"Asus jumps gun on Geforce 4"

TEEBONE

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The juicy stuff can be read here

Quite an interesting information, we can finally see what the actual clock speeds of the ram is for each model.
 

AGodspeed

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Well, I didn't hear about it.

But good gawd, 330MHz core clock, 2 vertex shaders, hardware iDCT, better AA, ..d.dfslkdkfjsl; fsdl;kfjsdf

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Me wants.
 

Howard

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rbloedow, you idiot, the good man was faster by TEN minutes! YOU ARE WRONG!! HAHAHAHAHA HAR HAR HAR

j00 = teh st00pid FOREVAR!!!




BTW welcome to the Anandtech Forums. Enjoy your stay (and stay away from the Moderators. xero940 tells me they bite - and the Mods have a dark, dark story behind their existence :Q)
 

NFS4

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rbloedow = illiterate

You betta check yoself fo you wreck yoself! Good work TEEBONE, BOO on rbloedow!!!
 

Leon

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<< Repost - don't people read!?!?!?!?!?!?! >>



Actually, he posted few minutes earlier than I did
 

Shagga

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Think I'm gunna try (TRY being the operative word) and wait untill Doom3 hits the shelves b4 I upgrade again....but it will be hard I'm sure! :frown:
 

SocrPlyr

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interesting to get this stuff early but you almost have to feel sad for Asus's stupid mistake...
they'll probably be in the nVidia doghouse for the gf5...

Josh
 

AGodspeed

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<< mmm 64 Mb version with 300 core clock soudns yummy. >>



128 MB version @ 330 core clock sounds even yummier.
 

ElFenix

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i'm guessing the mx has half the pipes of the regular. and no nfinitefx 2, since its not mentioned. i think it would be lucky if it has the GF3's t&l unit.
 

Zeeliv

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Yes. The MX's are NV17's. They have 2 pipes, no pixel shader and 1 limited vertex shader. They really shouldn't call them GeForce4's, they aren't even GeForce3's.:disgust:

I still wanna know where the GF4 Ti4200 is, it's mentioned in the latest drivers...
 

KDOG

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That Geforce4 MX DDR with the 64MB of 400Mhz memory seems like a good upgrade from my 32MB SDR Geforce2 MX though....
 

AA0

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<< ATI must be Shiiting in their pants!!!!!

-DocSmarts
>>



uh... why? They already have 2 gpus in the works, and planned for release. The GF4MX is a joke, and it has yet to be seen how powerful the GF4 will be, but ATI predicts that their next card will be 1.5x the speed of the 8500, which is crazy.
 

NFS4

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<<

<< ATI must be Shiiting in their pants!!!!!

-DocSmarts
>>



uh... why? They already have 2 gpus in the works, and planned for release. The GF4MX is a joke, and it has yet to be seen how powerful the GF4 will be, but ATI predicts that their next card will be 1.5x the speed of the 8500, which is crazy.
>>


You call the GF4 MX a joke without even seeing its performance numbers. How sweet. You play off the GF4's power (even given the monstrous potential of 660MHz memory). Yet you believe ATi's claim that the R300 will be 1.5x the 8500.

Whatever, I guess the door swings both ways...
 

AGodspeed

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<<

<< ATI must be Shiiting in their pants!!!!!

-DocSmarts
>>



uh... why? They already have 2 gpus in the works, and planned for release. The GF4MX is a joke, and it has yet to be seen how powerful the GF4 will be, but ATI predicts that their next card will be 1.5x the speed of the 8500, which is crazy.
>>



That's funny, have you seen any GeF4MX benchmarks yet? Didn't think so. Don't call it a joke when you don't have a clue in the world as to how it will perform, except to merely site it's specs.

EDIT: Looks like NFS4 got to him before I did.
 

NFS4

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<<

<<

<< ATI must be Shiiting in their pants!!!!!

-DocSmarts
>>



uh... why? They already have 2 gpus in the works, and planned for release. The GF4MX is a joke, and it has yet to be seen how powerful the GF4 will be, but ATI predicts that their next card will be 1.5x the speed of the 8500, which is crazy.
>>



That's funny, have you seen any GeF4MX benchmarks yet? Didn't think so. Don't call it a joke when you don't have a clue in the world as to how it will perform, except to merely site it's specs.

EDIT: Looks like NFS4 got to him before I did.
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LOL, people amaze me some times I find it even funnier given how Anand's Unreal2 testing showed how dependent the engine was on GPU clock speeds.

So at least with the jump from 240MHz to 330MHz in GPU clock and the huge jump in memory speed (500MHz to 660MHz) should be enough to start smacking some things around. That's just the RAW power of the GF4 Ti. Not to mention the optmized memory pipeline, FSAA techniques (OK, let me hush up on that...).

That's the here and now. We have specs on that. The only joke here is you crapping on a card (GF4 MX) that hasn't even had a chance to prove itself. I hope that the GF4 MX has its last laugh at YOU!
 

Insane3D

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Great....wonder if they will be able to fix that infinite loop crap in their drivers before it hits the shelves...


...and people rag on ATI's drivers...
 

NFS4

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<< Great....wonder if they will be able to fix that infinite loop crap in their drivers before it hits the shelves...


...and people rag on ATI's drivers...
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Now you calling NVIDIA's screwup with the infinite loop EVEN with ATi's long past of subpar drivers? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight I surely didn't just get rid of my ATi TV Wonder VE b/c it was good to me
 

Leon

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<< but ATI predicts that their next card will be 1.5x the speed of the 8500, which is crazy >>



ATI predicts sh*t

ATI next part will be overclocked Radeon 8500. In order to achieve 1.5x speed of 8500, card have to be clocked to 410/410, and that assuming that card scales evenly with the clock increase. Good luck.

Leon
 

Insane3D

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"Now you calling NVIDIA's screwup with the infinite loop EVEN with ATi's long past of subpar drivers?"

Well, I have been using a couple Radeon 64mb VIVO's for more than a year now, and I've never had any issues with drivers in any OS. Granted, I really never used the VIVO features, so there could have been problems with that part of the drivers, but like I said, I never used those features. Anyways, I finally decided to upgrade to a Gainward 128mb GF3 Ti200, and it is a very nice card that overclocks well. The card was great until I started playing any DX games. I would either crash out with the "infinite loop" message, or programs like 3DMark2k1 would give me weird messages about the window losing focus. I did some research, and it seems this "inifinite loop" deal is fairly common, and as of now, there is no real fix. I finally resolved my issue by dropping my AGP to 2X, but that is something I never, ever needed to do with my Radeon's...even @ high FSB's like 165mhz. I had to go through several drivers, Via service packs, and a few "memory patches" that actually made things worse.

Now, most people would agree that Nvidia's driver team is one of the best, if not the best in the business, but this problem seems to keep hanging around... I still had this problem with the most recent 27.10's and 27.20's. I would think a team that is so good at writing drivers would be able to figure out what's up and fix it... And worse yet, their "Official" 23.11's are the worst of the bunch..at least for me. So, ATI's history nonwithstanding, in my experience, I have had much less trouble with my ATI cards and their drivers than with Nvidia. Just my experience...
 

CrackRabbit

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Dangit... why did i have to click on that link? Now i gotta clean my keyboard off! *hunts for the drool rag*
But Am I reading this correctly, the MX versiond dont have nFiniteFX II engine?
 
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