ASRock 775Dual-VSTA

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doramjan

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Does anyone know if the ASRock 775dual-vsta supports Core 2 Duo E6850 cpus?

The 1333 MHz FSB probably isn't supported, but would it work at 1066 MHz?

What kind of speed boost would you see over an E6300 if the E6850 were running at 1066 MHz?
 

bigsnyder

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There is no reason why the e6850 wouldn't run at 1066FSB. The e6850 would
still be an improvement since it will essentially be a e6600 (2.4Ghz) at 1066fsb.
It is just a matter of the system posting because of a CPU it doesn't recognize,
unless someone knows for sure, it is a big question mark.
 

Modelworks

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It may be possible to bios flash with the 4CoreDual-VSTA bios and then you can use the quad core. I have read about this being done in an NCIX forum awhile back now.
Know that this may be risky.

I'm going to wait for someone else to do this
I'm thinking there was more involved than a bios flash for asrock to release a new motherboard with quad core support.
 

Raikku

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And here we go again, i just read from some forum that 8800-series cards works now with 775Dual-Vsta, since 158.22 forcewares,
could anyone here confim this ?

Because if it really is so, i can buy GTS(maybe 640Mb) now and use it with my ASRock, and then buy other/better mobo in the future.

I prefer Nvidia over ATI.
 

bigsnyder

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There are a few folks in the 4CoreDual-VSTA thread that are running 8800 series cards. Might have read that one of them is using
the 775Dual-VSTA with a 8800.
 

Mr Vain

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Originally posted by: Raikku
And here we go again, i just read from some forum that 8800-series cards works now with 775Dual-Vsta, since 158.22 forcewares,
could anyone here confim this ?

Because if it really is so, i can buy GTS(maybe 640Mb) now and use it with my ASRock, and then buy other/better mobo in the future.

I prefer Nvidia over ATI.


Asrock VGA support list.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/vga.a...del=775Dual-VSTA&s=775

NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTS MSI NX8800GTS/320M 158.19

This thread page 69

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...AR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear


:thumbsup:
 

Budarow

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Okay peeps...I finally decided to order this mobo from Newegg along with a boxed Pentium D 925 proc from Fry's for a total of $129.00. I plan to use my pre-existing parts to include:

1. X800XT AGP video card
2. 1GB of Simpletech DDR1 433MHz RAM
3. 2 HDs (one 500 GB and one 120 GB both Maxtor)
4. Antec case with 380W PS

I also plan to OC a bit (~300-400 MZh) provided the temps don't get 2 crazy under load with this already infamous mini-toaster oven proc. Any suggestions and/or does anyboby see any conflicts other than the PS may be a bit underwhelming?

Thanks,

KL
 

Raikku

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I wrote to ASrock and they confirmed that 8800 works now on this board;

Dear Sir,

NVIDIA 8800 series VGA card is now able to work with 775Dual-VSTA with the latest VGA driver.

Also 2900XT worked fine under Windows XP. But so far, due to ATi driver issue, it does not work with Windows Vista now.

Thanks for the email.

Yours truly,

ASRock"

This is great news, now i can buy 8800 Gts, Zotec seems to be cheapest here in Finland, only 335 euros for 640Mb model.
 

Budarow

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Originally posted by: Raikku
I wrote to ASrock and they confirmed that 8800 works now on this board;

Dear Sir,

NVIDIA 8800 series VGA card is now able to work with 775Dual-VSTA with the latest VGA driver.

Also 2900XT worked fine under Windows XP. But so far, due to ATi driver issue, it does not work with Windows Vista now.

Thanks for the email.

Yours truly,

ASRock"

This is great news, now i can buy 8800 Gts, Zotec seems to be cheapest here in Finland, only 335 euros for 640Mb model.

This is very good news, but how badly would performance decrease due to 4x PCI-E? I've done a few google searches lately trying to find some "new" real world performance information using this board and "higher end" video cards but to no avail. The benchtesting websites seem to think buyers of this "value" mobo only buy low end video cards.

EDIT...just read a thread post indicating use of this mobo would decrease video game performance with an 8800 series card ~5-15% due to 4x PCI-E bandwidth. Any comments?

Budarow

 

Raikku

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Of course i plan to buy other board in the future, but its good to know that i can use better Vgas already.

In this thread(or in 4Core Dual-thread) or in some other board, some guy said that he get around 7200-7300p from '06, i don't remember which processor he had.

But if we talk about 10-15% loss, 8800Gts 640 get usually over 10 500p/'06 in those tests, so i would expect in my case results around 8000-9000p(?)
And if that's true, its huge difference when compared my present, around 5600p situation.

 

Budarow

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15% seems like a HUGE drop in performance, but it should still only make a difference at the "margins". If I'd get a minimum of 45 FPS in a game using 16x PCI-E, I'll take a minimum of 38 FPS with this mobo using 4x PCI-E.

 

Mr Vain

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4CoreDual-VSTA And 775Dual-VSTA Overclocking Guide

R. B. Inc.

http://forum.ncix.com/forums/i...erclockid=0#msg1311291
Here's a little guide of mine, compiled from information I collected from multiple reviews, forum threads, blogs, etc. It is intended for the ASRock 4CoreDual-VSTA or ASRock 775Dual-VSTA, but you may find other motherboards with the same options to modify.

The point of this review is to allow users of said boards to get more speed out of their inexpensive value motherboards. Just because you paid a fraction of the price as other boards, which you certainly did, does not mean you have to settle for less, although you will ultimately settle for less, just not as less as many people would have you believe. This guide will allow you to get more bang-for-buck. Of course, having either of the boards is a major setback for overclocking enthusiasts, if you consider yourself to be one, then you chose the wrong board.

This guide will help owners with both DDR or DDR2 memory, as well as both AGP or PCI-E cards, as well as both SATA and/or IDE Drive users.


BIOS OPTIONS

Modifying BIOS options may be very dangerous, and, if configured incorrectly, may lead to a nonfunctional board. Make sure you know what you're doing before proceeding further, or get some help.

*This guide assumes you have the latest BIOS update: 2.60*
*All BIOS Options mentioned are found under the Advanced tab*
*Options are for Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quad processors*

CPU Configuration:

>>Overclock Mode
-Set to: CPU, PCIE, Async
-Info: This setting determines whether or not the BIOS automatically sets your FSB, PCI, and PCIE frequencies. Setting to Async allows you to manually modify the PCIE frequency, setting to Sync automatically increments or decrements the PCIE depending on your FSB.

>>CPU Frequency(MHz)
-Info: This is essentially your Front side bus (FSB) speed. You have to stress-test different speeds to try and figure out what speed suits you fine.
-Note: The speed you choose will affect your memory speed and divider setting.
-Note: You should only increment in small 1-5 MHz steps and check for stability.

>>PCI Frequency(MHz)
-Set to: 34.78
-Info: You can set your PCI bus speed here. It really doesn't have any effect on your PCI devices unless you set the value too high or too low.
-Note: Setting the PCI speed to very high values will damage any PCI components you may have installed.

>>PCIE Frequency(MHz)
-Set to: 117-120
-Info: You can set your PCIe bus speed here. It really doesn't have any effect on your PCIe devices unless you set the value too high or too low.
-Note: Only modify the PCIe speed if you do not have a PCIe card, as modifying the PCIe speed will damage your PCIe card.

>>Spread Spectrum
-Set to: Disabled
-Info: This setting, when enabled, reduces the EMI of your FSB by modulating the signals it produces. This should definitely be disabled if you want to overclock your FSB, as it is the cause of many stability issues and crashes.
-Note: If you are not overclocking your FSB, you should still disable this, unless you really need to safeguard yourself from EMI problems.

>>Boot Failure Guard
-Set to: Disabled
-Info: I'm not sure why, but people have reported less instability if this is turned off on overclocked machines. If enabled, this simply checks for issues with your overclock, and if there is an issue, it will reset or revert your clock settings to optimal values on a crash.
-Note: This may potentially be useful for you to keep enabled if you are unsure about your overclocking skills.


If you have any questions, suggestions, or comments, please post them here, or ask for my email.

[Still under construction]

This message was modified by the poster at 04 02, 2007 10:56 PM

Topic URL: http://forum.ncix.com/forums/topic.php?id=1311291
 

Raikku

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But if you se that boot failure guard to off, what happens when pc doesn't boot due wrong oc, does it still work after when you reboot and go to bios?

Otherwise i have pretty much same settings, expect i use now sync-mode, 'cause my memorys are in 533-mode(they are 800Mzh DDR2).
 

solaris

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Did anybody tried :
- 4CoreDual-VSTA or
- 4CoreDX90-VSTA

Also curious what Memory is better : DDr-400 or DDR2-667 ?

because 4CoreDual-VSTA supports DDR2-667
and 4CoreDX90-VSTA supports DDR-400

so it looks like 4CoreDX90-VSTA is cheap version of 4CoreDual-VSTA
 

Mr Vain

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Originally posted by: Raikku
But if you se that boot failure guard to off, what happens when pc doesn't boot due wrong oc, does it still work after when you reboot and go to bios?

Otherwise i have pretty much same settings, expect i use now sync-mode, 'cause my memorys are in 533-mode(they are 800Mzh DDR2).

You will most likely have to clear CMOS and reboot to standard settings.
 

Mr Vain

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Originally posted by: solaris
Did anybody tried :
- 4CoreDual-VSTA or
- 4CoreDX90-VSTA

Also curious what Memory is better : DDr-400 or DDR2-667 ?

because 4CoreDual-VSTA supports DDR2-667
and 4CoreDX90-VSTA supports DDR-400

so it looks like 4CoreDX90-VSTA is cheap version of 4CoreDual-VSTA

DDR2 667Mhz is slightly better memory with this board running at 533Mhz 1.1.

If you want to know about 4CoreDual-VSTA look thru this thread below.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...AR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear
 

phial

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Originally posted by: Mr Vain
In my opinion 256Mb with all that stuff running in the background seems to me to be a bit undersized inviting potential problems like yours.

using less ram will not cause a PC to become unstable, as long as the ram is good. it will slow it down alot, yes, due to the hard drive constantly moving data back and forth between the ram and the page file, but as long as there is enough total virtual memory, it will not affect stability.
 

filipinoazn

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I just installed this motherboard and i've been having some problems, i was wondering if anyone could help me.

I installed windows Xp pro and everything went fine. I plugged in my razer mouse via usb and it worked. But when i plugged in a usb thumbdrive, it wouldn't recognize it. I tried another one but it wouldn't work either. Anyone know whats going on?
 

JustaGeek

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What BIOS version are you using...? Flash to 2.7, I know that one of the earlier versions (2.1, 2.2 or 2.4) dealt with USB issues.
 

Piblokto

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I pulled my E6600 from this board and put that into my new Abit IP35. Want to put a cheaper CPU into the ASRock board, and will OC if possible -- is the E4400 still the best bang for the buck for OC'ing on this board?
 

Mr Vain

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Originally posted by: Piblokto
I pulled my E6600 from this board and put that into my new Abit IP35. Want to put a cheaper CPU into the ASRock board, and will OC if possible -- is the E4400 still the best bang for the buck for OC'ing on this board?

In the E4XXX series price /performance wise yes it would have to be close.
There is the new E4500 that has a higher multiplier of 11 compared to the 10 of the E4400 and a new more power efficient M0 stepping.
This new higher multiplier should give you an extra 300Mhz if your Motherboard can reach the average 300FSB. If you wait to Q4 then you will have the E4600 with a higher multiplier of 12.
If you want a real cheap chip perhaps the best bang for the buck then the E2XXX series is for you with one MB CPU cache. E2140 E2160 or soon to be released this month E2180 chips are real good performers check the review below, there?s not much in it and if you overclock your ahead of much pricier chips.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl...lay/pentium-e2160.html

 

Gary Canuck

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I recently upgraded to the 2.90 bios and for some reason my E6600 is now clocking at 2.31 GHz instead of 2.4 GHz according to CPU-Z and the System area in XP. Any ideas on how to correct this? Thanks.
 

jogiba

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I pulled my 1GB (2- 512mb ) DDR333 and put in 2GB (2-1GB) DDR2 667 PC5300 Kingston RAM with 2.9 Bios and it runs great. I wish it had 4 DDR2 memory slots since the 1GB DDR2 RAM sticks are so cheap.
 
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