asrock 939dual-sata2 with 3800+ X2 processor not posting

[cabotp]

I wanted to upgrade my Athlon XP 3200+ processor to a 64bit system. But I didn't want to have to throw away my 5600 Geforce video card. So I went out and purchased the asrock 939dual-sata2 motherboard and a 3800+ X2 Manchestor core cpu.

I install my old video card, power supply, ddr ram, and sata raid controller card. When I go to start up the system. The Dvd drives spin up, but the system doesn't post at all. Nothing comes on the screen. And there are no bios beep codes.

Old hardware that I'm using in the system is

Antec Smartpower 350W ATX 2.0 PS
MSI Geforce 5600 VTDR128
Highpoint 1640 raid controller card
Samsung PC3200 1G
4 Seagate 120GB in a raid 5 configuration
floppy drive
one dual layer burner
and one dvd-rom drive.

The new hardware is the motherboard and cpu as mentioned above

Would the lower powered power supply cause a problem like this?

 

[grooge]

did you plug the 4 pins connector as well as the main 20 pins one?

 

[designit]

clear CMOS.
BTW you are running all those HDD on a 350 watts?
low power could be another problem here. The system you're building needs at least 450watts, better to go w/ antec 480 watts

Edit: this Antec 550 watts is $75 w/ rebate and is SLI ready. Its cheaper than the 480watts and more power. you cant go wrong w/ this unit.

 

[imported_Imp]

Wow, I really think you should invest in a new PSU even though it may not be the problem. Before you do that though, try to only plug in the essentials(CPU, Ram, HDD, DVD...) and try to boot. If it still doesn't work, it MAY be that your BIOS doesn't support your CPU yet. I've heard of other ASRock people being unable to boot/POST (don't recall) because the BIOS was too old so the board couldn't recognize the CPU. Some of them ended up having to borrow a CPU to update BIOS first (or they RMA'd it to update). So probably a good idea to eliminate power as an issue first.

http://www.asrock.com/support/download.asp?Model=939Dual-SATA2#bios

I don't see your CPU as an added support option in the BIOS, so definately get a new PSU first(if it POSTs, probably not going run that setup anyways).

 

[cabotp]

Grooge: Ya I plugged in both the 20pin power connector and the 4 pin 12V connector


Imp: I thought about the whole bios can't boot that cpu yet idea. But like you've noticed all the bioses should be able to do that.

So I decided to try booting my computer with no hard drives powered up and it still doesn't want to boot.

Imp: is 450W for a basic system with only one HD?

This wouldn't be one of those cold boot issues that I've read about?

Either way I'm gonna go out a get a new Antec 500W NEO.

 

[imported_Imp]

Don't worry, it's not the cold boot issue; I've seen them enough times, they always got to POST at least. I'd link a good PSU calculator for you to check, but it's locking up explorer right now. But I also have that PSU and:

A64 3200+ (stock)
2x DDR DRAM
1 DVD RW
1 HDD
ATI 9600
ASRock MB

My total wattage is about 250 max. So with your extra drives and CPU, probably not enough. And just realized: Smartpower has dual 12v rails with only 25A total. So it may be that there isn't enough juice on the 12v rail even without any HDDs plugged in. Again, pointing to PSU so I think you're on the right track.

 

[professor1942]

This sort of problem usually comes from things not being plugged in correctly (floppy cable upside down?) and most often I've found it's the RAM not being seated correctly. I'd pull the memory out first and try with one DIMM at a time...

 

[pspada]

My first board had the same problem, and I had to RMA it to Newegg.

 

[Gbaby1008]

What voltage is your video card run at?
i had the same problem with a 5900xt, which runs @ 3.3v
turns out this mobo only supports 1.5v
i got a new pcie card and it works fine now

 

[cabotp]

Gbaby1008: Its a 1.5V video card. I looked into it before using it.

OK I went out and picked up a Enermax 535W All-in-One PS. EG5654P-VE FMA Came home and plugged in the 20 pin MB connector and the 12V MB connector. I left all my drives unplugged both data and power cables. I turn on the switch on the back and hit the power switch up front and I still get a really hi pitched squeel and it still won't turn on the monitor and give me a post screen. I then removed my AGP video card and replaced it with one of my older ATI Mach64 pci cards that I was using on a another computer. And the squeel is still there and no post.

papada: Were you hearing a hi-pitched noise on your faulty system?

 

[designit]

the 4 prong atx is 2 yellow and 2 black wires. right?

 

[cabotp]

^ Yes it is. Actually on this PS it comes as short adapter that plugs into another 8 pin plug. But only 4 of those pins are being used. The only other 4 pin connector on this PS is the one that would be used for the 24pin ATX connector. So I'm about 99.9999% certain I didn't mix them up.

 

[imported_Seer]

See if you can try the cpu in another board. if it doesn't work there, then you know the problem.

 

[imported_Imp]

Well, you couldn't go wrong with the new PSU so at least one cause eliminated. Now, it's either Ram, CPU or mobo. So like others have said, test Ram and CPU in other systems if possible. Find a friend/store? for CPU I guess. Your Ram is old and I'm guessing worked, so minus one. Roll the dice on CPU or mobo.

By the way, what king of high-pitched noise? When I first got this board, there was a REALLY annoying coil whine/ coil buzz which went away after a week or two. If it is that, it shouldn't be an issue.

 

[cabotp]

Ya the ram comes from my old computer which was working before I took it apart to install the new MB and CPU. I've only tried one ram module I'll try the other one later on tonight. Failing that I'm gonna take it into a shop to have them test the cpu and motherboard. All my friends are stuck back in the stone age and using athlon 1700+ and lower lol.

 

[bunker]

Another thing to try is pulling the motherboard out of the case and setting everything up. Could have a bad ground somewhere.

 

[cabotp]

^ I'll try that.

 

[pspada]

Originally posted by: cabotp
Gbaby1008: Its a 1.5V video card. I looked into it before using it.

OK I went out and picked up a Enermax 535W All-in-One PS. EG5654P-VE FMA Came home and plugged in the 20 pin MB connector and the 12V MB connector. I left all my drives unplugged both data and power cables. I turn on the switch on the back and hit the power switch up front and I still get a really hi pitched squeel and it still won't turn on the monitor and give me a post screen. I then removed my AGP video card and replaced it with one of my older ATI Mach64 pci cards that I was using on a another computer. And the squeel is still there and no post.

papada: Were you hearing a hi-pitched noise on your faulty system?

Nope, neither the faulty board nor the replacement had a h-pitched noise. There were lots of little issues, but the main problem is that the board would not post at all with 2 sticks of memory installed.

 

[designit]

I think that kind of high pitch beeping is caused by the memory wrong TRCD timing
increase this value if can. if not on this board, do it in another board and then when mobo posts, set mem timings to auto and go to window and check the timing under CPUz and then go back to bios and set it manually to what cpuz showed.
By mem timings I mean: Cas Latency(CL), RAS to Cas Delay(TRCD), Ras Precharge(Trp), and Cycle timing(Tras). the Asrock bios has it in this order: CL, Trcd, Tras, Trp.
the speed (100, 133,166,200mhz) are the dividers. If not overclocking, set it to 200mhz which will be DDR 400 and 1:1 ratio. If you overclock, watch this item so it will not exceed your ram's overclocking limit. 166mhz divider will give you up to 250mhz CPU FSB and ram will stay @ or below DDR400.
Maybe too much info to say in this thread. but enough to help you alleviate your problem having here.

 

[imported_Seer]

I once had a problem like this. Turns out that dust got into the socket and the processor merely needed to be remounted (and the dust blown out of the socket). Try that.

 

[cabotp]

After trying a different CPU, Case, and PS, and memory module. This MB still won't post. Although I'm no longer hearing the Hi-pitched noise but I'm still not getting a signal to the monitor when it starts up. So I'm gonna see if Asrock will RMA it for me. If they won't then I guess this board will have to be thrown in the garbage

 

[Seufari]

I seem to be having the same problem.....

 

[designit]

continous spin means bad rams or bad mem timing, mostly the cause.
short spin and a stop means the pins ATX is not the correct one. that one need to be 2 yellow and 2 black wires.

 

[cabotp]

^ In regards to the bad mem timing. How would can I fix that if I can't even get into the bios settings. And do you know of a list of recommended memory modules. The memory module that I'm trying to use was working on my previous ASUS A7N-E Deluxe motherboard.

Originally posted by: Seufari
how far do you get...??? How long does you system get power...?

It seems like I am having the same exact problem. My fans and PSU spin for about all of two seconds before nothingness... I am recycling everything from my old system besides the mobo and cpu (opty 146 from monarch). I did get that high pitched squeal with mulitple ram modules but I dont with only one.

The fans do spin and continue to spin the entire time. But I'm getting no signal to the monitor. If I remove the memory module it gives me the standard 3 beep bios alarm code

 

[Deslok]

Originally posted by: designit
short spin and a stop means the pins ATX is not the correct one. that one need to be 2 yellow and 2 black wires.

I am having this exact problem but the atx lead is the correct one.
I'm starting to think it is a bad processor.
cpu fan
vid card fan and power led
case fan
PS fan
all spin for about 1 sec then stop.

i do not have aother 939 board to test.

PS Seasonic s-12 500
Mem Patriot 2x1GB
CPU Opteron 146
Vid X1800XT
HD1 WD Raptor
DVD1 NEC 3550

1st board was RMA'd to newegg becuse it was dead. This one is rev 1.05 and i'm starting to get frustrated.

Changed mem slots, changed mem modules. Nothing seems to be helping at the moment.
Same results if I have the board outside the case so i do not think it is shorting out anywhere.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.