ASRock 775Dual-VSTA

[imported_a2willia]

Thanks for all the suggestions with my problems. I tried them all, but ultimately RMA'd the board. Since I couldn't wait on the return process and needed to verify it wasn't my OEM 6600 chip before my 15 day exchange no questions warranty was up, I ordered a P5B and some DDR2 ram. No problems now, so it definitely was a bad board. Thankfully I was able to return all the parts I bought to troubleshoot.

Coincidentally, my neighbor had the same problem with his ASROCK board from newegg (where I purchased mine from 2 days earlier than him) - I let him use the stuff I had bought to troubleshoot before returning them. He was upgrading from a previous intel platform, while I was from the AMD side. Maybe newegg has a bad batch?

I'll try the celeron from ebay in the replacement asrock when it comes next week. :thumbsup:

 

[Mr Vain]

Just overclocked my Pentium D 805 on the Asrock 775Dual-VSTA motherboard again from 3700Mhz to 3880MHz with Shamino's second CPU pin volt mod OF 1.5 VOLTS.

I did the first 1.420 Volt mod and the voltage in the CPU-Z is gone from 1.216-1.232 stock voltage to 1.36-1.376 and has allowed me to overclock my D 805 from 3400Mhz to 3700Mhz.

With the second CPU pin volt mod of 1.5Volts my D 805 has gone from 3700Mhz to 3880Mhz and the system is about 98% stable. I have posted at 4000MHz but might need more juice (Voltage) to keep it there stable. CPU-Z voltage has gone from 1.36-137 to 1.424 1.44 after the pin volt mod.

Memory has gone from 3-3-3-9 @ 3400Mhz with a 5/6 divider at to a 1/1 divider automatically @ 3700Mhz and onwards on my Geil DDR2 ram at 2T.

Temperatures are 24 ambient 44 at idle to 57 under heavy going with water-cooling. The VRM?s are needing good airflow with the extra voltage being produced otherwise everything seems ok.

 

[CRSTech06]

Quick post (or late for work)

RE: RANDOM FREEZES

Try disabling the onboard audio on the BIOS for test. It cleared up my problem (Tried drivers on CD and downloaded 1.41 from ASROCK, same results)
AT least one guy who posted no problems has PCI audio card.

775Dual Vista
E6300
2G Corsair XMS

 

[Mr Vain]

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Hi All!

I'm planning to buy Asrock 775Dual-VSTA and I have also checked other options for mainboard, so i stumpled on this:

Hi All!

I'm planning to buy Asrock 775Dual-VSTA and I have also checked other options for mainboard, so i stumpled on this:

Could Asrock 775Dual-VSTA's 300 mhz fsb barrier problem be similar to Conroe945-DVI: (quating Here) http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?...dccd591c8be4349a&showtopic=24637&st=80

This goes out to all the ppl having a ASRock Conroe945-DVI and are stuck at 299 Mhz:

Just put your FSB/PCIe to async AND put your PCIe-Frequency manually to 117 MHzs (or 112) and set your RAM-Settings manually.
Set your memory options manually, or use the memory ratio divider. I've set the ratio to 200mhz, which makes it work at 533mhz while FSB is at 350 (1400mhz). It's always best to run your memory at 533mhz with lowest possible timings (CL).

- sorry about my bad english -

This guy may be onto something??????????

 

[Engineer]

Using CPU-Z (or SiSoft 2007 for that matter), I can't seem to see my ram speed. Always states ZERO MHz (or is grayed out). Anyone have any clues?

I'm using OCZ 800MHz Gold DDR2, if that matters.

 

[andy318]

My ASRock story -

I had posted earlier that i had a problem getting my X800 Pro card to work with 775Dual-VSTA. Last week i bought a used GeForce 7800GTX PCIExpress card and just circumvented the problem. This also meant i had to buy a new power supply. However, when i was playing games, the machine would freeze up 10-15 minutes into gameplay. For a while i thought it was related to memory timing issues and tried setting slower times for my RAM (originally 2-3-25 DDR400). That did not make a difference and now i was getting pretty mad at this motherboard

Yesterday, i read in the forums that someone fixed this by disabling on-board audio and using a PCI sound card. Rather than go that far, i tried updating the audio driver to the latest version from Realtek - 1.46 (ASRock's site only has version 1.41). That did the trick !! No more problems.

So i finally got my configuration to work but if i had to do it all over again, i would just buy a premium motherboard. Spent too much time getting all the parts to work together and could not even use my old video card and power supply like i had planned. Now i am afraid to overclock this thing 'cause i dont want to debug crashes and freezes again

 

[Mr Vain]

Originally posted by: andy318

My ASRock story -

I had posted earlier that i had a problem getting my X800 Pro card to work with 775Dual-VSTA. Last week i bought a used GeForce 7800GTX PCIExpress card and just circumvented the problem. This also meant i had to buy a new power supply. However, when i was playing games, the machine would freeze up 10-15 minutes into gameplay. For a while i thought it was related to memory timing issues and tried setting slower times for my RAM (originally 2-3-25 DDR400). That did not make a difference and now i was getting pretty mad at this motherboard

Yesterday, i read in the forums that someone fixed this by disabling on-board audio and using a PCI sound card. Rather than go that far, i tried updating the audio driver to the latest version from Realtek - 1.46 (ASRock's site only has version 1.41). That did the trick !! No more problems.

So i finally got my configuration to work but if i had to do it all over again, i would just buy a premium motherboard. Spent too much time getting all the parts to work together and could not even use my old video card and power supply like i had planned. Now i am afraid to overclock this thing 'cause i dont want to debug crashes and freezes again

Have you tried your original x800Pro card to see if it works fine now with your new drivers?


I don?t know how it is that many don?t have any problems and others are up to their eyeballs with problems on this motherboard? :Q

I must be one of the lucky ones so far as it has been all smooth sailing so far even with volt mods, overclocking, DDR1, DDR2 etc.

My System
D805 @ 3880Mhz
Thermaltake CPU water cooling
Asrock 775Dual-VSTA
ATI XT850PE AGP
Geil Value Ram DDR2 2Gb 5-5-5-15 @ 3-3-3-9 1T
Samsung spin point 250Gb SATA2 @ SATA1
Thermaltake Toughpower 750W PSU
Thermaltake TAi Chi Aluminium case with inbuilt water cooling accessories

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: andy318

My ASRock story -

I had posted earlier that i had a problem getting my X800 Pro card to work with 775Dual-VSTA. Last week i bought a used GeForce 7800GTX PCIExpress card and just circumvented the problem. This also meant i had to buy a new power supply. However, when i was playing games, the machine would freeze up 10-15 minutes into gameplay. For a while i thought it was related to memory timing issues and tried setting slower times for my RAM (originally 2-3-25 DDR400). That did not make a difference and now i was getting pretty mad at this motherboard

Yesterday, i read in the forums that someone fixed this by disabling on-board audio and using a PCI sound card. Rather than go that far, i tried updating the audio driver to the latest version from Realtek - 1.46 (ASRock's site only has version 1.41). That did the trick !! No more problems.

So i finally got my configuration to work but if i had to do it all over again, i would just buy a premium motherboard. Spent too much time getting all the parts to work together and could not even use my old video card and power supply like i had planned. Now i am afraid to overclock this thing 'cause i dont want to debug crashes and freezes again

I guess I got lucky then because I disabled the onboard sound from the beginning because I had installed my old Soundblaster Live pci card.(never been a fan of onboard sound)

And like Mr Vain, I would be interested to know if your X800 works now.

 

[sanvara]

Originally posted by: Cheex
I read this article before...they took an E6700 from 2.67 to 2.97 (+11% OC).

11% seems to be around the standard overclock for a Conroe with this board which for $60 is darn good. It will basically get you up to the next level. ie. E6600 at E6700 speed, E6700 at E6800 speed etc.

I'm running an E6600 with 1GB DDR and an X800XL AGP card. I've been able to get up to E6700 speed - (295 x 9). I don't know whether more overclockable DDR2 ram would get me higher or not.

Anyone else with E6600 OC experiences?

 

[Ravenise]

Originally posted by: Gary Key

Originally posted by: Ravenise

Originally posted by: Cheex


I have an ATI Radeon X850 XT AGP
512x2 Samsung 3200;FSB 393
Conroe Core Duo 2 E6400 @2.36
Maxtor 250 gig IDE 133 on a single IDE cable
Maxtor 100 gig shared on IDE cable with Plextor PX-712A DVD
Sound Blaster Augidy 2 value
Thermaltake Purepower 420W Max

What a pain... I'm not ready to let go of my AGP card. I sure hope a bios patch can fix this!!

I had two locking issues last night with a X800XL AGP on both this board and the i865 board leading me to believe the issue is with ATI drivers or card at the moment. I have a X800XT that did not cause the same loop issue in 3DMark06 or freezing in Q4 after several loops. This is the ATI card we used for ATI AGP testing. I will see if I can get a X850XT to test with next week. Drop your memory down to DDR333, auto SPD, and High Voltage and then test again (memtest, superpi, and prime can be clear but you can still have application issues). If the issues persist, remove your Sound Blaster A2 and drivers. See if the issues continue, if they do then disconnect the secondary maxtor hd and plextor DVD and test again.

I am making the assumption that you did a clean XP install? If not, switching chipsets can and will cause difficulties. Also, what are your AGP settings in the bios?

Well, thanks for the info sweet Cheex, You helped me stopped the crashing. It was my Audigy 2. As soon as I unplugged it & removed the drivers, there was absolutely no crashing in any of the games or software I ran. I started to figure it was the audio card too, as there was a sudden output of sound into the speakers whenever it crashed. Now the next problem... no sound! hmm, I figure I will try placing the card in another PCI slot... if this doesn't fix it, I will try some older drivers... other than that I don't really know what to do... if its an IRQ thing that will suck cause I dont want to reinstall windows again & change the power management scheme. I will update you HERE as I progress.

I found one other person who had the same problem as me... heres the link: http://tinylink.com/?nQJqfwjMYS

"Cons: Southbridge and my SoundBlaster Audigy 2 are having conflicts. Everything is rock solid using the onboard audio, but when i install my audigy the motherboards pci bus locks up randomly. I know the sound card is good, it never gave me a problem in my previous setup."

Exact same issue with me. If anyone has any other spare Audigy's or Live's laying around, try them out. I will continue to try get my card working. -----------------

Well, no luck. I changed the cards slot position and used some old drivers to no avail. The comp wouldn't crash if i had the card inserted without drivers if that means anything. I hope there will be a driver fix, if anyone here is in any position to talk to Creative or ASRock with a voice they will listen to, please do. In the mean time I will be getting a newer, better soundcard. Thanks for all of the help & good luck to the rest of you!

 

[sanvara]

Originally posted by: Ravenise

"Cons: Southbridge and my SoundBlaster Audigy 2 are having conflicts. Everything is rock solid using the onboard audio, but when i install my audigy the motherboards pci bus locks up randomly. I know the sound card is good, it never gave me a problem in my previous setup."

Exact same issue with me. If anyone has any other spare Audigy's or Live's laying around, try them out. I will continue to try get my card working.

You might want to try an X-Fi. I am running one without any conflicts or crashes.

 

[Ravenise]

Originally posted by: sanvara

Originally posted by: Ravenise

"Cons: Southbridge and my SoundBlaster Audigy 2 are having conflicts. Everything is rock solid using the onboard audio, but when i install my audigy the motherboards pci bus locks up randomly. I know the sound card is good, it never gave me a problem in my previous setup."

Exact same issue with me. If anyone has any other spare Audigy's or Live's laying around, try them out. I will continue to try get my card working.

You might want to try an X-Fi. I am running one without any conflicts or crashes.

Thanks for the info

 

[CRSTech06]

I may have found another problem which may or may not be causing crashes but may be worth checking out.

I've been using an ATI Radeon 9600XT. It works perfectly except it locks up when running Microsoft Flight simulator 2004. (It did the same on my old computer so I'm sure it's a flaky card). It breezes through 3DMarks 2001 and BurnIn Test with no problems.
I went to uninstall the drivers in order to install a different (nVidia) card. The recommended procedure by ATI is go to Control Panel - Add/Remove Software. When I clicked to remove the ATI software I got a pop-up window with 2 checkboxes to pick the drivers I wanted to remove, one for AGP and one for PCI (secondary). The odd thing is that I have never installed any PCI devices of any kind on this computer. I seems to me that only the AGP driver should be installed. I don't know how the ATI software determines which drivers to install. I removed the PCI driver but I checked tonight and the PCI driver was back again.
(Hadn't swapped boards yet)

 

[lepump]

i have an audigy.. and it's working just fine

 

[CRSTech06]

Originally posted by: andy318

My ASRock story -

Yesterday, i read in the forums that someone fixed this by disabling on-board audio and using a PCI sound card. Rather than go that far, i tried updating the audio driver to the latest version from Realtek - 1.46 (ASRock's site only has version 1.41). That did the trick !! No more problems.

I didn't mean to imply that you should use a PCI card, just to try disabling the onboard audio for test. Your fix is better, I'll try it as soon as I get a chance.

---------
Here's a link to the drivers: (All 3 sites seem to be running at superslow dial-up speed. If anyone knows were the drivers can be downloaded faster please post)
Realtek drivers

 

[crystal]

Got this board to work "relatively" easy.

CPU: E6400 w/ retail HS
RAM: 2 x 512MB Geil Value DDR 400
Video: X850xt agp
PSU: True550
IDE: 2 80GB & 1 160 GB

Manually set CPU FSB to 295 Mhz
Manually set ram to DDR 200 MHz
Disable SATA Raid

 

[Orbitr8]

Just for the Archives:

My system is very very very stable, and very very very fast. (relative term, that, but it's over twice as fast as my x3400 s754)

Asrock 775Dual VSTA Bios v. 1.7 (1.3 from box) (could not flash from floppy, said file incomplete, so I had to chance it and use the winflash app, and that was flawless, phew)
e6400 Core 2 Duo @ 2321+ MHz (stock~2.13 MHz)
2 gigs of Corsair XMS DDR-400 {supposedly 2-3-3-8 (2 x 1024)} ~ [SPD says 3-3-3-8] ~ Running at 200 MHz setting @ 2.5-3-3-11-1 Dual Channel
Ram will NOT run at CAS2 no matter what speed or latencies
CPU speed: 295 (will run at 300, but not 305, so I backed it off a touch more)
Mem voltage set to high (whatever that is)
EVGA 6800XT unlocked halfway (the e6400 made BF2 play perfectly)
Single SATA drive, single PATA, 2- IDE burners, floppy
Front sound will not disable rear sound when you plug in, even though it's supposed to, kind of troublesome to keep unplugging to game or skype
Runs BurninTest repeatedly just fine, no errors. Does 1M SuperPI in 25 seconds. I can live with that.
CPU runs mid to high 30's C with Scythe Samurai hsf and a case with great airflow and side vent

Aside from spending many hours trying to get the SATA drive to work as a boot drive, and eventually giving up and using a Seagate 160 Gb IDE for the o/s, this is one of the best upgrades I've had the pleasure to own.
I even bought it a new case after getting it up and running in an old '97 Gateway tower case I've been reusing and reusing and reusing... lotsa holes in that puppy now...

If you don't have the bucks for a new Asus range board... there's nothing wrong with this if you can live with these limitations:

Max ram ~ 2 Gigs
SATA ~ 2 x 1.5 Gbs
PCI-e x 16 @ 4x
100 Mbit LAN

When there are some more motherboard choices in the area I can afford, I might upgrade again, but until then.. I'm pretty happy atm

 

[sanvara]

Originally posted by: Orbitr8


Aside from spending many hours trying to get the SATA drive to work as a boot drive, and eventually giving up and using a Seagate 160 Gb IDE for the o/s, this is one of the best upgrades I've had the pleasure to own.

I wonder why you are having a problem with SATA as a boot drive? I moved my SATA Raptor from another computer, formatted the C partition and reinstalled windows without any problems.

 

[sanvara]

Originally posted by: Mr Vain


GUY'S this Geil 667 MHz DDR2 Ram is incredible! No compatibility issues and runs out of the box by SPD at 3-3-3-9 1T Wow!
http://www.geilusa.com/proddetail.asp?linenumber=52

Pity that Anandtech did not try this ram out on their 775Dual-VSTA tests!
Tom?s hardware speaks highly of it. It achieved the highest overclocking margin of all their rams 41% and maxed out at DDR2 942Mhz
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/04/11/live_memory_test/page20.html

I have it now on 3-2-2-5 1T on auto voltage with no stability issues at all.
I hope its not late and that Gary can chuck in a couple of these Geil slabs in, for his last Asrock roundup and be very surprised by its performance.
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=3&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

:light:

Is this Geil Ram any good?

Geil 2Gb kit (2x1024) DDR2 PC-5300 667Mhz 4-4-4-12

(It's not the GX21GB5300LDC model linked above which is 5-5-5-15)

Found a place that has it priced really low for 2GB. Any particular reason why it's so cheap?

 

[Orbitr8]

Wow, Sanvera..

I was under the impression that a single SATA wouldn't work, I've been in touch with Asrock's limited tech support, but soon gave up on that idea, when I thought I interpreted what he wrote as, " You can only use SATA and IDE2 due to limitations in Intel/Via platform ".

That made absolutely no sense to me, and it was the first I'd heard of it.
Especially since I have an IDE drive on IDE1 and two burners on IDE2 and a SATA , and working ok.

It's a jumpered (for SATA1) SATAII Seagate 250 Gb perpendicular drive, and it formatted fine. It even installed windows from the CD. The problem was that at the first reboot, the system just sat there not seeing the drive as a boot drive, no indicator lights, no activity, no noise.

This is where I spent hours trying to figure it out:
Changed every related setting in the bios one at a time, rebooting, waiting, repeat cycle until every option has been checked and unchecked a few times.
Tried again swapping SATA ports.
Finally installed an IDE drive, set it as boot drive, and away we went.
Then I spent a few more installs of XP trying to get the SATA drive setup again, even as a dual boot, but it still wouldn't boot to it. Gave up and stuck with IDE as C: boot.

Maybe it's a defective board or drive, but the SATA works perfectly as a second drive, which I use for installing programs, games, the paging file, and some data.

I can live with this arrangement, not really wanting to wipe out drives and reinstall everything from scratch, only to find it might not be fixed and be in the same boat.
The benchmarks I've run on it are far above what I had before, and actually right up there with the big dogs in most of them, so overall I'm happy, yay.

I'd still buy this board again, although I see there are a few more cheapo choices using the VIA 800 chipset. This board, paired with an e6300 cheapie would be a nice little fast combo for most users, even power users.
I game once in awhile, and am happy with the 6800xt I have. It plays UT '04, BF2 just fine. Like a new vid card without overclocking it.

And the price of DDRII is a little off the wall, in my eyes. Does anyone REALLY see the speed difference in it ? Or am I missing something ? Does it allow you to overclock further or something ? For the price of that, I could have bought another step or two higher cpu, and still overclocked my ddr again.

~>|<~

 

[sanvara]

Originally posted by: Orbitr8
Wow, Sanvera..

I was under the impression that a single SATA wouldn't work, I've been in touch with Asrock's limited tech support, but soon gave up on that idea, when I thought I interpreted what he wrote as, " You can only use SATA and IDE2 due to limitations in Intel/Via platform ".

Well to be 100% accurate I moved an IDE DVD+R with two SATA Raptor drives over from another computer (not just a single SATA drive) and was able to format C:, install windows and boot off one of the SATA drives right away.

 

[Mr Vain]

Originally posted by: sanvara

Originally posted by: Mr Vain


GUY'S this Geil 667 MHz DDR2 Ram is incredible! No compatibility issues and runs out of the box by SPD at 3-3-3-9 1T Wow!
http://www.geilusa.com/proddetail.asp?linenumber=52

Pity that Anandtech did not try this ram out on their 775Dual-VSTA tests!
Tom?s hardware speaks highly of it. It achieved the highest overclocking margin of all their rams 41% and maxed out at DDR2 942Mhz
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/04/11/live_memory_test/page20.html

I have it now on 3-2-2-5 1T on auto voltage with no stability issues at all.
I hope its not late and that Gary can chuck in a couple of these Geil slabs in, for his last Asrock roundup and be very surprised by its performance.
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=3&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

:light:

Is this Geil Ram any good?

Geil 2Gb kit (2x1024) DDR2 PC-5300 667Mhz 4-4-4-12

(It's not the GX21GB5300LDC model linked above which is 5-5-5-15)

Found a place that has it priced really low for 2GB. Any particular reason why it's so cheap?

Mine is the Geil 5-5-5-15 and it?s excellent as far as I'm concerned, no compatibility issues stable etc, ohhh and it looks good the aluminium heat spreaders.

 

[cafukahn]

Greetings, this is my first post in this forum, so be kind

I'm think about getting this board with an E6300. To do a cheap upgrade from an Athlon 2800+ with a Biostar N7NCD Pro. I have this in an Enlight case that is 3-4 years old with the Enlight PS and an ATI 9000 AIW card that works fine for what I do. I mainly want to cut down video editing and comprssion times.

Here are my questions

Has anyone run this combo with a AIW 9000?

I'd like to use 1gb (2x512) Corsair Value Select PC-3200 that I have left from an Intel system, the 2800+ with the Biostar didn't like this memory at all, ran fine with a P4 3.0..

Lastly, what are the power requirements? Would my 350 watt enlight cut it? I have 2 ATA drives, DVD-RW + DVD-Rom. If not what is a decent cheap PS that is somewhat quiet, or can someone recommend a decent size case with a PS in it.

Thanks

 

[Orbitr8]

Hi, cafukahn....
You're kinda in the same boat I was. (and a lot of us) I had good ram, good vid card, just not 'new' tech.

I'd probably just get the motherboard and cpu and see if it works. If not, then start upgrading the other parts as needed.
You'll probably notice a difference in just motherboard/cpu update.

Your 9000 is a 4x, so that's compatible possibly.

You can test your ram pretty easy and quickly with Memtest. any errors, that's that for that, get new ram.

If you're not having psu issues now, you probably won't, if you're using the same components you have now. This cpu doesn't draw a lot of power, like our AMDs did. Unless you start putting new things in, like vid card, especially.

If you're not overclocking, as long as you have decent airflow, you should get by with the stock intel hsf.

This board (and others like it now) is a great crossover avenue. I really like mine, it's way fast, and for only $400 instead of the usual $800 and more Iusually spend in upgrades.

The price is right, you can afford to ebay them for what you paid for them, too, if you decide you don't like to go that fast.

(cuz, we all know, speed kills)

[Sanvara, sorry I got your name wrong up there... ;( ]

~>|<~

 

[sanvara]

Originally posted by: Mr Vain

Originally posted by: sanvara

Originally posted by: Mr Vain


GUY'S this Geil 667 MHz DDR2 Ram is incredible! No compatibility issues and runs out of the box by SPD at 3-3-3-9 1T Wow!
http://www.geilusa.com/proddetail.asp?linenumber=52

Is this Geil Ram any good?

Geil 2Gb kit (2x1024) DDR2 PC-5300 667Mhz 4-4-4-12

(It's not the GX21GB5300LDC model linked above which is 5-5-5-15)

Found a place that has it priced really low for 2GB. Any particular reason why it's so cheap?

Mine is the Geil 5-5-5-15 and it?s excellent as far as I'm concerned, no compatibility issues stable etc, ohhh and it looks good the aluminium heat spreaders.

I only had 1GB of DDR ram so I picked up the 2GB Geil DDR2 Ram Kit - PC-5300 667Mhz 4-4-4-12. It was only $139.

Am able to run it at 3-3-2-5 1T

The rest of the system is an E6600 o/c to E6700 speed (295 x 9), two 160GB 10k Raptors (SATA) and an X800XL AGP card with a SB X-Fi so I'm pretty happy with the speed and performance of this system right now. There seem to be no conflicts or issues with any of this hardware and the Asrock 775Dual-VSTA which seems pretty stable. I'm running the 1.80 bios.