ASRock 775Dual-VSTA

[Wildi]

What is the difference between Via Hyperion pro drivers and 4n1 drivers? Which one i should use?

 

[Jon Shannow]

Originally posted by: Orbitr8
I'm having issues with 12volt readouts. The last psu was a year old, it read 11.84 in the BIOS. and only 11.19 in any monitoring program I've tried. So, I bought a new Kamariki II 450 watt that reads 12.04 in the BIOS, and 11.31 in any monitoring program.
~k

I am getting the same with my NEO HE550, which was fine and stable on my old Mobo. Voltages seem low for me (similar to yours), however, seems stable... Oblivion still hasn't crashed after 6+ hours playing in a single session (a new record for me)...

 

[Mr Vain]

Originally posted by: Wildi
What is the difference between Via Hyperion pro drivers and 4n1 drivers? Which one i should use?

You want to use the Hyperion drivers for this chipset.

VIA Hyperion Pro drivers are suitable for ANY VIA chipset - but they are particularly recommended for KT4## series, P4X4## series and newer, for example:
K7 chipsets: KT400, KT400A, KT600, KT880, KM400, KN400
K8 chipsets: K8T800, K8T800Pro, K8M800, K8M890, K8N800, K8N890, K8T890, K8T890Pro, K8T900
P4 chipsets: P4X400, P4X400A, PT800, PT880, PM800, PN800, PM880, PN880, PT880Pro PT894, P4M800/Pro/CE, P4M900, PT890
C Series Chipsets: CN700, CN400, CLE266, CX700, VN800

4in1 drivers are for the chipsets that are in bold, older stuff.

Retro chipset VIA 4in1 drivers
VIA Hyperion 4in1 drivers are compatible with any VIA chipset. Performance, however, is optimized for the more recent and the latest chipsets. Therefore some users of slightly older or legacy chipsets report that using the older 4.43 drivers they experience a more responsive system.

The driver package below is recommended for use with the following chipsets: MVP#, Apollo Pro## series, KT1##, KN1##, KM1##, KT2##, KT333, KN2##, KM2##, P4X2##, P4X3##, P4M2##

 

[pdawg1717]

I can get to 295 with my board with my pc3200 ram...I can go a little higher with the "flexibility" setting to enabled but then I lose almost 1000 points on the sandra memory test...btw, does the memory frequency stay at 200 when you raise the fsb or does it go up too?

 

[aussieburger]

check your mem frequency with cpuz ... the mobo automatically changes the fsb : Dram ratio as you increase the fsb - check it with cpuz.

When you enabling the "flexibilty" setting you must manually set your memory timings and ram to ddr400 else the mobo changes them to something really slow (once again you can see with cpuz what it changes them to). That would explain the lower sandra memory test score

 

[pdawg1717]

Originally posted by: aussieburger
check your mem frequency with cpuz ... the mobo automatically changes the fsb : Dram ratio as you increase the fsb - check it with cpuz.

When you enabling the "flexibilty" setting you must manually set your memory timings and ram to ddr400 else the mobo changes them to something really slow (once again you can see with cpuz what it changes them to). That would explain the lower sandra memory test score

Thanks...I'll try that...I believe I had the memory set to ddr400 but I may not have had the timings set manually...

So there is no way to manually set the fsb : Dram ratio?

 

[burbel]

OK, time for me to hop in on this thread. I've got 2 775duals right now, one an RMA replacement from Newegg, but both show the same problems (and the new one has some other problems of it's own).

When I got the first motherboard, I had horrible RAM problems. Moving the timings to 4/4/4/12 with high voltage did the trick, no lockups, everything seemed good. Until I tried to install software. It turns out that I cannot write any data to any hard disk on this machine.

I have a new 320Gb seagate sata drive (jumpered for 1.5gb) as well as an older WD 120 gb drive. If I copy from partition A to partition B on the old IDE drive, the md5sums change. If I copy from the IDE to the SATA, md5sums change. If I try and install from a CD, I get corruption and the installer (World of Warcraft) craps out.

No overclocks (that I know of). 2.4Ghz Conroe, 2Gb DDR2-667 RAM (the Patriot memory that was reviewed with this board, but at standard speeds), an old 6800 Ultra AGP card. PC Power and Cooling 600W power supply.

I'm doing my fourth reinstall now, to see if anything has changed. But I am at my wit's end, both motherboards can't copy data to either hard drive, or even between partitions on the hard drive. Before I got the replacement motherboard, I was able to run SP2004 for over 12 hours with no problems (CPU and Memory in separate instances), as well as 3DMark2005.

Anyone? I tried removing the IDE drive, same problem installing software to SATA. I tried removing the SATA, can't copy between partitions on the old IDE drive.

Bleh.

 

[brianlam425]

i plan to buy this board for my budget core 2 build...but i've heard it doesnt last long what's your take on this?...i plan to use it for a few years at least...if it doesnt last, i'll go with an amd build instead to fit my budget instead

 

[aussieburger]

@pdawg1717: haven't found anyway to manually set it ... one of the limitations of this budget board

@burbel: I think I read something about that in one of the posts in this thread ... had something to do with changing the SATA and IDE priorities and the IDE drive strength ??

@brianlam425: bit too early for us to tell I think since this board has only been around a few months ... so far lasting well I'm only keeping mine until directx10 cards are available (and affordable) and ddr2 ram drops in price ... so another 6 months max I guess ... don't see why the board won't last until then.

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: brianlam425
i plan to buy this board for my budget core 2 build...but i've heard it doesnt last long what's your take on this?...i plan to use it for a few years at least...if it doesnt last, i'll go with an amd build instead to fit my budget instead

Don't even think about going to AMD now...you'll only be selling yourself short.
I don't even need to explain why I say this.

 

[dmgbois]

I am having the same problem as burbel.

 

[Heffty]

I would jump on this bandwagon so fast if the board accepted more than 2G ram. I also don't know about overclocking and don't want to screw things up...so I'd appreciate some people posting their bios settings and related hardware. If people started doing this it would end up reducing the number of repeated questions in this thread on a long term basis.

 

[nuke868]

quote:
Originally posted by: CKTurbo128
I, too, have been suffering freezing issues with my 775Dual-VSTA board. I cannot determine the exact cause of the problem, but I believe it may have something to do with the IDE & PCI buses. I have the following specs:

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
ASRock 775DUAL-VSTA (BIOS v1.70) - VIA Hyperion Pro Driver v5.09A
2 x G.Skill PC4000 1 GB DDR RAM
nVIDIA GeForce 7800 GS, AGP 8X
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro
Wireless G PCI Card
2 x Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300 GB SATA HDD (On onboard SATA connectors)
2 x Maxtor DiamondMax 11 300 GB SATA2 HDD (On Promise Tech. SATA 300 TX4 PCI SATA card)

I can repeat this problem quite easily. While installing a game or doing any heavy disk activity (i.e. copying files from CD/DVDs to HDD) and listening/watching music or movie files, the system will lock up with no chance of it getting to even the BSOD. However, the system never locks up when you install a game (or heavy disk activity) seperately by itself. Also, just listening/watching music or movies by itself will not lock up the system either.

I have tried multiple solutions suggested here, to disabling all onboard devices, testing minimal configurations, drive strength on normal-high, different RAM timings, different driver versions for devices, lower clock speeds, etc. I have even tried a re-format and re-installation of Windows XP, but I continue to run into the same problems. I have tested each device on another computer to verify integrity, and they all pass. I have run multiple tests of Memtest86+ and they have passed all tests successfully with multiple runs (never locks up, no errors).

Of course, all of these tests were done with no overclocking; I won't even consider overclocking until I can get the base system stable. Does anyone have any other ideas or solutions to this random freezing problem?




I have exactly the same problems, E6300 Dual Vsta a Single Mushkin 1GB 667 Module,and when I have got an high HD activity eg when unaring something i have got a BSOD usually 0x00000077 kernel_stack_inpage_error,bios 1.90 Now If i can solve this I d be pretty happy since with Flatout2 hours of gaming its works fine...
Damn would like to sort it out,btw I did try even 304fsb @ 2134mhz and it works fine but always the same heavy hard disk activity bug ? Still have to figure out tho how the fsb ratio works here... It was a lot easier with the old p4c800...
Thanks to everybody

775DUAL VSTA
E6300
1GB MUSHKIN 1GB 667
6800LE@6800GT
AUDIGY4
WIFI PCI
ETHERNET PCI
SAT DVB PCI
400W PSU
3 IDE HDS
1 IDE DVDRW
1SATA HD

Somebody help me coz m gettin nut Wonder if they have to release another bios since damn it isnt stable at all !
Heavy Hard Disks acess = BSOD !

 

[Kruiser]

Seriously Guys i have not had one single issue with this board i have

E6400@2.4Ghz
1Gig DDR400
1XPata 200Gig Maxtor Drive
1xPata 160 Segate Drive
6800xt@6800gt

Bios 1.90 Loving this board

Ambient
22c

Idle 41c
Load 51c

 

[aussieburger]

Could it have something to do with running both IDE and SATA drives that you guys having the problems with ? Does anyone running both not have problems ? If so was there a trick to it ? I'm thinking of getting a new SATA drive soon hopefully I won't then have the same problems ! (Currently with 2 IDE drives)

 

[Mr Vain]

Originally posted by: Heffty
I would jump on this bandwagon so fast if the board accepted more than 2G ram. I also don't know about overclocking and don't want to screw things up...so I'd appreciate some people posting their bios settings and related hardware. If people started doing this it would end up reducing the number of repeated questions in this thread on a long term basis.

That?s a very good idea, a complete Bios spread with the best settings values added in by research and consensus, maintained and expanded upon as new bios options are introduced.

Do we have someone with this capacity here in this thread?

If Anandtech Admin could take on this task for the most popular motherboards, it would make Anand the ultimate forum site!



Sent Email to Gary Key (Anandtech)

gary.key@anandtech.com

Hello Gary

Is it possible to create a BEST BIOS SETTINGS tab for the most popular motherboards in your main homepage?

A visual display of the actual Bios pages with the best values next to each setting.

Thanks

 

[pdawg1717]

Originally posted by: Kruiser
Seriously Guys i have not had one single issue with this board i have

E6400@2.4Ghz
1Gig DDR400
1XPata 200Gig Maxtor Drive
1xPata 160 Segate Drive
6800xt@6800gt

Bios 1.90 Loving this board

Ambient
22c

Idle 41c
Load 51c

Yo...what ddr400 memory are you using and what timings? I have the same cpu with 1 gig of ddr400 and can get to 297fsb...higher and I get stuck during post screen...

 

[jws2346]

Originally posted by: Mr Vain

Originally posted by: Heffty
I would jump on this bandwagon so fast if the board accepted more than 2G ram. I also don't know about overclocking and don't want to screw things up...so I'd appreciate some people posting their bios settings and related hardware. If people started doing this it would end up reducing the number of repeated questions in this thread on a long term basis.

That?s a very good idea, a complete Bios spread with the best settings values added in by research and consensus, maintained and expanded upon as new bios options are introduced.

Do we have someone with this capacity here in this thread?

If Anandtech Admin could take on this task for the most popular motherboards, it would make Anand the ultimate forum site!



Sent Email to Gary Key (Anandtech)

gary.key@anandtech.com

Hello Gary

Is it possible to create a BEST BIOS SETTINGS tab for the most popular motherboards in your main homepage?

A visual display of the actual Bios pages with the best values next to each setting.

Thanks

I second the motion

 

[Cheex]

:thumbsup:...Thirded...:thumbsup:

 

[arielp]

My 775Dual VSTA stable in my setup.
just updated to bios 1.90 (stock 1.10)
(i feel a slight longer in POST after updating to 1.90, but thats not an issue)

My Rig:

- 775Dual-VSTA
- PentiumD 805, running stock speed with stock Cooler.
- 2x256MB (PC2700) set to highest setting in all memory setup (eg. instead 2T i use 1T)
- Geforce FX 5200 Ultra 128MB (lag my gaming performace ), upgrade soon to 6200/7300
- 20GB Maxtor IDE
- Bunch of PCI cards.
(Lame setup eh?, hehehhehe, just mirate from AMD 2400+, so still using Old DDR, Old HDD, and Old AGP, just buying MB and Proc, only cost me 150USD [MB 50$, Proc 100$])


Rock stable so far. maybe with no overclocking, this board indeed "ASRock" Stable

mainly for photo editing, been happy so far...

in Sandra 2007. my rig equal to PentiumD 830 in Arithmatic and Multimedia (weird?, but happy )

in "Memory Bandwidth" score 3150MB/s in both aspect. (equal to PC3200, weird? but happy too hehehehe)

i love the onbard audio, superb clearity (compared to my old nForce1 audio)

such a good budget mobo

CPU Temp: idle 41-42 C
MB Temp: 34-35 C
Ambient Temp: around 25 C

oh yeah.. is there any way to make C1E working on 805? HW/SW Mod?

 

[hamltnh]

The BIOS database idea would be very useful--this thread convinced me to try the -775Dual VSTA board with a E6400 about a week ago and it has been an excellent upgrade. However, my practical experience with OC'ing is limited and the only thing I have tried to so far is upping the CPU frequency--got it to 288 (from stock 266), but anything much beyond results in it hanging during the boot with the hard disk drive light continuously on prior to the XP logo screen--any suggestions/further tutorials would be appreciated.

 

[pdawg1717]

Originally posted by: hamltnh
The BIOS database idea would be very useful--this thread convinced me to try the -775Dual VSTA board with a E6400 about a week ago and it has been an excellent upgrade. However, my practical experience with OC'ing is limited and the only thing I have tried to so far is upping the CPU frequency--got it to 288 (from stock 266), but anything much beyond results in it hanging during the boot with the hard disk drive light continuously on prior to the XP logo screen--any suggestions/further tutorials would be appreciated.

That's what mine does when I go above 297...what memory do you have? I think what happens for you (and me) is when the memory is holding you back...you could try slowing the memory timings (although it doesn't make a difference for me)...

 

[hamltnh]

I've got 2 x 1GB sticks of DDR2-667 RAM (Value RAM--nothing special) with the BIOS setting set to 667 (not Auto), but everything else RAM related set to Auto.

 

[andy318]

For what it's worth, i bought the 775Dual-VSTA to upgrade to Core 2 Duo without having to buy expensive RAM and a PCI Express video card.

I found out the hard way that my video card (ATI Radeon X800 Pro) is not compatible with the motherboard - XP would not load after the Catalyst driver was installed. I sold that on Craigslist and bought a 7800GTX. I then found out that i whenever i try to do somethings on my machine - like play a game or unzip a big file, it would just fail on me. During games, the machine would just lock up requiring me to press the reset button. During unzipping some big files, i would get CRC errors but the exact same file would unzip fine on my laptop. The latter problem made me suspect that my memory was not compatible with this motherboard either - OCZ4002048ELDCPE-K (2*1GB, 2-3-2-5, PC3200 DDR RAM). I tried all kinds of things - playing with the timings, changing DRAM voltage to high/low/normal, enabling/disabling memory flexibility but this intermittent problem persisted.

I finally gave up and sold the memory on Craigslist too and bought the Patriot PDC22G8000+XBLK memory (2*1GB, low latency PC2-8000 (1000MHz) memory). Now i have a stable machine with the following settings -
no overclocking (haven't tried that yet...probably won't), DDR2 667 dual channel, 3-3-3-8-2T, DRAM voltage - Auto, Memory flexbility - enabled (all kinds of memtest errors if this option is disabled), Spread spectrum - Disabled.

So much for saving money
I would not recommend this board to anyone. Any motherboard that works with a limited amount of graphics cards and memory is useless in my opinion. The headache of getting this thing working is not worth saving the money.

Anandtech - i would highly recommend that you try out boards with a few different cards and memory combinations to see how versatile it is. No use giving high marks to something that works with limited components (or at least warn people).

 

[Mr Vain]

Originally posted by: jws2346

Originally posted by: Mr Vain

Originally posted by: Heffty
I would jump on this bandwagon so fast if the board accepted more than 2G ram. I also don't know about overclocking and don't want to screw things up...so I'd appreciate some people posting their bios settings and related hardware. If people started doing this it would end up reducing the number of repeated questions in this thread on a long term basis.

That?s a very good idea, a complete Bios spread with the best settings values added in by research and consensus, maintained and expanded upon as new bios options are introduced.

Do we have someone with this capacity here in this thread?

If Anandtech Admin could take on this task for the most popular motherboards, it would make Anand the ultimate forum site!



Sent Email to Gary Key (Anandtech)

gary.key@anandtech.com

Hello Gary

Is it possible to create a BEST BIOS SETTINGS tab for the most popular motherboards in your main homepage?

A visual display of the actual Bios pages with the best values next to each setting.

Thanks

I second the motion

It appears that Anandtech has heard our collective need for a Bios Database (thanks Hamltnh) by Gary Key email response.

From: Gary Key [gary.key@anandtech.com]

Subject: Re: New (Best Bios) Tab

Hi S____
I will see what we can do in our reviews for further clarifying the bios settings we use.
Good suggestion.

Sincerely,
Gary

Thanks Gary for your quick and positive response, we all look forward to some implementation of this in Anandtech future reviews.