Originally posted by: deadness
i just ordered this with a e4300 and 2 gigs of 675 corsair 4-4-4-12 ram. will be using my x800xl agp with it. hope to oc it but im new so ill probally post more later.
i also have a thermaltake purepower 420w psu and under +12v it says 18A. was wondering if this will be sufficient for build?
Hello focussoft, please keep us updated on the E4400 Overclock Result soonOriginally posted by: focussoft
I ordered this board with a e4400 and 2 gigs of the same corsair ram U ordered hoping to be able to oc to close to 3ghz
Hello lookin4dlz, when I got my 4CoreDual-VSTA last few days, I checked with the Reseller why DDRII-667 1GB RAM Pricing dropped tremendously in Asia Market. He advised me that DDRII-667 is oversupplied for the moment & at the same time the RAM Manufacturer is rolling out DDRII-800 RAM as the Next Standard Batch of Manufacturing Line.Originally posted by: lookin4dlz
Been reading up on DDR vs. DDRII. Looks like the DDR is actually better due to lower latency, but the heat/power requirements of DDRII are much less. So, I don't know whether getting some DDRII & overclocking it will help me out any. If I could 2GB of low latency DDR cheap then maybe I'll look into that.
Originally posted by: linuxtiger
Hello lookin4dlz, when I got my 4CoreDual-VSTA last few days, I checked with the Reseller why DDRII-667 1GB RAM Pricing dropped tremendously in Asia Market. He advised me that DDRII-667 is oversupplied for the moment & at the same time the RAM Manufacturer is rolling out DDRII-800 RAM as the Next Standard Batch of Manufacturing Line.Originally posted by: lookin4dlz
Been reading up on DDR vs. DDRII. Looks like the DDR is actually better due to lower latency, but the heat/power requirements of DDRII are much less. So, I don't know whether getting some DDRII & overclocking it will help me out any. If I could 2GB of low latency DDR cheap then maybe I'll look into that.
In another words, if we purchase DDRII-667 RAM now, very likely the DDRII-667 RAM Price should be increasing (as obseleted) in short future. Getting 2 x 1GB DDRII-800 RAM maybe a wise future investment (Assume Next Generation MB supports mainly DDRII-800 as well 4 RAM Slots available OR to take advantage possible 1600MHz FSB CPU in future ...)
Question now, can ASRock advise us which DDRII-800 RAM is Tested & Certified?
FYI, I had a Taiwan PCChips Motherboard which supports only DDRII-533 RAM. Logged a Support Ticket with them & they are very helpful & advised me which DDRII-667 RAM is tested in their LAB
Hello cdmoore74, possible to run at 667MHz. 1st Question now which Manufacturer's DDRII-800 RAM at least could be detected & allowed to boot-up into the Operating System?Originally posted by: cdmoore74
Same question here. Can you use DDRII-800 on these boards? Sorry if question is silly, I've been stuck on pc2700 to pc3200 for years now.
Discussed earlier with my colleagues from other team, who mainly focus on mass deployment of Notebooks (Laptops) to Customers, such as Financial Institutions & Government Agencies. Windows Vista may need 2GB to run optimumly. Unless we stick to Windows XP forever.Originally posted by: lookin4dlz
a.) how much going from 1GB to 2GB will do for me performance-wise
Memory Latency on OS Performance? I doubt we able to see Major Differences. Save $$$ for the Quad-Core CPU. Find ways to reduce CPU, Motherboard, AGP, RAM etc Temperature - we should see Some Differences. I am using a Special Micro-ATX Casing which able to fit ATX Board tightly. Plugged in 3 PCI-Slot Fan Blower to exhaust out the heat ....Originally posted by: lookin4dlz
b.) what effect the higher DDRII latency will have on performance compared to running the memory 5:4 (I guess with it auto-detecting @ 333 I'm at 5:4 right now) or 1:1 or even overclocking the memory
c.) whether DDRII will be going to lower latencies or the industry will jump right to DDRIII
Hello allenlux, try to rename the following files in windows\system32:Originally posted by: allenlux
Step 3: Remove all unnecessary hardware, redo repair on bare system. Same result.
Originally posted by: funboy42
Now I dont know if this will help you out or not but I am running DDR2 667, and I hit a wall at 250 fsb unless I put my mem to 533 settings. Then I can take it to 315fsb before my pc says no more unless you give me more juice. But leaving my ram at stock setting, forget it, I cannot oc past 250fsb, must turn the ram down and underclock it to overclock the pc. No big deal for me doing that, may be a slight disadvantage on this board, but even still it smokes my old 4000+ set up.
When I can afford to get another mobo I will see if it is this one, but for the time being I am not going to complain not getting every drop out of my CPU with this board for I did alot of reading before buying it and knew it wasnt the best overclocker, but had the fail safes in place, and this was my first time overclocking a intel chip, I didnt want to mess anything up as I learned how to oc a intel. If you bought this board with plans of overclocking like a mother....shut your mouth...you bought the wrong board for that, and should of read up on it before buying it
its a good board to dip you feet into, or want something that will do agp and pci, and be solid as a rock at stock, or slightly over stock, but to buy it expecting mad oc's like the old 939 dual sata II would do, its not going to happen, without messing around, and volt modding, and alot of other stuff, and then even still with only a 4x PCI-E slot, your not maxing it out.
Originally posted by: jamesnuutinen
i just bought an x1950pro agp of a friend , and because my old system wouldnt handle the vga i ordered an Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA motherboard with a c2d e6600... and after reading some of this will this motherboard greatly reduce game performance? or will a game like 2142 still run well? also got 2 gig ddr2 667... worried now....
Originally posted by: allenlux
I've got a problem which very likely is not caused by my newly-purchased 4CoreDual-VSTA motherboard, but I mention it in case another owner has a clever idea - there seem to be a lot of inquiring minds in this thread.
Simplifying slightly, the scenario is like this:
Step 1: Tuesday: new 4CoreDual-VSTA motherboard and Core 2 Duo 6420 arrive in post. Filled with enthusiasm for instant modest overclocking possibilities, I rip out the existing motherboard from one of our PCs - an Elite 760GX-M - SiS chipset - throw aside the Sempron 3100 and install the new parts. At this point the PC has 512MB of DDR RAM, Radeon 9600LE graphics, an Initio SCSI card, a Terratec XFire sound card, 430 watt Antec Truepower PSU.
I tried to follow the instructions on "How to replace the motherboard on a computer that is running Windows Server 2003, Windows XP, or Windows 2000" here: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;824125. Result is an XP upgrade installation stalled at the infamous "34 minute" stage.
Step 2: Upgrade BIOS from 1.40 to 1.70. The upgrade goes fine (from DOS). I clear the CMOS. I then run an XP repair installation. In normal mode, the result is a blank screen with a cursor, which can be moved with the mouse. In safe mode, the system constantly reboots.
Step 3: Remove all unnecessary hardware, redo repair on bare system. Same result.
Step 4: Reassemble original PC, ie put back the ECS motherboard. Same result - blank screen with cursor, constant reboots in safe mode.
Step 5: Put back the new 4CoreDual-VSTA motherboard and 6420, replace DDR RAM with new 2x512 DDR2 533 Corsair Value Ram - same result again.
I've poked around with the Windows Recovery Console, disabled a few unnecessary drivers and services, looked over the system using the BartPE boot disk, but basically I'm stuck - the system is not exactly dead, but it won't finish up the XP repair installation, and I'm extremely reluctant to do a fresh install (all important files are on the server and various backup media, but I don't want to have to reinstall dozens of applications, and I don't have a recent image of my C: drive).
As I said, this failed XP repair was a by-product of my enthusiasm for the new motherboard, for which it can't be blamed, but can anyone see what driver might produce the "blank screen with cursor" effect? I suspect the XP setup tried to install some new driver for the new motherboard and this is conflicting with the old SiS drivers.
All suggestions welcome.
John
Originally posted by: wildfins
Originally posted by: funboy42
Now I dont know if this will help you out or not but I am running DDR2 667, and I hit a wall at 250 fsb unless I put my mem to 533 settings. Then I can take it to 315fsb before my pc says no more unless you give me more juice. But leaving my ram at stock setting, forget it, I cannot oc past 250fsb, must turn the ram down and underclock it to overclock the pc. No big deal for me doing that, may be a slight disadvantage on this board, but even still it smokes my old 4000+ set up.
When I can afford to get another mobo I will see if it is this one, but for the time being I am not going to complain not getting every drop out of my CPU with this board for I did alot of reading before buying it and knew it wasnt the best overclocker, but had the fail safes in place, and this was my first time overclocking a intel chip, I didnt want to mess anything up as I learned how to oc a intel. If you bought this board with plans of overclocking like a mother....shut your mouth...you bought the wrong board for that, and should of read up on it before buying it
its a good board to dip you feet into, or want something that will do agp and pci, and be solid as a rock at stock, or slightly over stock, but to buy it expecting mad oc's like the old 939 dual sata II would do, its not going to happen, without messing around, and volt modding, and alot of other stuff, and then even still with only a 4x PCI-E slot, your not maxing it out.
funboy42...
I am very interested in getting this MOBO coupled with E4300 and DDR2-667 to try OC it to your settings.
Would you mind provide some detail info as of how you did it, such as BIOS settings, CPU PIN MOD?
Thanks...
Originally posted by: Mr Vain
Originally posted by: jamesnuutinen
i just bought an x1950pro agp of a friend , and because my old system wouldnt handle the vga i ordered an Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA motherboard with a c2d e6600... and after reading some of this will this motherboard greatly reduce game performance? or will a game like 2142 still run well? also got 2 gig ddr2 667... worried now....
No it will work fine with AGP x8, it?s only the PCI-e that?s not a full 16 lanes.
There is no other real choice if you want AGP and DDR2 in one motherboard, this is it basically.
Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: wildfins
Originally posted by: funboy42
Now I dont know if this will help you out or not but I am running DDR2 667, and I hit a wall at 250 fsb unless I put my mem to 533 settings. Then I can take it to 315fsb before my pc says no more unless you give me more juice. But leaving my ram at stock setting, forget it, I cannot oc past 250fsb, must turn the ram down and underclock it to overclock the pc. No big deal for me doing that, may be a slight disadvantage on this board, but even still it smokes my old 4000+ set up.
When I can afford to get another mobo I will see if it is this one, but for the time being I am not going to complain not getting every drop out of my CPU with this board for I did alot of reading before buying it and knew it wasnt the best overclocker, but had the fail safes in place, and this was my first time overclocking a intel chip, I didnt want to mess anything up as I learned how to oc a intel. If you bought this board with plans of overclocking like a mother....shut your mouth...you bought the wrong board for that, and should of read up on it before buying it
its a good board to dip you feet into, or want something that will do agp and pci, and be solid as a rock at stock, or slightly over stock, but to buy it expecting mad oc's like the old 939 dual sata II would do, its not going to happen, without messing around, and volt modding, and alot of other stuff, and then even still with only a 4x PCI-E slot, your not maxing it out.
funboy42...
I am very interested in getting this MOBO coupled with E4300 and DDR2-667 to try OC it to your settings.
Would you mind provide some detail info as of how you did it, such as BIOS settings, CPU PIN MOD?
Thanks...
NP
If you are getting the same mem as I did, the $40 kingston from the egg, then just go into bios, set it to 533 instead of 667, and bring up the fsb till it will not post, or you start to get window boot up errors, or not booting at all. Then start to turn down the fsb till you can start to get into windows without errors, and start to test it and see fi you start to get any errors with prime95, 3dmark, and I guess orthos, which I havent had a chance to try it yet.
Once you find a happy place with no errors, I usually turn it down a few more on the fsb, just as a safe side for myself, so not to burn things up, for the little bit of gain isnt worth it.
I did not volt or pin moding, and not planning on it. I ran it till it stated messing up, on mine was at 315fsb, then backed it down and found a happy place at 310, tested everything, but the orthos, and it passed at 310, then I backed it to 300fsb, and thats where it has been since I got it, rock solid, without ever crashing, or giving me a error in games or movies, leaving it to run for several days in a row.
So as you see, I did nothing special, and for me to go volt and pin moding is not worth it to get 5-10 more fps, and having the chance of breaking my hardware. Not made of money over here, so my stuff has to last a year or longer
Originally posted by: wildfins
Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: wildfins
Originally posted by: funboy42
Now I dont know if this will help you out or not but I am running DDR2 667, and I hit a wall at 250 fsb unless I put my mem to 533 settings. Then I can take it to 315fsb before my pc says no more unless you give me more juice. But leaving my ram at stock setting, forget it, I cannot oc past 250fsb, must turn the ram down and underclock it to overclock the pc. No big deal for me doing that, may be a slight disadvantage on this board, but even still it smokes my old 4000+ set up.
When I can afford to get another mobo I will see if it is this one, but for the time being I am not going to complain not getting every drop out of my CPU with this board for I did alot of reading before buying it and knew it wasnt the best overclocker, but had the fail safes in place, and this was my first time overclocking a intel chip, I didnt want to mess anything up as I learned how to oc a intel. If you bought this board with plans of overclocking like a mother....shut your mouth...you bought the wrong board for that, and should of read up on it before buying it
its a good board to dip you feet into, or want something that will do agp and pci, and be solid as a rock at stock, or slightly over stock, but to buy it expecting mad oc's like the old 939 dual sata II would do, its not going to happen, without messing around, and volt modding, and alot of other stuff, and then even still with only a 4x PCI-E slot, your not maxing it out.
funboy42...
I am very interested in getting this MOBO coupled with E4300 and DDR2-667 to try OC it to your settings.
Would you mind provide some detail info as of how you did it, such as BIOS settings, CPU PIN MOD?
Thanks...
NP
If you are getting the same mem as I did, the $40 kingston from the egg, then just go into bios, set it to 533 instead of 667, and bring up the fsb till it will not post, or you start to get window boot up errors, or not booting at all. Then start to turn down the fsb till you can start to get into windows without errors, and start to test it and see fi you start to get any errors with prime95, 3dmark, and I guess orthos, which I havent had a chance to try it yet.
Once you find a happy place with no errors, I usually turn it down a few more on the fsb, just as a safe side for myself, so not to burn things up, for the little bit of gain isnt worth it.
I did not volt or pin moding, and not planning on it. I ran it till it stated messing up, on mine was at 315fsb, then backed it down and found a happy place at 310, tested everything, but the orthos, and it passed at 310, then I backed it to 300fsb, and thats where it has been since I got it, rock solid, without ever crashing, or giving me a error in games or movies, leaving it to run for several days in a row.
So as you see, I did nothing special, and for me to go volt and pin moding is not worth it to get 5-10 more fps, and having the chance of breaking my hardware. Not made of money over here, so my stuff has to last a year or longer
Thanks funboy42. I like your approach as it is simple and safe to do.
Would you think that PC6400 (800mhz) would allow more OC or PC5400 (667mhz) is more appropriate with this mobo b/c of the memory/fsb frequency ratio?
Originally posted by: jamesnuutinen
Originally posted by: Mr Vain
Originally posted by: jamesnuutinen
i just bought an x1950pro agp of a friend , and because my old system wouldnt handle the vga i ordered an Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA motherboard with a c2d e6600... and after reading some of this will this motherboard greatly reduce game performance? or will a game like 2142 still run well? also got 2 gig ddr2 667... worried now....
No it will work fine with AGP x8, it?s only the PCI-e that?s not a full 16 lanes.
There is no other real choice if you want AGP and DDR2 in one motherboard, this is it basically.
awsome thanks for that ^_^ just thought the boards fsb might be a major bottleneck