they still have them. I might still buy it, not a huge increase in mhz from my e6420 but the extra two cores are nice. Plus once Newegg runs out you know the prices of them will go through the ass on Pricewatch. IF you set the FSB manually to 266mhz FSB on the Q6600 it'll run at the correct speed. I had to do the same with my e6420.

Before I bought this board I found this thread and realized that I would have to volt mod the board and do the BSEL mod to get a 800mhz FSB cpu up to 266mhz and beyond. So I decided to buy a CPU with a 1066mhz FSB off the bat because I didn't want to do voltage mods and the BSEL mod. Back in the day I would have said what the hell but I have no time now I just want the shit to work with minimal effort.

You should download yourself a copy of UBCD(or other bootable disk) and boot from that when overclocking. Run memtest which is on that CD and see if it passes before booting into Windows. Last thing you need is file corruption.

I tried overclocking my e6420(1066fsb) and got it up to 286mhz FSB and memtest passed, I had the memory set to 1:1 ratio with my CPU but I had to relax the timings. I didn't even raise any voltages. I'm sure it can go higher than that but I didn't try, I brought her back down to stock. I'm going to wait until I upgrade to a new mobo and i'll overclock then. I figured if i'm going to overclock..I want a major jump.

The board has been stable for six months except a few blue screens which I figured out was my CAS being too tight @ 667..4:5 ratio... with the cas set to auto, (read back a few pages, I changed it to 1:1 ratio and changed the CAS settings) and i'm going to leave well enough alone. No more blue screens.

Also keep the memory @ 1:1 with the CPU, this board takes a nice hit with a 4:5 ratio when using DDR2. I tested it with Sandra and it's true what people have said about that.

 
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"Also keep the memory @ 1:1 with the CPU, this board takes a nice hit with a 4:5 ratio when using DDR2. I tested it with Sandra and it's true what people have said about that. "

See thats another thing. How do I get 1:1? Is it possible my unstable OCing can be fixed if only I got it to 1:1?
 

JonW

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Originally posted by: The Fedex Pope
"Also keep the memory @ 1:1 with the CPU, this board takes a nice hit with a 4:5 ratio when using DDR2. I tested it with Sandra and it's true what people have said about that. "

See thats another thing. How do I get 1:1? Is it possible my unstable OCing can be fixed if only I got it to 1:1?

The problem with 667 strap which brings your ram speed to 333mhz is that it stresses the nb (mem controller) too much. This is why it's a little more difficult to get it to run stable than say 533 266mhz 1:1. The bsel mod is the way to go imo. A magnifying glass and a conductive pen will take that cpu to the moon . You can even change your default cpu vid with that mod. Then you can pencil the vagp resistor all the way to 300fsb. Mission complete!

Goodluck,
Jon
 
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Hmm. So if I do the BSEL mod, the CPU will go to 2.4ghz without issue? I've read a little about it, and it doesn't seem that hard to do. I'm just worried that I'll screw it up and lose the CPU. I could give it a try if it'll give me stable 2.4ghz which I could definetly live with. But why the Pencil mod for vagp? What would that do?
 

JonW

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Originally posted by: The Fedex Pope
Hmm. So if I do the BSEL mod, the CPU will go to 2.4ghz without issue? I've read a little about it, and it doesn't seem that hard to do. I'm just worried that I'll screw it up and lose the CPU. I could give it a try if it'll give me stable 2.4ghz which I could definetly live with. But why the Pencil mod for vagp? What would that do?

That mod lets you gain more bootable fsb once you've done the bsel mod. Around 270-280fsb where the nb (chipset) start to need a bump of voltage from bios high setting. Tweaking the ram nets you about 5-10fsb, so everything adds up in the end. Bsel mod your cpu stock vcore so it's at 1.40v-1.45v required to run higher core clock (you pass 400-600mhz oc on the cpu and it starts to need some voltage). This is to compensate for the vdroop from the mb once you start hammering it with games etc. Max the vagp mod so you have a lot of room to play with different setting for booting bios oc. This chipset is nearly as old as the 875p. That too had problems in windows once you past 300fsb+. Windows runs really sluggish. No soldering iron to make this board fly. It just needs execution to get the job done


Goodluck,
Jon
 

martianmisfit

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what the most current compatible gfx card i can get to run on this board?

currently running an HIS HD 2600XT.
is it worth it to upgrade to a SAPPHIRE HD 3850 agp?

can i run a 4870 like someone mentioned earlier?
if so what's the best brand; SAPPHIRE?

any help is appreciated.
thanks,

- martianmisfit
 

littleprince

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The board booted my e8400 while I used the RAID controller to get some data off some drives.
It of course didn't boot naturally to 3.0Ghz as it couldn't do 1333 FSB, but booted none the less no problems.
 

Mr Vain

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Originally posted by: littleprince
The board booted my e8400 while I used the RAID controller to get some data off some drives.
It of course didn't boot naturally to 3.0Ghz as it couldn't do 1333 FSB, but booted none the less no problems.

Thx for the info, it gives us all with this motherboard more options.
 
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