Assault/Battery Charges

[ArchCenturion]

Originally posted by: waggy
Being related by blood is a lot different than being related by a piece of paper. I always knew with my siblings that no matter what happened we'd still love each other and would make up. There's no such guarantee with a spouse. They are radically different things and not comparable.

If you're prepared for someone to not consider someone your sibling anymore, go ahead and call the cops because it must have been serious enough for that. Otherwise, you are better able to work out the problem in-house than the police ever could.

there is a differance between 2 15 yr olds fighting. yeah tell them to work it out and continue on.

but a 24yr old smacking the 14 yr old in the mouth is diffrent. the 24 yr old started it and should know better then to smack the younger child.

and yes depending on the 24 yr old (such as is this the first time? has he done other stuff? etc etc) then yes i would call the cops on him.[/quote]

Now that I have thought about it more, It is not the first time that something like this has happened.

This last summer my little brother (the 19yr old, 215lbs one) was cutting come bolt or something with a coping saw, and I walked by and grabbed a back hair and ripped it out (he had earlier grabbed one of my nipple hairs and ripped it out).

He swung around and took a chunk out of my ribs with the coping saw. I was in a bit of pain, but really mad that he would swing a fvcking saw at me, so i grabbed his neck and punched him square in the face. His nose swelled up and he bled on and off for the next few hours.

the night they kicked me out, my parents did tell me that I had done this sort of thing before, when i told them that i would rather not move out, and asked what they wanted me to do to change their minds, but i did not really care or make the correlation with my previoius blunder.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion
Lol brother beating. People are acting like i smashed his face, broke all his fingers, and tore off his ears.

It was just a lazy but fairly solid backhand that happened to connect to his lip and braces. I was not angry at him, just annoyed at the way he was talking back to me.

I am not trying to defend what I did, or say that i was justified, but people using the arguement that i started it need to reallize that with brothers living together there really is no clear cut starting point. Ya the immediate cause was me messin with him, but I could have been messin with him because of something he did to me earlier, he beaned me in the head with a tennis ball, and even that act was more than likely started by something earlier.

I didn't mean it literally :Q. It was simply a catchy title and it certainly did catch your attention, no?

Oh and you people who complain about the .5? I think you need to look at your complaints and take your own advice to grow up. Who cares if he says he's 23 and a half... you got your answer didn't you? Bunch of self-righteous yuppies we have here :roll:

EDIT:

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion
This last summer my little brother (the 19yr old, 215lbs one) was cutting come bolt or something with a coping saw, and I walked by and grabbed a back hair and ripped it out (he had earlier grabbed one of my nipple hairs and ripped it out).

He swung around and took a chunk out of my ribs with the coping saw. I was in a bit of pain, but really mad that he would swing a fvcking saw at me, so i grabbed his neck and punched him square in the face. His nose swelled up and he bled on and off for the next few hours.

Ehh honestly, that's your own fault... I don't know what you were taught when it comes to power tools and safety, but you do NOT do something to alarm or surprise someone who's using a dangerous power tool! Looking at this situation, I wouldn't be surprised if he turned around purely out of instinct and didn't realize that he was still holding a relatively dangerous (in this case) weapon in his hand.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion
Now that I have thought about it more, It is not the first time that something like this has happened.

This last summer my little brother (the 19yr old, 215lbs one) was cutting come bolt or something with a coping saw, and I walked by and grabbed a back hair and ripped it out (he had earlier grabbed one of my nipple hairs and ripped it out).

He swung around and took a chunk out of my ribs with the coping saw. I was in a bit of pain, but really mad that he would swing a fvcking saw at me, so i grabbed his neck and punched him square in the face. His nose swelled up and he bled on and off for the next few hours.

the night they kicked me out, my parents did tell me that I had done this sort of thing before, when i told them that i would rather not move out, and asked what they wanted me to do to change their minds, but i did not really care or make the correlation with my previoius blunder.

Sounds like your whole family is messed up then. See you on Springer.

Edit - Fixed broken quoting.

- M4H

 

[ArchCenturion]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion
Lol brother beating. People are acting like i smashed his face, broke all his fingers, and tore off his ears.

It was just a lazy but fairly solid backhand that happened to connect to his lip and braces. I was not angry at him, just annoyed at the way he was talking back to me.

I am not trying to defend what I did, or say that i was justified, but people using the arguement that i started it need to reallize that with brothers living together there really is no clear cut starting point. Ya the immediate cause was me messin with him, but I could have been messin with him because of something he did to me earlier, he beaned me in the head with a tennis ball, and even that act was more than likely started by something earlier.

I didn't mean it literally :Q. It was simply a catchy title and it certainly did catch your attention, no?

Oh and you people who complain about the .5? I think you need to look at your complaints and take your own advice to grow up. Who cares if he says he's 23 and a half... you got your answer didn't you? Bunch of self-righteous yuppies we have here :roll:

EDIT:

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion
This last summer my little brother (the 19yr old, 215lbs one) was cutting come bolt or something with a coping saw, and I walked by and grabbed a back hair and ripped it out (he had earlier grabbed one of my nipple hairs and ripped it out).

He swung around and took a chunk out of my ribs with the coping saw. I was in a bit of pain, but really mad that he would swing a fvcking saw at me, so i grabbed his neck and punched him square in the face. His nose swelled up and he bled on and off for the next few hours.

Ehh honestly, that's your own fault... I don't know what you were taught when it comes to power tools and safety, but you do NOT do something to alarm or surprise someone who's using a dangerous power tool! Looking at this situation, I wouldn't be surprised if he turned around purely out of instinct and didn't realize that he was still holding a relatively dangerous (in this case) weapon in his hand.

Not usually that nitpicky, but im bored, and kinda in the mood...

Coping saw is not a power tool... http://www.garrettwade.com/jump.jsp?itemID=101497&itemType=PRODUCT

 

[ArchCenturion]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Funny, your dad sounds like a nice enough guy on the phone. And for a skinny emo kid who's made out with another dude, you're certainly not one to be calling anyone a "pussy."

- M4H

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Sounds like your whole family is messed up then. See you on Springer.

Edit - Fixed broken quoting.

- M4H

Do you actually have brothers that you deal with differently? Or are you just trying to get me riled up?

That first comment doesn't even make sense to me.

 

[randay]

Don't worry, you'll own a trailer of your own some day, and then noone can kick you out.

 

[ArchCenturion]

Originally posted by: randay
Don't worry, you'll own a trailer of your own some day, and then noone can kick you out.

If it came down to that, i would probably prefer to buy and live on a boat.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Sounds like your whole family is messed up then. See you on Springer.

Edit - Fixed broken quoting.

- M4H

Do you actually have brothers that you deal with differently? Or are you just trying to get me riled up?

I have one older (26) and one younger (10) - I'm 23.

The older brother and I regularily kicked the crap out of each other - the difference is, we did it in a sparring ring, and it was for sport. There was never any violent intent, just competition. We scrapped a bit as kids, but it was always more of a shoving match than exchanging blows.

The younger brother ... he's not only a kid, he's my brother. I can't speak from direct experience, but I wouldn't hit him even if he kicked me squarely in the jimmy. I'd probably give him a bear hug, sling him over my shoulder and hobble him over to the parents for disclipine by them, but I sure as sh*t wouldn't backhand him.

It's taken me a long time to respond because I simply can't comprehend WTF is wrong with your head that puts "backhand your kid brother" under the Things That Are Okay To Do heading.

- M4H

 

[ArchCenturion]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

I have one older (26) and one younger (10) - I'm 23.

The older brother and I regularily kicked the crap out of each other - the difference is, we did it in a sparring ring, and it was for sport. There was never any violent intent, just competition. We scrapped a bit as kids, but it was always more of a shoving match than exchanging blows.

The younger brother ... he's not only a kid, he's my brother. I can't speak from direct experience, but I wouldn't hit him even if he kicked me squarely in the jimmy. I'd probably give him a bear hug, sling him over my shoulder and hobble him over to the parents for disclipine by them, but I sure as sh*t wouldn't backhand him.

It's taken me a long time to respond because I simply can't comprehend WTF is wrong with your head that puts "backhand your kid brother" under the Things That Are Okay To Do heading.

- M4H

By jimmy, im assuming you mean the nuts.

Would you really let your little brother walk all over you like this? Hey thanks for kickin me in the nuts lemme give you a bear hug. You can do it again any time you want to, all im gonna do is limp over to mommy and daddy and tattle on you.

Maybe its because ur Canadian or something, but that really sounds like a pretty girly solution.

 

[TreyRandom]

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

I have one older (26) and one younger (10) - I'm 23.

The older brother and I regularily kicked the crap out of each other - the difference is, we did it in a sparring ring, and it was for sport. There was never any violent intent, just competition. We scrapped a bit as kids, but it was always more of a shoving match than exchanging blows.

The younger brother ... he's not only a kid, he's my brother. I can't speak from direct experience, but I wouldn't hit him even if he kicked me squarely in the jimmy. I'd probably give him a bear hug, sling him over my shoulder and hobble him over to the parents for disclipine by them, but I sure as sh*t wouldn't backhand him.

It's taken me a long time to respond because I simply can't comprehend WTF is wrong with your head that puts "backhand your kid brother" under the Things That Are Okay To Do heading.

- M4H

By jimmy, im assuming you mean the nuts.

Would you really let your little brother walk all over you like this? Hey thanks for kickin me in the nuts lemme give you a bear hug. You can do it again any time you want to, all im gonna do is limp over to mommy and daddy and tattle on you.

Maybe its because ur Canadian or something, but that really sounds like a pretty girly solution.

Well, see, there's the difference between you and me... my little bro wouldn't kick me in the nuts. Nor would I lay five across his chops. Thus, there's no "walking all over" on either side... we have respect for one another. Hitting him, or him hitting me, doesn't show respect... it just shows that we can dominate one another through force or pain. And I have no need to dominate him. He's my friend and my brother.

There was that time that I slammed his head into a dresser... but I was 5 and he was 3....

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Sounds like your whole family is messed up then. See you on Springer.

Edit - Fixed broken quoting.

- M4H

Do you actually have brothers that you deal with differently? Or are you just trying to get me riled up?

It's taken me a long time to respond because I simply can't comprehend WTF is wrong with your head that puts "backhand your kid brother" under the Things That Are Okay To Do heading.

- M4H

QFT. The OP's 24 and his brother is a 14 year old kid, seriously, what the hell?

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Sounds like your whole family is messed up then. See you on Springer.

Edit - Fixed broken quoting.

- M4H

Do you actually have brothers that you deal with differently? Or are you just trying to get me riled up?

It's taken me a long time to respond because I simply can't comprehend WTF is wrong with your head that puts "backhand your kid brother" under the Things That Are Okay To Do heading.

- M4H

QFT. The OP's 24 and his brother is a 14 year old kid, seriously, what the hell?

bad parenting.

 

[Journer]

i didnt read any previous post other than OP:

thats so fcking stupid...you are brothers...brothers fight...your parrents are retarded...

 

[SexyK]

Only skimmed the thread but it seems like lots of back and forth about parenting/sibling relations. Regardless of all that, assault and battery are two separate offenses, and you are technically guilty of both. In fact, you were guilty of battery when you squeezed his thigh.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: SexyK
Only skimmed the thread but it seems like lots of back and forth about parenting/sibling relations. Regardless of all that, assault and battery are two separate offenses, and you are technically guilty of both. In fact, you were guilty of battery when you squeezed his thigh.

what about sexual assault? molestation? pedophilia?

 

[ArchCenturion]

Originally posted by: SexyK
Only skimmed the thread but it seems like lots of back and forth about parenting/sibling relations. Regardless of all that, assault and battery are two separate offenses, and you are technically guilty of both. In fact, you were guilty of battery when you squeezed his thigh.

Lol, ive battered so many women.

 

[alocurto]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion

Originally posted by: moshquerade
how old are you?

23.5 Im in my last quarter of undergrad

why aren't you living on campus or something?

time away from your parents and they from you would be helpful. it sounds like your actions, even more than clocking your brother, have put them over the edge.

I agree. I think the time away after high school and through college allows for the relationship to become more of a respectable friend type then the "you do what they say" relationship. How old is your brother? Based on your parents reaction I am guessing you have given them nothing but hard times in the past and they are fed up. This is just the one thing that pushed them over the edge.

 

[alocurto]

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion

Originally posted by: SexyK
Only skimmed the thread but it seems like lots of back and forth about parenting/sibling relations. Regardless of all that, assault and battery are two separate offenses, and you are technically guilty of both. In fact, you were guilty of battery when you squeezed his thigh.

Lol, ive battered so many women.

haha, that's a good one.

 

[hg321]

Originally posted by: ArchCenturion

Originally posted by: randay
Don't worry, you'll own a trailer of your own some day, and then noone can kick you out.

If it came down to that, i would probably prefer to buy and live on a boat.

you could always buy a van and live down by the river.

 

[killface]

Holy crap there's a lot of morality police / housing authorities here.

OP - If everything went down the way you said, your parents are dicks. Also, they have to give you 30 days notice to throw you out. I know some geniuses here will say "but it's their house, they can do what they want." Not true. Even if you don't pay rent or have a contract, they have to give you notice.

Originally posted by: NesuD
Wow! If either of my boys ever spoke to me like that in my home or anywhere else they wouldn't get a chance to move out. First sentence out of your mouth that didn't include yes sir and I would have dropped yo --blah blah tough guy crap blah blah blah.

You're a model of modern parenting. This reminds me of the repressed gay dad from American Beauty (Colonel Frank Fitts)