ASRock 775Dual-VSTA

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MIDIman

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I think someone else posted about having trouble with USB. Anyone else have this problem? Basically, when I plug in something like a thumbdrive, the drive will be show up in XP, but when clicking on it, you get "The disk in drive X is not formatted. Do you want to format it now?" I've tried the following tests, and all devices have been re-verified working perfectly fine on other computers.

I think this problem might've begun after upgrading the BIOS, but I'm just not sure. I'm at the latest BIOS version now.

USB mouse on motherboard's USB = works
keyboard on motherboard's USB = works
Evolution UC-33e on motherboard's USB = works

PNY 512mb thumbdrive on motherboard's USB = "Do you want to format it now?"
Crucial 2gb thumbdrive on motherboard's USB = "Do you want to format it now?"
Archos XS200 20gb on motherboard's USB = "Do you want to format it now?"
Thumbdrive in Dell 2405's USB ports = "Do you want to format it now?"
1gb SD card in Dell 2405's medicard ports = "Do you want to format it now?"
4gb SD card in Dell 2405's medicard ports = "Do you want to format it now?"
 

GODDEH

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Originally posted by: homonculus
GODDEH, you'll need to upgrade the bios (consensus suggests version 2.10 is best, and I agree) to get your new DDR2 working properly.

You must have formatted the HD incorrectly to get a smaller partition, no matter, you can get the other 100 GB by creating an extra partition in disk management.

You're right about the stock heatsink, took me about half an hour before I was happy with the fit. Dunno why the backplate didn't fit, must be that your case is not fully ATX compliant.

Updated my bios from 1.90 to 2.10 and its still the same. BIOS dislays the memory running in dual channel, all the right speeds etc etc. I've changed loads of setting from frq/volts/flex but once I leave the bios it hangs on a black screen, before xp starts.

Dunno what to do =[
 

homonculus

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GODDEH, is it possible that the DDR2 modules are not correctly installed, since you have already mounted the mobo in the case it can be very difficult to apply enough force to fully snap them in. Also make sure that you load the failsafe defaults in bios and then reboot before tinkering.

MIDIman, I know this sounds obvious, but is windows correctly reporting the capacity of your USB devices? If not then I suspect you're running USB 1.1 compatibility mode, which doesn't like devices bigger than 256MB.
 

GODDEH

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GODDEH, is it possible that the DDR2 modules are not correctly installed, since you have already mounted the mobo in the case it can be very difficult to apply enough force to fully snap them in. Also make sure that you load the failsafe defaults in bios and then reboot before tinkering.
I've double checked the memory is sat correctly but the same thing happens
 

bigsnyder

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@MIDIman

Are you using USB ports mounted on a case? I had trouble with my case's ports on the
front (only work as USB1.1), tried the ports directly on the backplane without problem.

C Snyder
 

mysh

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I got this motherboard about 10 days ago, as a stop gap updating my old s754 A64 3000+ to a C2D. It let me keep (some of) my DDR400 memory, and my 7800GS AGP. Quite a good board, for the money, though i miss my DFI lanparty.

Regarding the 8800 series incompatibilty, this isn't exactly Asrock's fault. 8800 GTS/GTX cards require an x16 PCI-E slot. As the 775dual-VSTA only has x4 PCI-E it's just not going to happen. Perhaps with the 8600 cards though, if they have less steep requirements.

I'm not sure why the 8800's require PCI-E x16, maybe someone can get nvidia to explain it. I do know that some fairly recent SLi motherboards can't run 8800's in SLi, because they use dual 8x PCI-E slots when in SLi mode (versus a single x16 slot in single card config), and again that's not enough for the 8800s.

The chap whose system isn't booting into windows. Could i guess that after the bios POST screen, you just see a blinking _ cursor on a black screen? I had the same issue with my hard disk when i upgraded to this board also. I also considered my ram was bugging out at first, so just to rule that out, burn this image to disk (in Nero you go to the menu: Recorder - Burn Image...):

http://www.memtest.org/download/1.65/memtest86+-1.65.iso.zip

Pop the burnt cd in your cd drive and set the bios to boot from cdrom. If you want to save some time finding out if your ram is unstable, then once it loads, press c - 3 - 5 - Enter, to run the test that will show up the slightest of instability.

Once your ram is given a clean bill, then you'll know you've got the same disk error that i hit. For some very odd reason the 775dual-VSTA didn't like the partition table or MBR on my XP hard disk from my old computer. Even though my old computer still worked fine with it. It'd just sit there with that blinking cursor after bios POST, literally getting nowhere and not even reaching the boot menu.

The MBR on your disk is the master boot record, it tells the computer where to boot the disk from. The partition table is like the name suggests, a table that describes the number of partitions, and their size and layout on the disk.

The solution is to wipe the disk totally. Get some kind of fdisk utility or plug the disk drive into another computer that works, and delete all the partitions on the disk, so that the whole disk comes up as "unallocated" in whatever software you use (If you have another XP machine to do this on, i suggest Control Panel - Administrative Tools - Computer Management, then go to Storage - Disk Management).

Then you can try re-installing XP on the now-empty disk. This should be enough to get both the XP install CD's "detecting hardware configuration" screen and/or the actual XP boot process past that blinking cursor.

Erasing the MBR is a bit trickier, but that might not be neccessary. One solution is to create a new partition, and set that new partition to "Active" or "Boot", then reboot, then delete the new partition. Another method is to install some kind of third party bootloader/bootmenu on the disk.

In case you're interested, i think the actual problem is the 775dual-VSTA sees disk geometry ever so slightly different, for some drives. most likely it can't properly read the MBR to boot the active partition. so the fix is to remove the partitions/MBR that has this board all confused, and then set up XP on the board so that the MBR and partition table get written in a way that the board likes.

Oh... i also have a question...

My own board is a bit strange for overclocking. Anything over 295 fsb causes the boot process to stop dead after detecting RAM, prior to detecting the disks drives. However at 295 FSB it's rock solid stable. The ram is fine, i can even lower timings below spec at 295fsb. So is this a chipset issue? Any special bios setting to get it past this strange 'step' at 296fsb that suddenly stops it POSTing. I know the ram and cpu have a fair bit of headroom left at 295fsb. bios is 2.10, spread spectrum disabled, the various drive strength's are default, speedstep disabled, ram voltage high. Everything else is optimal defaults. Single PCI card installed, an audigy 4, and removing it makes no difference. Any help appreciated.
 

pdawg1717

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Originally posted by: mysh
My own board is a bit strange for overclocking. Anything over 295 fsb causes the boot process to stop dead after detecting RAM, prior to detecting the disks drives. However at 295 FSB it's rock solid stable. The ram is fine, i can even lower timings below spec at 295fsb. So is this a chipset issue? Any special bios setting to get it past this strange 'step' at 296fsb that suddenly stops it POSTing. I know the ram and cpu have a fair bit of headroom left at 295fsb. bios is 2.10, spread spectrum disabled, the various drive strength's are default, speedstep disabled, ram voltage high. Everything else is optimal defaults. Single PCI card installed, an audigy 4, and removing it makes no difference. Any help appreciated.

My board does the same thing > 297fsb...it makes no difference if I lower the timings on my memory either...the cpu should not be limited at this speed should it (bad luck core)?

 

techwool

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Dec 23, 2006
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Originally posted by: TMS
Originally posted by: techwool

I've swapped over my PSU, going to give it one more go from a fresh install... If that doesn't work the X800XT is going on Ebay and I'll order an Nvidia card.

I'll post the results after I've tried it.

As i wrote earlier in this thread, my solution was to use older Catalyst version (5.11).
You might try that too. Just remember to clean out the newer drivers from the disk (delete the ati-folder from disk too).

Haven't had any other problems.


Right, I've installed Catalyst 5.11 drivers with limited success. My machine now boots into Windows about every 6th or 7th time. On these boots the pc runs sweet, I played a good hour of Half Life 2 today with no hiccups.

When the pc doesn't boot, it either gets stuck on the XP loading screen or freezes when it goes black just after the loading screen.

This is a very weird problem. Why does it only boot up on a non-random basis, yet when it does boot up its fine...
 

Luminair

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I skimmed the thread and everyone has problems over 266mhz. Which is fine, and expected -- this is a cheap motherboard with cheap components, and it isn't designed to have headroom to spare for overclocking. I've been over this before with motherboards in the past. You tread a fine line between stability and unpredictable errors when you push hardware like this beyond spec.

So get real -- if you want to overclock your Core 2 Duo any noticeable amount, this is not the motherboard to do it with.
 

homonculus

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Gee whizz Luminair (sic), this thread is for people who OWN and USE the 775Dual-VSTA, where did you come from?

If you check my sig you'll see that you're talking total nonsense and that a bit of work produces excellent results for so little money.

Now you get real and get your dad to go throw a load of money at your system and leave the rest of us living in the real world alone!

Techwool, you don't mention if you actually ever swapped the PSU, and if you did which one you used. A lot of the problems with overclocking ANY rig stem from junk PSU's. Unless you have a high quality ($100+) PSU you'll never be able to exclude it from instability issues.
 

techwool

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Techwool, you don't mention if you actually ever swapped the PSU, and if you did which one you used. A lot of the problems with overclocking ANY rig stem from junk PSU's. Unless you have a high quality ($100+) PSU you'll never be able to exclude it from instability issues.



Oops sorry... I put the beefier PSU in the problem pc which didn't yield any results.

Not sure if this makes any difference but I put the PSU in an 'already not good' copy of Windows XP installed. The only thing I've yet to try is to reformat with the new PSU in situ.


 

GODDEH

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Dec 15, 2006
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Pop the burnt cd in your cd drive and set the bios to boot from cdrom. If you want to save some time finding out if your ram is unstable, then once it loads, press c - 3 - 5 - Enter, to run the test that will show up the slightest of instability.
Ran the test and it seems to stop responding as soon as I get into the program, cant press C or Esc. Does it scan for awhile at the start (once the program loads)? It may have been scanning I dunno, need someone to confirm if this scans on load up. Or if I have to press c - 3 - 6 before the scan starts like in the above quote ^^

ScreenShot
 

MIDIman

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Originally posted by: bigsnyder
@MIDIman

Are you using USB ports mounted on a case? I had trouble with my case's ports on the
front (only work as USB1.1), tried the ports directly on the backplane without problem.

C Snyder

Actually - while I do have front USB hooked up - I've tried connecting all of the said devices to both the front and the ones resident directly on the motherboard.

I'm a bit annoyed that no one else has run into this...starting to wonder if its related to my XP installation. I mean what can I do to troubleshoot this?
 

nick5ter

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Dec 31, 2006
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OMG!!!! 2 friging DAYS with this mother board, had the problem with the ati drivers that others have been having problems with...

ive finally SOLVED IT!

i signed up just so i could tell ya's

i got a asus x800xtpe AGP card.

i flashed it to a different bios, the standard vanilla ATI bios for the xtpe

and it just works!!! :>

i really do hope this helps others!

the amount of crap i tired to get this working is just stupid they shouldnt make you go though all that, i almost bought a new card today lol
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
My board and C2D 6600 is now on the UPS truck to be delivered today. I've read the thread a couple time and downloaded all the appropriate drivers etc. I'm also going to do a clean install of 32 bit XP Pro, as its about time anyway I'll let you know how it goes.

Here's my setup:

C2D e6600
ASRock 775Dual-VSTA
OCZ PC2 5400 Gold 2gig
Nvidia AGP 6800 Ultra
Quantum Atlas 10k SCSI (for OS)
LSI Logic SCSI adapter PCI card
Western Digital Caviar 250 (for everything else) SATA

I went for this board because Im not really ready to spend 400 bucks on a new vid card So we'll see....

edit: Just as an FYI I noticed driver version 2.0 are out...gonna try em. If I have issues I'll probably fall back to 1.9 as most people seem to have luck with those

OK finally got everything installed and stable. Took a loooong time tho. Im not sure why my edit says 2.0 is out when 2.4 is actually what the newest BIOS is...guess it was a typo. Anyways. Board came with 1.8, and made a few tweaks per a few people's suggestions here. (As a side note, it booted right into my old Windows install lol I thought it was funny actually...but was as buggy as a night in a rain forest due to all the AMD crap in the file system). After a clean XP Pro install and driver update, my system would just...freeze. For no reason, and at different times. Sometimes it would be as windows was loading, sometimes 5 minutes into my session, somwtimes 20 minutes in. Mind you this is BEFORE I installed ANY 3rd party programs. I made tweaks here and there in BIOS, no change. Tried EVERY BIOS from 1.8 up to 2.4, same thing. Mind you I am now 13 hours into this and getting VERY VERY irritable lol. Im not really a newb at this, so I was getting really pissed lol. Time for a break...

took a 5 hour nap and had a meal lol.

I loaded BIOS 2.1, and pretty much set EVERYTHING to auto, with exception of AGP stuff, and set memory to DDRII 533. Everything else was AUTO. One by one I starting changing things to tweaks recommended here. When all was said and done I ended up with 289 FSB (2600mGhz), 1T memory timings, and stock memory latencies (4 4 4 12). Anything else I dont remember lol...I havent tried a higher FSB, as 2600 is perfectly fine for me, as I am a gamer and multimedia guy, and am not really a benchmark h0. Besides..anything more I *might* be able to get out of THIS board I really wont see a difference in everyday use

Ran Orthos stable for 13 hours...memtest stable 4 hours. 41 was highest temp with 40 average. No freezing. Loaded a few basic programs like antivirus, diskeeper defrag, anti spyware stuff, etc. I did have a little fun tho last night....ran 2 instances of Everquest, defragged two drives, and did a complete antivirus scan....at the same time...PERFECTLY! Man I love this processor! Anyway, thanks all for everyone's input as we muddle our way to stability with this board
 

bigsnyder

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@MIDIman

The only thing else I can think of is an issue with USB2.0 drivers not updating after SP2
is installed. The fix is documented on microsoft's site (the link is buried somewhere in this
thread). If you haven't already, go through the steps suggested at Microsoft to see if
this might help you.

C Snyder
 

GODDEH

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RMA'd my memory for full cash refund -_- will use my PC2700 for the time being

Cant seem to get the board to detect my sound blaster audigy 2 ZS, will keep messing about, see if i can get it working! ahhh easy life rebooting with a e6300 so quick!
 

Conky

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Originally posted by: nick5ter
OMG!!!! 2 friging DAYS with this mother board, had the problem with the ati drivers that others have been having problems with...

ive finally SOLVED IT!

i signed up just so i could tell ya's

i got a asus x800xtpe AGP card.

i flashed it to a different bios, the standard vanilla ATI bios for the xtpe

and it just works!!! :>

i really do hope this helps others!

the amount of crap i tired to get this working is just stupid they shouldnt make you go though all that, i almost bought a new card today lol
Back when I had this board I had to install Microsoft's latest NET thing and then I could install ATI drivers with no issue. This is a very easy hint for anybody having an issue with this board. I wish I had seen this hint when I had the board. Run driver cleaner, install MS Net 2.0 or whatever, and then the drivers and viola... bliss!

This ASRock 775Dual-VSTA board was a very good experience for me. It was extremely stable and it was easy to update BIOS with although I only did it a couple times... I am not one to do BIOS updates lightly.

Now that I have had roughly a week with my new Gigabyte DS3 mobo, I almost wish I had just saved my money and stuck with this extremely solid board, almost.

Now running a DS3 stably at 3.2Ghz but the overclock is not as exciting as I thought it would be nor as exciting as it was to go from a P4-3.06 Northwood w/HT to an E6400 and this ASRock board. Definitely diminishing returns. Once you have a C2D at 2.13 one at 3.2 is almost no improvement... you are going from very fast to very very fast and in most cases you won't see the diff. That's my 2 cents anyway.
 

nick5ter

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i dont think u understand, the problem doesnt seem to affect all ati users, but just a few with certain agp cards., as ive said what i did has solved the problem for good and should do the same for others... that are experiancing problems of this nature.
 

Conky

Lifer
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Originally posted by: nick5ter
i dont think u understand, the problem doesnt seem to affect all ati users, but just a few with certain agp cards., as ive said what i did has solved the problem for good and should do the same for others... that are experiancing problems of this nature.
I had an ATI AGP X850XT and I had no problems at first. I thought it was "other people's random problems" too.

But, when I ran driver cleaner and went to install the new drivers, I was screwed. So I offered up my experience because I know it will help someone.

Remember to run the MS Net thing if you are an ATI AGP user who has problems installing new drivers with this board.

 

nick5ter

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well this problem was kinda narrowed down to one thing, when windows starting it would freeze.... the primary ati display card would fail to initialize. donno why but seems a few cards have slightly different configurations in there bios that makes this difference
 

Luminair

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Originally posted by: homonculus (sic)
this thread is for people who OWN and USE the 775Dual-VSTA, where did you come from?

I own and use one too, so your inventory of my hardware is not accurate.

I'm just offering pragmatic advice here. Some people get lucky, some don't. This motherboard has a very low ceiling for overclocking compared to other boards, that is a fact. People should know that the hours they may spend working for a couple hundred extra megahertz might be better spent elsewhere. Especially when they are running things like 6800s and 7800s that bottleneck the performance of their favorite games*, even with a "slow" stock e6300.

*(Using Oblivion, see how a card much faster than a 7800GS (7900GTX) is easily bottlenecked by a FX-60, which is very similar in speed to a e6300: http://www.gamespot.com/features/6153900/p-2.html )

Spend your time wisely because you have nothing more valuable.
 

homonculus

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Originally posted by: Luminair
Originally posted by: homonculus (sic)
this thread is for people who OWN and USE the 775Dual-VSTA, where did you come from?

I own and use one too, so your inventory of my hardware is not accurate.

I'm just offering pragmatic advice here. Some people get lucky, some don't. This motherboard has a very low ceiling for overclocking compared to other boards, that is a fact. People should know that the hours they may spend working for a couple hundred extra megahertz might be better spent elsewhere. Especially when they are running things like 6800s and 7800s that bottleneck the performance of their favorite games*, even with a "slow" stock e6300.

*(Using Oblivion, see how a card much faster than a 7800GS (7900GTX) is easily bottlenecked by a FX-60, which is very similar in speed to a e6300: http://www.gamespot.com/features/6153900/p-2.html )

Spend your time wisely because you have nothing more valuable.

Perhaps you would like to save your obviously extremely valuable time and avoid posting unless you have something useful to contribute, perhaps garnered from your wide experience with this board. Luminair has an 'e' on the end hence the use of sic after your mis-spelling, homonculus however IS spelt correctly (also homunculus) rendering your sic superflous. Happy New Year.
 

tcsenter

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Is it the best overclocking motherboard? Of course not, but for $70.00 ~ $75.00 shipped, this motherboard is spanking some boards out there in the $120 range, and holding its own with some boards in the $150 range. And lest we forget, there is really not much point to this board if you aren't trying to squeeze some extra life from an AGP card or DDR1 that someone may have spent a lot of money on. The solution you suggest would require PCI-E and DDR2 out of the gate.

I'm not sure why it is so difficult for some to understand the market for this board. If everyone wanted (or could afford to) go PCI-E and DDR2 right off, this board would have faded away long ago before the "-VSTA" respin, as would have the 939Dual-VISTA.

If someone's priority is +300MHz FSB or bust, then of course they should look elsewhere because they are ready to spend whatever it costs to get it. But as long as that priority is lower than saving some money, running Conroe, and keeping AGP or DDR1 that someone may have spent a load on, 775Dual-VSTA is the only thing going (and it could be worse at that!).
 
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