Originally posted by: Wesley Fink
I don't generally comment on reviews at other sites, but the author at Tom's is terribly confused about system clock and Hyper Transport settings. The system clock range on the Asus A8R-MVP is 200 to 400, not the 200-1000 quoted by Tom's. The 200-1000 is the A8R-MVP HT range and are typical settings.
Similarly on the Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe the HT range is 200-1600 - NOT the clock settings as quoted at Tom's. As you will see in my review at AT of the same board the HT settings above 1000 do not work and were designed by Asus for possible future AMD processors. The Clock speed adjustments on the A8N32-SLI are 200 to 500. The A8N32-SLI is also EIGHT phase and not 6-phase as stated by THG. With so many factual errors one has to wonder . . .
THG is also using a full 7.0 multiplier on the A8R-MVP and a 6.5 multiplier on the A8N32-SLI. Oskar Wu of DFI proved long ago that half multipliers don't really work as you would think on the AMD processors. In fact 6.5 works by lowering the memory speed and running the CPU clock higher. Therefore 6.5/346 on the A8N and 7.0/325 on the A8R are actually remarkably close in REAL performance. I find it odd that the OC experts at www.xtremesystems.org do not get anywhere near 346 in the numerous posts they have made on the performance of the same A8N32. Then we see THG could only get to 300 at 1T on the A8N32-SLI and used 2T Command Rate to get to 346 - ansd we don't don't know what Command Rate was used on the A8R-MVP.
I found 1:1 at 1T Command Rate on the A8N32-SLI to be 315 and the same memory at 1T on the A8R reached 325. Both these were at 9 multiplier.
Also keep in mind the A8N32-SLI costs about $200 to $220, while the A8R-MVP is selling for $100-$120 on most sites not jacking up the price. For half the price of the A8R-MVP or the DFI RDX200 (which uses the ATI North Brodge and the ATI SB450 South Bridge), the A8R-MVP is quite a board IMHO.
Originally posted by: Wesley Fink
I don't generally comment on reviews at other sites, but the author at Tom's is terribly confused about system clock and Hyper Transport settings. The system clock range on the Asus A8R-MVP is 200 to 400, not the 200-1000 quoted by Tom's. The 200-1000 is the A8R-MVP HT range and are typical settings.
Similarly on the Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe the HT range is 200-1600 - NOT the clock settings as quoted at Tom's. As you will see in my review at AT of the same board the HT settings above 1000 do not work and were designed by Asus for possible future AMD processors. The Clock speed adjustments on the A8N32-SLI are 200 to 500. The A8N32-SLI is also EIGHT phase and not 6-phase as stated by THG. With so many factual errors one has to wonder . . .
THG is also using a full 7.0 multiplier on the A8R-MVP and a 6.5 multiplier on the A8N32-SLI. Oskar Wu of DFI proved long ago that half multipliers don't really work as you would think on the AMD processors. In fact 6.5 works by lowering the memory speed and running the CPU clock higher. Therefore 6.5/346 on the A8N and 7.0/325 on the A8R are actually remarkably close in REAL performance. I find it odd that the OC experts at www.xtremesystems.org do not get anywhere near 346 in the numerous posts they have made on the performance of the same A8N32. Then we see THG could only get to 300 at 1T on the A8N32-SLI and used 2T Command Rate to get to 346 - ansd we don't don't know what Command Rate was used on the A8R-MVP.
I found 1:1 at 1T Command Rate on the A8N32-SLI to be 315 and the same memory at 1T on the A8R reached 325. Both these were at 9 multiplier.
Also keep in mind the A8N32-SLI costs about $200 to $220, while the A8R-MVP is selling for $100-$120 on most sites not jacking up the price. For half the price of the A8R-MVP or the DFI RDX200 (which uses the ATI North Brodge and the ATI SB450 South Bridge), the A8R-MVP is quite a board IMHO.
Originally posted by: n7
Originally posted by: Ryan Norton
What do you expect to see? 325? heh
I expect to see this or higher (what i can currently do with my Neo2)
Don't care what divider you have to use to get that.
Originally posted by: seldomused
Yeah this is stock, I don't have the other one.
Edit: I'm also using a 20-pin PSU, though my rails are great, 26A on 12V. Can this be the cause of the droop anyway?
Originally posted by: computergeek22
After reading user experience here and at xtreme systems forum, it seems that AT might have got a handpicked board. If that is true, shame on Asus, but hopefully Asus can stem any doubts about this board with a bios update ASAP. Hopefully all the problems can be fixed pretty soon because I'm beginning to think twice about purchasing this thing esspecially after all the price hikes on various websites; it would be better to get a DFI and get a northbridge cooler than run this thing if its problematic. Just my $0.02.
Originally posted by: Killrose
Originally posted by: computergeek22
After reading user experience here and at xtreme systems forum, it seems that AT might have got a handpicked board. If that is true, shame on Asus, but hopefully Asus can stem any doubts about this board with a bios update ASAP. Hopefully all the problems can be fixed pretty soon because I'm beginning to think twice about purchasing this thing esspecially after all the price hikes on various websites; it would be better to get a DFI and get a northbridge cooler than run this thing if its problematic. Just my $0.02.
This seems to happen alot. Reveiwers get handpicked boards with special bios adj that will never see the light of retail. I remember well the nForce2 fiasco when all the early reveiw boards were 200+MHz capable, but the early retail Northbridges were noway stable. I think the Reveiw boards are getting voltage tweaks via components.