Assault/Battery Charges

[ArchCenturion]

Originally posted by: TreyRandom

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion
I like to spend my money on snowboarding. Im not sure if i wasnt clear, but its actually $7200/year. My parents do not pay for anything anymore. They stopped paying half my tuition after last spring quarter. Im sure if i added all my extraneous expenses such as food, walmart shopping, gas, it might be in the range of 2k. My car insurance is like 1.5k. and car payments are around 3.5k/ year.

i have wanted to move out for a long time, since i was 16, but I also did not want to have to work more, or spend all of my money paying things like rent which you dont really get anything worthwhile out of.

Like somebody mentioned, my plans were to just continue living with my parents, then get enough money for a condo or something, skip the rent thing. Ill see what happens, but thats still my goal.

If I were your parent, I'd stop paying half your tuition too, especially after seeing you blow at least half your money on snowboarding. Your parents enabled your behavior by allowing you to live with them rent free and by paying your tuition, enabling you to blow most of your own money on "fun". I enjoy computer gaming, scuba diving, and pro sporting events... but I can tell you that I haven't spent $7200 on them ALL in the last 5 years, combined. And I make sure the bills are paid first before paying for "playtime". Responsibilities come FIRST.

Welcome to the "real world". Glad you could make it. It's really not that bad, I promise.

I am sorry there is a little confusion, I did not phrase that $7200 correctly. That is how much tuition costs me yearly, not how much i spend snowboarding.

I probably spend an average of $60/lift ticket, and about $60 on gas/food.
Ive been 4 times this season, assuming i can get another 6-8 more days of riding, then i will have spent approximately $1440.

This "Real World" you speak of, i do not fear it, so I guess I will be leaving my "Fake World" behind?

Im 23, single and have no debt, I want play time to be all the time, my parents have only suceeded in temporarily slowing my plans for playtime.

 

[Mill]

Siblings fight. Even siblings 10 years older than each other. The backhand was a tad much, but it wasn't like he straight up punched him in the jaw or gave him a nasty laceration or blackeye.

I think your parents overreacted, but probably because there's some history here that we don't know. I think they've been looking for a reason for a long time, or they just got really mad last night.

Either way, it is probably a good thing for you. Get out on your on and experience life.

 

[BigJ]

Your parents overreacted.

You overreacted by hitting your brother in the face. My brother and I both know that if one of us gets pissed off when we're horsing around (he's 16, I'm 20) just to stop and walk away. We're too strong to be horsing around when we're pissed off, and if we continue one of us (most likely him, and he knows this) is going to wind up getting hurt.

 

[TreyRandom]

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion
I am sorry there is a little confusion, I did not phrase that $7200 correctly. That is how much tuition costs me yearly, not how much i spend snowboarding.

I probably spend an average of $60/lift ticket, and about $60 on gas/food.
Ive been 4 times this season, assuming i can get another 6-8 more days of riding, then i will have spent approximately $1440.

This "Real World" you speak of, i do not fear it, so I guess I will be leaving my "Fake World" behind?

Im 23, single and have no debt, I want play time to be all the time, my parents have only suceeded in temporarily slowing my plans for playtime.

Yes. When you're out here, looking back, you'll understand. When you're living at home, relying on someone else, you've got it easy. Those are the good days, my friend.

The fact that you want play time to be all the time is probably a good reason to get you out in the real world. When you're 36 and have no career because you played all the time, you'll look back and realize what you've done. Or not done. I plan on playing all the time... when I'm older, while you're working.

Not trying to be mean or spiteful... I sincerely hope you listen to what some of these folks are saying about ALL of these aspects of your life. If you think it's OK to slap your little bro's grill, a boy who is 9 years younger than you, there's something wrong (I'm the oldest of 4 kids). If you think it's okay to cop a 'tude with your parents because of your actions, there's something wrong. If you think your parents kicking you out is their fault, there's something wrong. You control you. You are responsible for you.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion

Originally posted by: moshquerade
how old are you?

23.5 Im in my last quarter of undergrad

DAMN, Dude, you should apologize and GROW the FVCK UP.

Ungrateful disrespectful ass.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: TreyRandom

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion

Originally posted by: moshquerade
how old are you?

23.5 Im in my last quarter of undergrad

You didn't just put .5 in your age, did you? I think I stopped announcing my "half years" sometime around the age of 12 (and a half).

Then again... perhaps we're getting to the root of the problem.

bingo

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
1. Apologize to your brother.
2. Apologize to your parents.
3. Get a roommate and move out.
4. Anger management.

Bingo

qft

 

[waggy]

hahah you have to smack around a 14yr old? LOL good job.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion
...told me that i was no longer welcome to live there and i had to move out immediately for one month. I told them they were being assholes, and to let me move out in the morning, I wasnt going to leave. Then my mom said she would call the cops, and I was thinking to myself wtf, but i said to her "do it" then shes like "you DONT want me to go there.." and i said " I dont give a ******.." I wasnt yelling or anything, i was pretty calm.

OP, based on this part of your conversation you were throwing an attitude with your parents, even if you believe you said it calmly.

quick hint.
CALMLY is normally not apologetic. calm is usually perceived as indifference. which anger those who believe they deserve an apology.

 

[jakedeez]

Your 23 and you still give your age in halfs?

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: classy
Well maybe you shouldn't have slapped your brother like that, but siblings do quarrel and fight. I think the whole thing with you and your parents is way overboard. As a parent I think they clearly over-reacted, but you gotta be little lighter on your younger brother.

Siblings may quarrel and fight, but generally only when there are only a few years difference in age. At 10 years apart in age, I have trouble believing that there are things they'd fight over. i.e. at ages of 6 and 16, did they fight over the Tonka truck?? The OP was legally an adult when the kid was 8 years old. When I was the OP's age, I had a wife, house, and a child. I also had a younger brother, about 10 years younger than me, but I can't recall ever having a fight or quarrel with him.

your brother is quite lucky. my elder bros are 9-10 years older than me. i can even count the time i've had the crap beaten out of me just cuz i favored one cartoon character and my brother like the other. I've had punches/kicks to the face, chest, even the groin area.

with a 10 years difference there is nothing the younger one can do ion the face of a 23 year old hitting him. OP you deserve the worst fate the cosmos can dish out.


edit
ONE LAST THING. THIS IS A MATTER B/W BROTHERS. TELL YOUR PARENTS TO STAY OUT OF IT. TALK TO YOUR BROTHER AND TELL HIM YOUR SORRY, YOU DID NOT MEAN IT AND YOUR NOT MOVING OUT BECAUSE OF HIM. THEN MOVE OUT

keep in contact with your brother (call him and maybe spend some tie with him like a football game or something) but cut your parents out for a while.

 

[MrDudeMan]

this thread is so annoying. OP, you sound like you have some issues to work out, but on the whole, you are acting like a brother and there is no serious fault with that. everyone in this thread accusing you of battery needs to STFU. they are all holier-than-thou elitist jerks who must have never done anything wrong their entire lives. i have 4 older sisters and i beat them up all the time (im 21, they are all older, 24, 26, 28, and 30). they start it half of the time and have no problem hitting me back. call it whatever you want, but we all have a good enough relationship that we can mess around with each other. oh i know, we are so "immature" but IMO, you can get on your high horse ride off a cliff because we dont pretend to be all proper and mighty. we all still play video games and xbox, too. everyone has a job, half of us are married, and everyone except me is done with college. OP, im telling you this because i really dont think its a big deal that you got in a fight with your brother. you could use a little growing up if you are spending your money on snowboarding, but overall, i dont see a major issue here.

 

[IronWing]

The day my older brother turned 18 I told him if he ever touched me again he was going to jail. He got the message, the OP should too.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion
A couple days ago I was teasing my brother (I grabbed above his knee and would squeeze it cuz hes ticklish there) , and he punched me in the neck, then I told him that if he did something like that again that i would hit him back, only it would be alot harder. Then he mocked me, and i was a little annoyed so i backhanded him across the mouth. It was a good solid back hand and it definitely shut him up, but he has braces, so both my hand and his mouth were bleeding a little.

Later that night my parents asked him why he had a fat lip, and he told them that i had punched him. My parents sat me down and argued with me for a bit on what had happened and then told me that i was no longer welcome to live there and i had to move out immediately for one month. I told them they were being assholes, and to let me move out in the morning, I wasnt going to leave. Then my mom said she would call the cops, and I was thinking to myself wtf, but i said to her "do it" then shes like "you DONT want me to go there.." and i said " I dont give a ******.." I wasnt yelling or anything, i was pretty calm. Then she started to say something else, but i walked off midsentance to start getting my crap together. I was thinking to myself that if the cops did come, I wanted to have most of my personal belongings in my car. Then she came upstairs, and told me that I would not like the repercussions if they got the cops involved because they could charge me with assault/battery. I was thinking to myself that this was a bunch of bs.


An assault is an unlawful attempt, coupled with a present
ability, to commit a violent injury on the person of another

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displ...ion=pen&group=00001-01000&file=240-248

So my question... Is me backhanding my brother in retaliation considered assault?
And what is a "Violent Injury" because a bloody lip because of the braces being there really doesn't seem to violent to me.

Seems to me like you've got a problem with keeping your hands to yourself and you've also got huge problems with people who dare to call you on it.

 

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion

Originally posted by: moshquerade
how old are you?

23.5 Im in my last quarter of undergrad

bwahaha.

23 and a half!! AND A HALF! Only children say that shiz. Your parents should give you a gigantic, tag-team beatdown. They should back-hand you like a silver back gorilla. Grow the phuck up.

 

[gsethi]

Whats wrong with OP being 24 and living with his parents ? (i guess it is just a cultural thing ?)

I am 25 and live with my parents (and so do most of people in our culture). Couple of my cousins are ~35+ and they still live with the parents (parents, son + wife, and kids all together). This is very common in many Eastern cultures.

 

[NesuD]

Wow! If either of my boys ever spoke to me like that in my home or anywhere else they wouldn't get a chance to move out. First sentence out of your mouth that didn't include yes sir and I would have dropped you in your tracks. You seem to forget that it isn't your house. It is your parents house. What kind of moron hits a kid with braces anyway. You started the crap then with him then couldn't take it in return. Only thing I would do differently than your mom is I wouldn't involve the cops. I figure if your big enough to backhand a kid with braces and talk like that to your mother then you are definately big enough to take the business end of my fists. Call me old school but I will never tolerate that type of talk and behaviour from any of my boys under any circumstances.

 

[chrisms]

Originally posted by: NesuD
Wow! If either of my boys ever spoke to me like that in my home or anywhere else they wouldn't get a chance to move out. First sentence out of your mouth that didn't include yes sir and I would have dropped you in your tracks. You seem to forget that it isn't your house. It is your parents house. What kind of moron hits a kid with braces anyway. You started the crap then with him then couldn't take it in return. Only thing I would do differently than your mom is I wouldn't involve the cops. I figure if your big enough to backhand a kid with braces and talk like that to your mother then you are definately big enough to take the business end of my fists. Call me old school but I will never tolerate that type of talk and behaviour from any of my boys under any circumstances.

While you're absolute right, I have a feeling you make your kids call you "Sarge."

 

[SilthDraeth]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Bryan

Originally posted by: DonVito
and I think you'd be doing everybody involved, yourself included.

I know it's just a typo, but I had to quote it for posterity.

:laugh:
I'm pretty sure my brain filled in the missing bits, because I totally missed that.

Not really. The guy quoting the original left off the end of the sentence.

 

[wazzledoozle]

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion

Originally posted by: moshquerade
how old are you?

23.5 Im in my last quarter of undergrad

bwahaha.

23 and a half!! AND A HALF! Only children say that shiz. Your parents should give you a gigantic, tag-team beatdown. They should back-hand you like a silver back gorilla. Grow the phuck up.

:thumbsup:

 

[Thetech]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion

Originally posted by: moshquerade
how old are you?

23.5 Im in my last quarter of undergrad

And how old is the brother that you hit?

All else aside, threats like that don't just come out of the blue. There has to be a history of fighting and aggression for most parents to escalate to the point where they're threatening to call the cops.

You're not telling the whole story here.

PS: 24 is too fscking old to still be hitting siblings. I owned a house at that age.

All else aside, threats like that don't just come out of the blue. There has to be a history of fighting and aggression for most parents to escalate to the point where they're threatening to call the cops.

Depends on the parents.

And about you owning a house, every one is diffrent and we all have diffrent carrers. It may not be possible for some to own a house because of finances. Besides, housing might have been affordable when you were 24(I mean that in a respectfull way).

 

[tranceport]

Originally posted by: Juno

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: griffis
Grow up

 

[Thetech]

Originally posted by: NesuD
Wow! If either of my boys ever spoke to me like that in my home or anywhere else they wouldn't get a chance to move out. First sentence out of your mouth that didn't include yes sir and I would have dropped you in your tracks. You seem to forget that it isn't your house. It is your parents house. What kind of moron hits a kid with braces anyway. You started the crap then with him then couldn't take it in return. Only thing I would do differently than your mom is I wouldn't involve the cops. I figure if your big enough to backhand a kid with braces and talk like that to your mother then you are definately big enough to take the business end of my fists. Call me old school but I will never tolerate that type of talk and behaviour from any of my boys under any circumstances.

Okay.... Old school right :roll:

You don't believe that a man's wife is his property and he has a right to beat her do you?

 

[ArchCenturion]

Originally posted by: NesuD
Wow! If either of my boys ever spoke to me like that in my home or anywhere else they wouldn't get a chance to move out. First sentence out of your mouth that didn't include yes sir and I would have dropped you in your tracks. You seem to forget that it isn't your house. It is your parents house. What kind of moron hits a kid with braces anyway. You started the crap then with him then couldn't take it in return. Only thing I would do differently than your mom is I wouldn't involve the cops. I figure if your big enough to backhand a kid with braces and talk like that to your mother then you are definately big enough to take the business end of my fists. Call me old school but I will never tolerate that type of talk and behaviour from any of my boys under any circumstances.

Lol, my dads a pussy. I respect him because he is my father. But other than that there is really nothing spectacular about him.

If you came at me with your fists, I would lay you out and make you scream uncle.

 

[Darwin333]

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion

i have wanted to move out for a long time, since i was 16, but I also did not want to have to work more, or spend all of my money paying things like rent which you dont really get anything worthwhile out of.

That sums it up right there. You are a 23 (and a half) year old bum who likes beating on kids half your age.