ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 - Socket 939 with PCI-E and real AGP and Socket AM2 upgrade path

[poohbear]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: Fam Money

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: Fam Money
For those that still want to purchase this board it's still in stock at eWiz.
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-939DUAL

I ordered the board and a 3000 from them, too bad it won't be here till Tuesday. I should have sprung for the UPS 3 day.

:thumbsup: I have that link in the original post now.

Cool.

Well since you posted about Abit and Gigabyte coming out with boards you can add Jetway. It kinda looks like theirs will be out sooner rather than later.
http://www.ocworkbench.com/ocwb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/32/2.html

i'll definetly be interested in the mobo from jetway, their NF4 mobo was a fierce overclocker in AN review!

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Originally posted by: poohbear

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: Fam Money

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: Fam Money
For those that still want to purchase this board it's still in stock at eWiz.
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-939DUAL

I ordered the board and a 3000 from them, too bad it won't be here till Tuesday. I should have sprung for the UPS 3 day.

:thumbsup: I have that link in the original post now.

Cool.

Well since you posted about Abit and Gigabyte coming out with boards you can add Jetway. It kinda looks like theirs will be out sooner rather than later.
http://www.ocworkbench.com/ocwb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/32/2.html

i'll definetly be interested in the mobo from jetway, their NF4 mobo was a fierce overclocker in AN review!

Heh. You mean AT? .

 

[Fam Money]

Originally posted by: route66
$68 seems to good to be true - so what's missing? Did they use quality capacitors? How is the on-board sound?

PS - out of stock again at Newegg. Hehe.

I seen people saying the audio chip was so-so. I also found a blurb about the caps on another forum. I take it they are "good" caps.

The components on the board look high quality, i see it uses Rubycon caps.

Source
http://whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/392744.html

*Edit*
Seems Rubycon cpas are good.

Also, we should take a moment to applaud the Fatal1ty AN8's use of high-end Rubycon capacitors. Japanese-made Rubycon capacitors were largely immune to the cap-bursting problems that plagued Taiwanese-manufactured caps several years ago, and having them on-board should give users a little extra peace of mind.

Source
http://www.abit-usa.com/news/2005/20050328.php

 

[The Pentium Guy]

The components on the board look high quality, i see it uses Rubycon caps.

Rubycon caps are good.

Edit: I completely skipped over the 2nd part of your post, sorry.

 

[karelia138]

The capacitors aren't Rubycon, Rubycons have a 'K' shaped stamp. I see a few Chemi-Cons(good), but the rest look like OST(very bad). Asus used OST's on their first run of 9xx boards and 9 months later my office has replaced 4 out of 10 for blown caps. I'm not sure why some companies still don't get it, but I guess for $68 you could just buy two of them. Pics from a similar issue:

http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=843

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Originally posted by: karelia138
The capacitors aren't Rubycon, Rubycons have a 'K' shaped stamp. I see a few Chemi-Cons(good), but the rest look like OST(very bad). Asus used OST's on their first run of 9xx boards and 9 months later my office has replaced 4 out of 10 for blown caps. I'm not sure why some companies still don't get it, but I guess for $68 you could just buy two of them. Pics from a similar issue:

http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=843

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131508
What the hell is ASUS doing putting crappy caps on a $150 board?

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy

Originally posted by: karelia138
The capacitors aren't Rubycon, Rubycons have a 'K' shaped stamp. I see a few Chemi-Cons(good), but the rest look like OST(very bad). Asus used OST's on their first run of 9xx boards and 9 months later my office has replaced 4 out of 10 for blown caps. I'm not sure why some companies still don't get it, but I guess for $68 you could just buy two of them. Pics from a similar issue:

http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=843

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131508
What the hell is ASUS doing putting crappy caps on a $150 board?

Interesting, I wonder if there's any more information out there about this. I hope it's not the case, but I will keep this in mind.

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Quote from forum you (karelia) linked to:

Blown capacitors smell bad. I learned this in physics class when I accidentally reversed the polarity on an electrolytic capacitor and it sprayed all over the place! That dramatic effect won't happen probably but looks like you're in trouble

Sounds fun.
:thumbsup:

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy

Originally posted by: karelia138
The capacitors aren't Rubycon, Rubycons have a 'K' shaped stamp. I see a few Chemi-Cons(good), but the rest look like OST(very bad). Asus used OST's on their first run of 9xx boards and 9 months later my office has replaced 4 out of 10 for blown caps. I'm not sure why some companies still don't get it, but I guess for $68 you could just buy two of them. Pics from a similar issue:

http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=843

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131508
What the hell is ASUS doing putting crappy caps on a $150 board?

Interesting, I wonder if there's any more information out there about this. I hope it's not the case, but I will keep this in mind.

I'm gonna get cracking on some info on this, I always thought bulging caps were an issue of the past.

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy

Originally posted by: karelia138
The capacitors aren't Rubycon, Rubycons have a 'K' shaped stamp. I see a few Chemi-Cons(good), but the rest look like OST(very bad). Asus used OST's on their first run of 9xx boards and 9 months later my office has replaced 4 out of 10 for blown caps. I'm not sure why some companies still don't get it, but I guess for $68 you could just buy two of them. Pics from a similar issue:

http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=843

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131508
What the hell is ASUS doing putting crappy caps on a $150 board?

Interesting, I wonder if there's any more information out there about this. I hope it's not the case, but I will keep this in mind.

I'm gonna get cracking on some info on this, I always thought bulging caps were an issue of the past.

Awesome, if you find anything I'll update the OP with relevant info :thumbsup:

Edit: And yeah, I thought it was a thing of the past too. Didn't realize that there may still be boards using cheap crappy caps out there after all the problems (and backlash) in the past.

 

[karelia138]

Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
I'm gonna get cracking on some info on this, I always thought bulging caps were an issue of the past.

So did I, but you have Chaintech/BFG using Luxon(worst of the worst), ECS/Asus using OST, and Epox using Teapo/Hermei. Abit is the only company to commit to all Japanese across the board. DFI does on most of their boards, and MSI/Gigabyte have what I'd consider an acceptable Japanese to crap ratio. Asus is all over the place, their OEM boards that end up in HP's or Gateways use almost all Japanese, their retail boards are a crapshoot. I've seen identical A8N SLI Deluxe v1.02 boards, one retail and one pulled from a system(Falcon or Hypersonic or similar), the OEM was all Chemi-con and the retail had a lot of Ltecs(junk).

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: nemesismk2
I've had my Asrock 939 Dual Sata2 since wednesday and I am impressed with it's performance and stability, it's certainly much better than the nf3 motherboard it replaced.

Cool...what CPU are you running on it? Any more details/experiences would be appreciated (since it appears you're the only one in this thread to have the board already, so far).

I am using a a64 3000 venice with this motherboard because it's just for general use. All I can say is that the board was very easy to install and it worked perfectly right from the start.

Some tiny problems I noticed but nothing to worry about.:-

1. I don't really like where they have positioned the atx power connector because I now have wires almost touching my cpu cooler.

2.The PCI slot 3 is too close the floppy connector so I had to move my modem to another slot.

3.Would of prefered the cpu fan connector to be placed on the right of the motherboard.

 

[nemesismk2]

Why is everyone so hung up on capacitors? Since 2003 I've so far owned a Asrock K7S8X, Asrock K7S8XE+, Asrock K8 Upgrade 760 GX and now a Asrock 939 Dual Sata2. I have never had any asrock motherboard failures and the K7S8X is still being used every day by my brother and it was bought in 2003. Remember that Asrock are not Abit so don't worry about dodgy capacitors!

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: nemesismk2

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: nemesismk2
I've had my Asrock 939 Dual Sata2 since wednesday and I am impressed with it's performance and stability, it's certainly much better than the nf3 motherboard it replaced.

Cool...what CPU are you running on it? Any more details/experiences would be appreciated (since it appears you're the only one in this thread to have the board already, so far).

I am using a a64 3000 venice with this motherboard because it's just for general use. All I can say is that the board was very easy to install and it worked perfectly right from the start.

Some tiny problems I noticed but nothing to worry about.:-

1. I don't really like where they have positioned the atx power connector because I now have wires almost touching my cpu cooler.

2.The PCI slot 3 is too close the floppy connector so I had to move my modem to another slot.

3.Would of prefered the cpu fan connector to be placed on the right of the motherboard.

Thanks for the info. Those are pretty minor issues.

Originally posted by: nemesismk2
Why is everyone so hung up on capacitors? Since 2003 I've so far owned a Asrock K7S8X, Asrock K7S8XE+, Asrock K8 Upgrade 760 GX and now a Asrock 939 Dual Sata2. I have never had any asrock motherboard failures and the K7S8X is still being used every day by my brother and it was bought in 2003. Remember that Asrock are not Abit so don't worry about dodgy capacitors!

As long as it's stable, that's all that matters. Let us know if you have any more experiences to share with the board, good or bad. :thumbsup:

 

[Bullhonkie]

Anyone know if the currently popular larger heatsinks (XP-120 and 7700 mainly) have any fitment problems on this board?

 

[touchmyichi]

yeah, i'm wondering on XP-120 as well.

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: nemesismk2

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: nemesismk2
I've had my Asrock 939 Dual Sata2 since wednesday and I am impressed with it's performance and stability, it's certainly much better than the nf3 motherboard it replaced.

Cool...what CPU are you running on it? Any more details/experiences would be appreciated (since it appears you're the only one in this thread to have the board already, so far).

I am using a a64 3000 venice with this motherboard because it's just for general use. All I can say is that the board was very easy to install and it worked perfectly right from the start.

Some tiny problems I noticed but nothing to worry about.:-

1. I don't really like where they have positioned the atx power connector because I now have wires almost touching my cpu cooler.

2.The PCI slot 3 is too close the floppy connector so I had to move my modem to another slot.

3.Would of prefered the cpu fan connector to be placed on the right of the motherboard.

Thanks for the info. Those are pretty minor issues.

Originally posted by: nemesismk2
Why is everyone so hung up on capacitors? Since 2003 I've so far owned a Asrock K7S8X, Asrock K7S8XE+, Asrock K8 Upgrade 760 GX and now a Asrock 939 Dual Sata2. I have never had any asrock motherboard failures and the K7S8X is still being used every day by my brother and it was bought in 2003. Remember that Asrock are not Abit so don't worry about dodgy capacitors!

As long as it's stable, that's all that matters. Let us know if you have any more experiences to share with the board, good or bad. :thumbsup:

Right. You can't always go by brand name (ex: what if Rubycon made a bad batch of capacitors, what if OST changed their company's direction) - as long as there's no outburst of exploding caps I think it'll be good.

Edit: Also, as for longevity, most people don't even keep their computers that long. For me it's 3 years max (but I usually upgrade every 2 years) and I put a whole new box together.

 

[nemesismk2]

Here are a few game benchmark results:-

asrock 939 dual sata 2 (uli m1695)
athlon64 3000 venice 1.8ghz 939

gigabyte k8ns pro nf3 250 gb (nforce3 250)
athlon64 2800 1.8ghz 754

msi geforce 6600 gt (v77.77 drivers)

benchmark results:-

(asrock 939 dual sata 2, gigabyte k8ns pro)

comanche4 = 60, 55
doom 3 = 108, 98
quake3 = 424, 364
scrapland = 137, 136
tribes vengenace = 122, 115
unreal tournament 2004 = 132, 117
warhammer 40k dawn of war = 94, 87
xpand rally = 67, 60

 

[nemesismk2]

Some interesting news is that on OCW they are looking for people to beta test a new bios which according to Bluetooth from OCW has "very interesting options"

 

[FirNaTine]

I have my board up and running now. I am still tidying up the software updates and such, but so far I have had no problems with the install and configuration of the board. I am running an X2 4200, 2x 1 gig OCZ platinum, and an AGP 6800gt on the board. The only tweak I had to make was the board defaulted to slow speed/ loose timings on the ram. I manually put it to the rated settings and it has been running fine since.

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: nemesismk2
Here are a few game benchmark results:-

asrock 939 dual sata 2 (uli m1695)
athlon64 3000 venice 1.8ghz 939

gigabyte k8ns pro nf3 250 gb (nforce3 250)
athlon64 2800 1.8ghz 754

msi geforce 6600 gt (v77.77 drivers)

benchmark results:-

(asrock 939 dual sata 2, gigabyte k8ns pro)

comanche4 = 60, 55
doom 3 = 108, 98
quake3 = 424, 364
scrapland = 137, 136
tribes vengenace = 122, 115
unreal tournament 2004 = 132, 117
warhammer 40k dawn of war = 94, 87
xpand rally = 67, 60

Awesome :thumbsup:

Originally posted by: nemesismk2
Some interesting news is that on OCW they are looking for people to beta test a new bios which according to Bluetooth from OCW has "very interesting options"

What are you waiting for?

Hopefully they're adding more overclocking options, I guess we'll see. I haven't much been following the discussion on OCW in the last day or two, I should keep checking there.

Originally posted by: FirNaTine
I have my board up and running now. I am still tidying up the software updates and such, but so far I have had no problems with the install and configuration of the board. I am running an X2 4200, 2x 1 gig OCZ platinum, and an AGP 6800gt on the board. The only tweak I had to make was the board defaulted to slow speed/ loose timings on the ram. I manually put it to the rated settings and it has been running fine since.

Great, glad to hear more good experiences. Be sure to update us if you have more to share.

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: nemesismk2
Here are a few game benchmark results:-

asrock 939 dual sata 2 (uli m1695)
athlon64 3000 venice 1.8ghz 939

gigabyte k8ns pro nf3 250 gb (nforce3 250)
athlon64 2800 1.8ghz 754

msi geforce 6600 gt (v77.77 drivers)

benchmark results:-

(asrock 939 dual sata 2, gigabyte k8ns pro)

comanche4 = 60, 55
doom 3 = 108, 98
quake3 = 424, 364
scrapland = 137, 136
tribes vengenace = 122, 115
unreal tournament 2004 = 132, 117
warhammer 40k dawn of war = 94, 87
xpand rally = 67, 60

Awesome :thumbsup:

Originally posted by: nemesismk2
Some interesting news is that on OCW they are looking for people to beta test a new bios which according to Bluetooth from OCW has "very interesting options"

What are you waiting for?

Hopefully they're adding more overclocking options, I guess we'll see. I haven't much been following the discussion on OCW in the last day or two, I should keep checking there.

Originally posted by: FirNaTine
I have my board up and running now. I am still tidying up the software updates and such, but so far I have had no problems with the install and configuration of the board. I am running an X2 4200, 2x 1 gig OCZ platinum, and an AGP 6800gt on the board. The only tweak I had to make was the board defaulted to slow speed/ loose timings on the ram. I manually put it to the rated settings and it has been running fine since.

Great, glad to hear more good experiences. Be sure to update us if you have more to share.

I have a very strict rule, no beta drivers or bios because I like my computers to be very reliable.

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: nemesismk2
I have a very strict rule, no beta drivers or bios because I like my computers to be very reliable.

Fair enough.

Once I figure out which CPU to buy with it (and convince myself that I'm able to spend the money ), I'll be all over this myself.

 

[ND40oz]

Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy

I'm gonna get cracking on some info on this, I always thought bulging caps were an issue of the past.

I wish they were an issue of the past. Over the past year, we've replaced close to 700 dell mbs due to capacitor problems. It was so bad with the Dell recall, Dell is giving us free products to compensate our time I'm currently waiting on a 7800GTX and a 2405FP. Works for me, by then end of the recall, I could swap a dell sff motherboard in less then 5 minutes start to finish. Hardest part was getting that darn power supply out.

 

[Bullhonkie]

Originally posted by: touchmyichi
yeah, i'm wondering on XP-120 as well.

Actually after thinking about it some, even if the XP-120 did fit the new SI-120 might be a better option. From reviews so far it seems to cool about as well, but being higher off the board with more overhang would allow for some pretty good secondary cooling of the passive NB heatsink and RAM as well. Thoughts?