ASRock 775Dual-VSTA

[raskren]

Originally posted by: pdawg1717

Originally posted by: pdawg1717
I'm using the 2.60a bios and the fans turn off when suspending to ram but when I wake my comp up, the usb mouse does not power up and I have to reboot using the usb keyboard...anyone else seeing this?

FYI for those that have this problem: It is a Vista problem and not a mobo problem...there is a hotfix for this problem although it is not posted on M$ site...google for it...

Nice find.

I think this is what you're referring to http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925528

 

[pdawg1717]

Originally posted by: raskren

Originally posted by: pdawg1717

Originally posted by: pdawg1717
I'm using the 2.60a bios and the fans turn off when suspending to ram but when I wake my comp up, the usb mouse does not power up and I have to reboot using the usb keyboard...anyone else seeing this?

FYI for those that have this problem: It is a Vista problem and not a mobo problem...there is a hotfix for this problem although it is not posted on M$ site...google for it...

Nice find.

I think this is what you're referring to http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925528

Interesting...I didn't see that one...here is the one I installed and it fixed my problem...there is no download link but I googled and found the file...

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929734

 

[StephenMSmith]

Where are we as fas as the S3 standby goes? I see a few people trying it w/various results. The last time time I tried, I had the following problems in XP:

1) System appears to actually enter S3 but the fans do not turn off. I think it was actually going into S3 b/c it did require "USB resume from S3" enabled in BIOS to resume via usb mouse. It sounds like this fan problem is fixed in 2.6? Can anyone w/XP confirm that?

2) If any of my usb device were allowed to wake the computer from S3 in XP device manager, then I could not get to standby at all. It would start and then XP would immediately claim that a device was preventing standby. These are the exact same devices that had no S3 issues at all w/my previous board (Abit IS-7), so it's not a device driver issue.

I'm a little reluctant to try it myself just b/c I recall many years ago, when S3 was hit or miss, that when it "missed" for the board I had at time, it really screwed up everything, requiring CMOS to be physically reset via board jumper.

 

[ajsasr]

I've not done a whole lot of overclocking in my days but I've heard good things about this CPU and overclocking. I've got the following setup:

CPU: Intel Pentium D 915 2.8 Retail Stock HSF
Motherboard: 775Dual-VSTA BIOS Version 2.60
Memory: Corsair Value Ram 2x512 Paired DDR2-533 (3-3-3-9 T2)
Video Card: ATI AIW 9700 Pro AGP

At these settings with no overclocking, the system is nice and stable, but I know I can get more out of it. What's my upper level with this setup? I know I've tried the FSB at 260 (3.64GHz), but the machine would get to the windows screen and then reboot. I think that's a voltage issue. When I turn up the FSB like that, do I need to loosen my memory settings? Also can someone explain to me the importance of FSBRAM ratio and how to get it to a 1:1 ratio? Do I need to do anything with my PCI-e frequency? I'm just not sure what to change and what to leave alone. Thanks

 

[prock]

I run MaxBlast and can see and setup the drives full capacity. When I go to install Windows XP, the install only sees 131GB of the 320GB drive. If I try to install Windows, it will only freeze and never install.

I put an 80GB hard drive on the Primary channel as master and could completely install Windows and could see the full SATA drive and use it within Windows - no problem.


Why can't I make my serial ATA drive the boot drive and insall Windows when I remove the EIDE 80GB drive? I run MaxBlast and can see and setup the drives full capacity.

In my experience Hdd boot sectors can be mysterious and problematic, especially when they contain a proprietary overlay. I have had overlayed drives that would not be recognized in a different computer even after a reformat because of the non-standard boot sector info. Only fix was to write zeros to the whole drive and sometimes even then, the boot sector never got rewritten or fixed.

So my best guess is that the XP installation is finding the boot sector of this drive to be not exactly what it's looking for.

 

[tno]

ajsasr,

I've not done a whole lot of overclocking in my days but I've heard good things about this CPU and overclocking. I've got the following setup:

When you're overclocking it's generally a good idea to loosen all of your memory timings until you've found the top end of your processors stability. Also, the better bet, to get good stable overclocks is to (painstakingly) take it up a few Mhz at a time (say, 5) and test for stability, a fifteen minute Prime95 torture test should be enough. As far as your board goes, I'm pretty sure it doesn't have a lot of options for ratio manipulation. The chipset will basically just pick the right divider for you, which will typically be very conservative and nothing to really worry about. Just so we know, what does CPU-z report your memory speed as at stock?

Tno

 

[imported_Stubby]

So my best guess is that the XP installation is finding the boot sector of this drive to be not exactly what it's looking for.

Agreed.

I Should have never installed the ovelay first.

 

[timzak]

Is anyone running Crucial Ballistix DDR400 (DDR1) with this board? This ram specs at 2.8v while this mobo only gives 2.73 to memory on the highest setting. I haven't had any luck getting my Ballistix running at a true 200Mhz stable (using 4coreVSTA) and am wondering if it is due to lack of voltage. Tried relaxing timings, no go. Only if I enable flexibility (which just drops the true memory speed to 133mhz @ 266 FSB on an E4300), or discretely set to DDR333 do I get a fully stable system.

thx.

 

[Fercyful]

Please I need some advice here...

I´m planning to update my system (please check below) with a 775 VSTA my question is if my DDR1 memory will go well in the new mobo.

I have 1 module of 512Mb 333 + 1 module of 1024mb 400 (total 1,5GB) running both at 333 here... In this new mother can I will run them like that with a Core 2 Duo e6600 ? I know no dual channel possible! but I can´t buy RAM at the moment so I hope I will can run the new system for a while using both modules...

I don´t know if the e6600 can run in a system without dual channel ram. I know the performance will suffer a lot but can´t buy ram at the moment, only money for mother and cpu.

btw... any with e6600 and this mother? how can compare with a system that I have now...
I read in Silent Hunter 4 game forums that the game with the intel e6600 is not very good...

thanks!

ps: I have already a good 500 W PSU here with 2 rails... to much for my actual system

 

[Mr Vain]

Originally posted by: Fercyful
Please I need some advice here...

I´m planning to update my system (please check below) with a 775 VSTA my question is if my DDR1 memory will go well in the new mobo.

Yes

I have 1 module of 512Mb 333 + 1 module of 1024mb 400 (total 1,5GB) running both at 333 here... In this new mother can I will run them like that with a Core 2 Duo e6600 ? I know no dual channel possible! but I can´t buy RAM at the moment so I hope I will can run the new system for a while using both modules...

You can try, if it does not work use the 1GB by itself.

I don´t know if the e6600 can run in a system without dual channel ram. I know the performance will suffer a lot but can´t buy ram at the moment, only money for mother and cpu.

As far as I know E6600 operates in single channel also.

btw... any with e6600 and this mother? how can compare with a system that I have now...
I read in Silent Hunter 4 game forums that the game with the intel e6600 is not very good...

thanks!

ps: I have already a good 500 W PSU here with 2 rails... to much for my actual system

 

[imported_bog]

I was running 512M DDR1 400 + 256M DDR1 333 and honestly my board was much more stable than it is know after upgrading to 2 X 1G DDR2 800...

 

[aussieburger]

How come they got a 8800gts working in all pci-express speeds here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/03/27/...s_scaling_analysis/page8.html#3dmark06

? but a 8800 doesn't work on this board
acording to the review it sounds like a bios problem on most motherboards to run at low pci-e speeds

 

[imported_bog]

Originally posted by: aussieburger

? but a 8800 doesn't work on this board

You never know if you don't try, in the first they say 8800 does not work either on 8x+8x SLI, but you can find reviews with them working very fine...

 

[raskren]

Originally posted by: StephenMSmith
Where are we as fas as the S3 standby goes? I see a few people trying it w/various results. The last time time I tried, I had the following problems in XP:

Suspend to RAM is working fine for me in Windows Vista Ultimate. I had to install the Microsoft hotfix listed several posts above but other than that, I did not have to configure anything. Bios rev 2.6.

 

[bigsnyder]

Originally posted by: aussieburger
How come they got a 8800gts working in all pci-express speeds here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/03/27/...s_scaling_analysis/page8.html#3dmark06

? but a 8800 doesn't work on this board
acording to the review it sounds like a bios problem on most motherboards to run at low pci-e speeds

I was wondering the same thing. Even though performance takes a hit, that would be one less
upgrade to deal with later on.

 

[StephenMSmith]

Originally posted by: raskren

Originally posted by: StephenMSmith
Where are we as fas as the S3 standby goes? I see a few people trying it w/various results. The last time time I tried, I had the following problems in XP:

Suspend to RAM is working fine for me in Windows Vista Ultimate. I had to install the Microsoft hotfix listed several posts above but other than that, I did not have to configure anything.

And your using BIOS 2.6? Anyone w/XP tried to S3 w/current BIOS?

 

[ajsasr]

Originally posted by: tno
ajsasr,

I've not done a whole lot of overclocking in my days but I've heard good things about this CPU and overclocking. I've got the following setup:

When you're overclocking it's generally a good idea to loosen all of your memory timings until you've found the top end of your processors stability. Also, the better bet, to get good stable overclocks is to (painstakingly) take it up a few Mhz at a time (say, 5) and test for stability, a fifteen minute Prime95 torture test should be enough. As far as your board goes, I'm pretty sure it doesn't have a lot of options for ratio manipulation. The chipset will basically just pick the right divider for you, which will typically be very conservative and nothing to really worry about. Just so we know, what does CPU-z report your memory speed as at stock?

Tno

Right now I'm running 242MHz FSB on a Pen D 915. That gets me to about 3.4GHz. (Strange thing is that sometimes when I boot the POST says 3.40 and other times it says 3.41. Not sure why.) That also puts my DDR2-533 at 242MHz on a 1 : 1. Everything seems to be fine and I can run Orthos for 1+ hours error free. Yesterday however after about 2 hours of WoW, the system rebooted. My initial thought was I i didn't have enough voltage to the RAM or CPU. Whether that's the case for not, I don't know. There are soooo many settings in this BIOS that can be changed, I don't know what to do. So I changed my AGP apt from 64 to 128, and changed my V-Link speed from fast to normal, and my HDD Strenght from Highest to normal. It's running like that now.

Last night I ran Orthos for almost 5 hours error free on default settings. Is that a good indication that I don't have a hardware problem and that my reboot is a settings issue?

Here are my settings:

Overclock Mode - CPU,PCIE Async.
CPUFr. - 242
PCIE Fr. - 100
PCI Fr. - 33.33
Spread Spectrum - Disabled
Boot Failure - enabled

Max CPUID Val. - Disabled

No-Execute Memory. - Disabled


Chipset:

Dram Freque. - Auto
Flexib.- Disabled
Cas Latency - 4
Interleave - 4-Way
Precharge - 4
Tras - 12
trcd - 4
trfc - Auto
trrd - Auto
trtp - Auto
twtr - Auto
twr - Auto
Bus Select.- Dual
Command Rate - 2T

Advanced Memory... all default
Advanced Host Conf:
Pipeline DRQCTL - Enabled
all other default

DRAM Voltage - Low
AGP Voltage - High

Primary Gra.Adapt. - AGP
AGP - 8x
AGP Fast Write - Enable
AGP Aperture Size - 128MB
AGP Staggered delay - auto
AGP GADSTB - auto

V-Link - normal
PCI delay Transaction - enabled
IDE Drive Strenght - normal
PCIE Downstream Pipeline - disabled
Onboard LAN - enabled
Onboard Sound - enable

ACPI - default

IDE - default

PCIpnp - default

Floppy - disable

Super IO - all disabled

USB Conf. - default

Thanks.

---Edit---

I just ran Orthos for 3 hours without any errors.

 

[2old2rock]

Originally posted by: StephenMSmith

Originally posted by: raskren

Originally posted by: StephenMSmith
Where are we as fas as the S3 standby goes? I see a few people trying it w/various results. The last time time I tried, I had the following problems in XP:

Suspend to RAM is working fine for me in Windows Vista Ultimate. I had to install the Microsoft hotfix listed several posts above but other than that, I did not have to configure anything.

And your using BIOS 2.6? Anyone w/XP tried to S3 w/current BIOS?

using xp, BIOS 2.6 & still no S3. Hibernate working.

 

[imported_bog]

Originally posted by: ajsasr

Originally posted by: tno
ajsasr,


Last night I ran Orthos for almost 5 hours error free on default settings. Is that a good indication that I don't have a hardware problem and that my reboot is a settings issue?

Is your system fully OK without overcloking?
I am asking because mine isn't (I run D820), but is more stable in 242M than at 200 FSB!!!. It helped to overclock also PCIE to 113...117MHz, but I still have reboots in games (WOW and CS) even if all tests are OK.
At 253MHz FSB it did never reboot but no longer ORTHOS stable.
I suggest you to check if you can rise more the FSB, and if not to check Flexib. - on, at least for tests purpose (mem performance will drop a lot)

 

[Fercyful]

I was running 512M DDR1 400 + 256M DDR1 333 and honestly my board was much more stable than it is know after upgrading to 2 X 1G DDR2 800...

hey bog! thanks for your reply, also Mr Vain (very informative!)

happy to know the board at least post with mixed RAM

tomorrow the VSTA + e6600 is arriving here and I will test it
with 1 DDR 1 GB 400 + 1 DDR 512 K 333 (1,5GB) @ will test at 333 of course...

hope it will run stable like the system I have now...

You tell me you use DDR2 800 !! I thought this board only support
667. so you can buy a 800 and run it at 667 without problems? if that
is right I think is a good point to have that RAM ready for other mother
upgrade and don´t have to buy again !! please can you confirm me that?
any?

thanks again!

 

[tcsenter]

Originally posted by: aussieburger
How come they got a 8800gts working in all pci-express speeds here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/03/27/...s_scaling_analysis/page8.html#3dmark06

They physically turned the card into PCI Express x8 or x4 device running in a full-lane x16 slot. The exact opposite is at work on the x4 lane slot of the 775Dual-VSTA; the slot itself is limited to x4 lanes while the card is not.

Though, this does raise an interesting possibility that forcing the card to be a PCI Express x8 or x4 device by taping over contacts might actually make it work with the PT880's x4 slot. Hmm...

 

[aussieburger]

Originally posted by: Fercyful

You tell me you use DDR2 800 !! I thought this board only support
667. so you can buy a 800 and run it at 667 without problems? if that
is right I think is a good point to have that RAM ready for other mother
upgrade and don´t have to buy again !! please can you confirm me that?
any?

thanks again!

Yes I run DDR2 800 ram @ 667 with no problems on this board

@tcsenter

Good point ! anyone got a 8800 lying around that they can tape as illustrated in this article:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/03/27/...s_scaling_analysis/page8.html#3dmark06

to a x4 pci-e ?

 

[pavelz]

GF 8800 work on this motherboard .. but not work under WIN XP .. only VISTA

see this :

http://www.techspot.com/vb/all/windows/...348-8800GTS-on-AsRock-775DUALVSTA.html

Alex Atkin UK03-20-2007, 04:30 PM
Actually the 8800 GTS DOES work on this board, at least in Vista Home Premium x64 it does and its DEFINATELY a fair improvement over my old 6600GT AGP. I get around 6000 in 3D Mark 06 with a Core 2 Duo 6400 and 1GB DDR RAM (not DDR2). Of course this board was only a stop-gap while I upgraded graphics and got some DDR2 RAM. Once I have DDR2 I will be saving up for a better board and box this up to eventually go in my Linux box once I can afford another Core 2 Duo. Linux seemed to work better on VIA than the nForce 2 its currently running on.

As for XP though, I cant get it working at all I just get BSOD or a blank screen. However this is CLEARLY something that COULD be fixed in drivers if anyone could be bothered otherwise how would it work fine in Vista? If its ASRock, VIA, nVidia or even Microsoft at fault - who knows. But fact is, the 8800 DOES work on this board quite happily at PCIe 4x which decent performance on current games even with the bottleneck. It would be a perfect stopgap while saving for a better motherboard if you want to run Vista NOW, just a PITA it doesnt work in XP.

 

[pavelz]

i contact AsRock Support and answer is :

Due to the restriction of the NVIDIA VGA driver, 775Dual-VSTA did not support NVIDIA 8800 series PCIE card


.. so maybe WIN XP driver have restriction and driver for VISTA not


.. sry my english )

 

[ajsasr]

Well I thought I was stable. Running the following settings, I can run orthos, for a long time error free. I can play WoW, and do whatever I want. Last night however, my system rebooted on me. So I don't know.....I'm starting to think I should spend more money and get something better....

Overclock Mode - CPU,PCIE Async.
CPUFr. - 242
PCIE Fr. - 100
PCI Fr. - 33.33
Spread Spectrum - Disabled
Boot Failure - enabled
Max CPUID Val. - Disabled
No-Execute Memory. - Disabled


Chipset:

Dram Freque. - Auto
Flexib.- Disabled
Cas Latency - 4
Interleave - 4-Way
Precharge - 4
Tras - 12
trcd - 4
trfc - Auto
trrd - Auto
trtp - Auto
twtr - Auto
twr - Auto
Bus Select.- Dual
Command Rate - 2T

Advanced Memory... all default
Advanced Host Conf:
Pipeline DRQCTL - Enabled
all other default

DRAM Voltage - Low
AGP Voltage - High

Primary Gra.Adapt. - AGP
AGP - 8x
AGP Fast Write - Enable
AGP Aperture Size - 128MB
AGP Staggered delay - auto
AGP GADSTB - auto

V-Link - normal
PCI delay Transaction - enabled
IDE Drive Strenght - normal
PCIE Downstream Pipeline - disabled
Onboard LAN - enabled
Onboard Sound - enable

ACPI - default
IDE - default
PCIpnp - default
Floppy - disable
Super IO - all disabled, parallel
USB Conf. - default

I've decided to move everything back to defaults and run it for a week or so. Let me ask this though. I have a pretty cheap power supply that I've used for 3 years. Could that be the problem? Its a 420W PSU that was used on an Athlon system.