Question Asus mobos burning x3D CpuS?

[igor_kavinski]

not sure who makes the least offensive card, msi with their supreme x perhaps?

Gigabyte and MSI, going with these two posts: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/is-there-any-data-on-rtx-4090-coil-whine.2609223/post-41001184

 

[A///]

Gigabyte and MSI, going with these two posts: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/is-there-any-data-on-rtx-4090-coil-whine.2609223/post-41001184

didn't you recommend the supreme x to me a month ago?

 

[WelshBloke]

Whose the go to MB maker now then?
My ASUS x470 prime pro has been pretty solid but obviously I've not needed any customer support.
I had to RMA an asrock rack MB and they were great (cross shipped a bnib MB) but they are more of a server line and it was a known issue with that particular MB.

 

[A///]

you lot forgot that jay's original board was a dud or the cpu was, I forget. both probably had problems.

Jay has, correction, had a dedicated rep at Asus and got spit on like that. Joe sixpack gets urinated and defecated on.

hello twin brother

 

[A///]

Whose the go to MB maker now then?

I like msi and they should be safe on the amd front

 

[igor_kavinski]

didn't you recommend the supreme x to me a month ago?

For the lower temps and good build quality. Didn't know that you were sensitive to coil whine.

 

[Markfw]

Whose the go to MB maker now then?
My ASUS x470 prime pro has been pretty solid but obviously I've not needed any customer support.
I had to RMA an asrock rack MB and they were great (cross shipped a bnib MB) but they are more of a server line and it was a known issue with that particular MB.

Most of my AM5 motherboard are ASRock. The Taichi is my farorite.

 

[eek2121]

I like msi and they should be safe on the amd front

MSI had security keys leaked recently which means exploits are coming. Their customer service is decent, however. I accidentally damaged an X399 socket and they charged me a super low price to replace the board.

Gigabyte has had good times and bad times. The X570S aorus master is the best AMD board i have owned, however.

EDIT: I own 1 Asrock board and wasn’t impressed. There were compatibility issues with memory that just worked for other boards. Also had an issue with the bios config not saving early on.

 

[aigomorla]

On the Intel side, it seems they are doing OK.

nah i think were slowly starting to see it on Raptor Lake.
Well its taking only one person, but im guessing more will be coming.

I just selected Instant 6 GHz in the CPU Upgrade bios setting. I did not set anything else.

I was surprised, that the voltage fluctuated a lot during the load, 1.43V was the maximum of that, it went down to 1.35V if I remember correctly.

IMO it is almost useless without increasing the 5.5 GHz limit for all P cores.

We learned in the old days the only chip which can handle substained 1.45+Vcore forever was the Q6600.
I don't think any chip we had until the i7 920 was classified as another Q6600 tank.
Once we got to the Wolfdales and Yorkies, basically the last gen for LGA775, we started to see heavy voltage degradation on chips on the non HEDT platform side.

Hence why we always recommended you cap your voltage at 1.4
But this was on a 32nm substrate.

 

[aigomorla]

Here's my Thoughts.

ASUS - If it works, and u never need to RMA, and its NEW in BOX... its still a good gamble. (only you will be supporting them)

GIGABYTE - Components look and sound expensive, but in actuality its MEH~. RMA is close to ASUS.. they don't destory your RMA, but they will lose it for a while, or send you back a refurb in worse physical then the board you sent in, but working.

MSI - Sigh... i don't have enough to go on MSI honestly... they were not known for quality until about 2009 when reps started coming out to overclocking meetings and started asking people for help. This is when you saw the "military grade" gear, because we told the rep straight out, your components are dookie, and i think he told the boss that. Next thing we see is the "military grade" stuff coming out.
Someone else like @Markfw who has a LOT of MSI stuff can probably speak more.

eVGA - RIP... BEST of the BEST... You'll be missed....

ASRock - These guys have been my goto lately. I heavily push the TaiChi. I even am responsible for pushing it on Mark even. The TaiChi is a UGLY board, but its the rock of Gibraltar for most of my builds i have done with it. Its SUPER stable, SUPER durable. I can't say more besides it being really UGLY, and also missing some of the more luxury features the higher end boards have on other vendors.

 

[Motostu]

... This is when you saw the "military grade" gear, because we told the rep straight out, your components are dookie, and i think he told the boss that. Next thing we see is the "military grade" stuff coming out.
...

Lol

 

[aigomorla]

You have to remember MSI used to be on the same floor as ECS back pre 2006 i think.
In some cases you were better off buying a ECS because it was available as a combo from Frys

I think this was the first board the MSI Reps showed off to us at the next oc meeting.


You can see the military class stamped on the VRM heatsink.
We were very impressed at the almost 180 MSI did on this board from there norm.

 

[Schmide]

You have to remember MSI used to be on the same floor as ECS back pre 2006 i think.
In some cases you were better off buying a ECS because it was available as a combo from Frys

I bought many an ECS board, a few that died. They were so cheep it was often worth the risk. I don't think any of them took the CPU with them.

 

[Markfw]

Here's my Thoughts.

ASUS - If it works, and u never need to RMA, and its NEW in BOX... its still a good gamble. (only you will be supporting them)

GIGABYTE - Components look and sound expensive, but in actuality its MEH~. RMA is close to ASUS.. they don't destory your RMA, but they will lose it for a while, or send you back a refurb in worse physical then the board you sent in, but working.

MSI - Sigh... i don't have enough to go on MSI honestly... they were not known for quality until about 2009 when reps started coming out to overclocking meetings and started asking people for help. This is when you saw the "military grade" gear, because we told the rep straight out, your components are dookie, and i think he told the boss that. Next thing we see is the "military grade" stuff coming out.
Someone else like @Markfw who has a LOT of MSI stuff can probably speak more.

eVGA - RIP... BEST of the BEST... You'll be missed....

ASRock - These guys have been my goto lately. I heavily push the TaiChi. I even am responsible for pushing it on Mark even. The TaiChi is a UGLY board, but its the rock of Gibraltar for most of my builds i have done with it. Its SUPER stable, SUPER durable. I can't say more besides it being really UGLY, and also missing some of the more luxury features the higher end boards have on other vendors.

Yes, I have several Taichi, never been disappointed. a couple of MSI, no problems, and the one ASUS x670e has been problematic

 

[DrMrLordX]

With all the negativity surrounding the BS disclaimer on the 1410 BIOS by GamersNexus and JayzTwoCents, I'd be willing to bet the disclaimer goes bye bye.

I'd like to see them try to enforce it regardless.

Just because ASUS says their beta bios voids the warranty doesn't mean that it actually voids the warranty!
Customer protection laws exist for a reason.

You both aren't necessarily wrong, but still, I know what they're up to and I'm not keen to play their game. If 1410 (or 1412) is as good as people say it is, I can afford to wait for them to slap a "release" tag on it before I power on my system.

Asus hasn't blinked yet, though.

 

[A///]

Most of my AM5 motherboard are ASRock. The Taichi is my farorite.

the taichis are always nice. the carreras are nicer with that fake marble look.

MSI had security keys leaked recently which means exploits are coming. Their customer service is decent, however. I accidentally damaged an X399 socket and they charged me a super low price to replace the board.

Gigabyte has had good times and bad times. The X570S aorus master is the best AMD board i have owned, however.

EDIT: I own 1 Asrock board and wasn’t impressed. There were compatibility issues with memory that just worked for other boards. Also had an issue with the bios config not saving early on.

I did bring that up in my post unless msi keys are the same for both intel and amd systems. gigabyte yes they seem to be doing good now a days. all brands have their highs and lows that's how it's been as long as I remember. it's times like this i wish dfi were still around. i don't know about msi or giga but asus stopped using pegatron as their manufacturer a decade ago even though they pegatron and asrock are loosely still connected with each other. they have elitegroup make their mother boards. I had bad experiences with elite's hardware long in the past but asus have generally been a safe bet forever. this scandal and a caps scandal a few years ago surprise me.

 

[A///]

nah i think were slowly starting to see it on Raptor Lake.
Well its taking only one person, but im guessing more will be coming.

jay did a video with his tubby camera man a while back and they discussed his gift build in a later video. they original asus board I think it was kept over boosting his editing rig and had other issues and switched to a gigabyte. I think that was a 13900k which replaced the guy's zen 2 thread ripper system a 32 core iirc. i'd be curious to see if there's any funny biz going on with asus boards on intel's side.

 

[bononos]

Here's my Thoughts.

ASUS - If it works, and u never need to RMA, and its NEW in BOX... its still a good gamble. (only you will be supporting them)

GIGABYTE - Components look and sound expensive, but in actuality its MEH~. RMA is close to ASUS.. they don't destory your RMA, but they will lose it for a while, or send you back a refurb in worse physical then the board you sent in, but working.

MSI - Sigh... i don't have enough to go on MSI honestly... they were not known for quality until about 2009 when reps started coming out to overclocking meetings and started asking people for help. This is when you saw the "military grade" gear, because we told the rep straight out, your components are dookie, and i think he told the boss that. Next thing we see is the "military grade" stuff coming out.
Someone else like @Markfw who has a LOT of MSI stuff can probably speak more.

eVGA - RIP... BEST of the BEST... You'll be missed....

ASRock - These guys have been my goto lately. I heavily push the TaiChi. I even am responsible for pushing it on Mark even. The TaiChi is a UGLY board, but its the rock of Gibraltar for most of my builds i have done with it. Its SUPER stable, SUPER durable. I can't say more besides it being really UGLY, and also missing some of the more luxury features the higher end boards have on other vendors.

Jayztwocents video (at 14:05) said that Asrock used to be the 'avoid at all costs brand', when was that because I can't recall now, all I remember now was their thin pcbs used to have alot of flex. MSI used to have poorly rated vrms and got lambasted for it and now they seem to have the best vrms especially on their budget models.

 

[biostud]

Yes, I have several Taichi, never been disappointed. a couple of MSI, no problems, and the one ASUS x670e has been problematic

Do you use all the features of the expensive boards, or could you have opted for ones with less?

I chose the ASRock X670E PRO BS because it was low cost, had the features I needed and I have a sound card.

I‘m just wondering, as I don’t suspect there’s any evidence that the most expensive ones are the most stable/durable?

 

[JoeRambo]

GIGABYTE - Components look and sound expensive, but in actuality its MEH~. RMA is close to ASUS.. they don't destory your RMA, but they will lose it for a while, or send you back a refurb in worse physical then the board you sent in, but working.

MSI - Sigh... i don't have enough to go on MSI honestly... they were not known for quality until about 2009 when reps started coming out to overclocking meetings and started asking people for help. This is when you saw the "military grade" gear, because we told the rep straight out, your components are dookie, and i think he told the boss that. Next thing we see is the "military grade" stuff coming out.
Someone else like @Markfw who has a LOT of MSI stuff can probably speak more.

Since i have stopped buying ASUS quite some time ago, i have bought dozens of MSI and Gigabyte boards:

GIGABYTE: has good components for decent price. The problem is always the BIOS.
For example on AM4, X570 "premium" board would randomly switch to backup bios on failed boot, on AM5 i have documented my journey with BIOS created by what are believe are morons ( part of the fault is no doubt is AMD's ).
on Intel, Gigabyte simply does not have as good memory overclocking as MSI and ASUS, timings will be lower, training will fail etc.

MSI: only good experience with them, but i've been buying good Intel MBs ( Z490 UNIFY, Z690 EDGE D4 ), no experience with AMD stuff from them.

 

[H T C]

With the exception of the board on my 1st computer, all the boards i bought were ASUS ... until they responded "poorly" to a question i asked on their forums about a P5Q Deluxe board, IIRC: i didn't like their response @ ALL, so i banned their products from my house, and that was around 12 years ago.

That decision is looking better and better by the minute ...

 

[TheELF]

i'd be curious to see if there's any funny biz going on with asus boards on intel's side.

On the intel side almost every mobo is like that, you don't get a 250W CPU to run at 330W + by using conservative settings...
But you can look at OC articles, ASUS on the 11thgen went up to 1.58V on auto settings if I'm reading this correctly.
(SP prediction would be the settings it's telling you to apply)

Multi-chip Intel Core i9-11900K Overclocking Review: Four Boards, Cryo Cooling

www.anandtech.com

 

[A///]

id classify the auto oc different than setting a number and the board going behind your back and pushing more voltage than you asked of it and set.

 

[biostud]

I've actually never owned an ASUS board.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I've actually never owned an ASUS board.

Me neither. They were always too pricey for me. Did get a somewhat cheap H610M model for my friend who hasn't reported any issues so far. Have an ASUS N550JV laptop (4th gen coz it was the first one with AVX2). Didn't have any showstopping issues with it but it was TOO expensive for what it offered. I could have saved $500 going with HP or Dell. Have a Zenfone that I got pretty cheap so no complaints there. Latest ASUS purchase few months back was a ROG 6800 XT LC card. Haven't opened it. Hoping to get rid of it for a 7900 XTX or something even newer in future.

Hearing the bad reports, I don't see an ASUS mobo in my future unless it's at a throwaway sale price.