Question Asus mobos burning x3D CpuS?

[H433x0n]

You do know that some settings are present for those who wants to do extreme overclocking, and are not considered to be used for normal use.
I don't think you should try and maximize all your voltage settings in the BIOS and then expect them all to be safe...

Yes, AMD has a separate option for this called "LN2" mode that's activated with a jumper on the motherboard. One of the things changed in AGESA 1.0.07A is making >1.3V available only when in LN2 mode, whereas it wasn't before.

 

[aigomorla]

Not a fan of influencers that plays a toxic twat character to get views. Looking at Stevie nexus here.
If he is wrong, just admit it and mend the bridges. Do not rile up your internet army to incite hatred and negativity

please don't take this the wrong way but....

Im finding it harder to believe a lurker would randomly come out, present a video that looks like it was hosted by ASUS, and then say Gamer Nexus is all wrong, when its not just them but several other influencers with high technical knowledge saying the same thing, along with even submitting samples to professional lab on where the silicon died.

For now i think 95% of us here, aren't believing the Video which looks again paid by ASUS to clean up nuclear fallout, over gamers nexus who self funds everything.

Unless you can show me another video... that can double back your proof that doesn't smell PAID BY ASUS all over it.

For example, it would also help if it wasn't presented in Taiwanese, as well because again all know ASUS is a Taiwan company and its much easier to flex muscle to Taiwan influencers.

 

[H433x0n]

please don't take this the wrong way but....

Im finding it harder to believe a lurker would randomly come out, present a video that looks like it was hosted by ASUS, and then say Gamer Nexus is all wrong, when its not just them but several other influencers with high technical knowledge saying the same thing, along with even submitting samples to professional lab on where the silicon died.

For now i think 95% of us here, aren't believing the Video which looks again paid by ASUS to clean up nuclear fallout, over gamers nexus who self funds everything.

Unless you can show me another video... that can double back your proof that doesn't smell PAID BY ASUS all over it.

For example, it would also help if it wasn't presented in Taiwanese, as well because again all know ASUS is a Taiwan company and its much easier to flex muscle to Taiwan influencers.

FWIW - That video in question was of an Asus engineer that works on the ROG motherboard line. I don't think he said anything other than everybody was measuring the voltage incorrectly. But... I can't speak Mandarin so I just read the subtitles.

 

[dccc]

please don't take this the wrong way but....

Im finding it harder to believe a lurker would randomly come out, present a video that looks like it was hosted by ASUS, and then say Gamer Nexus is all wrong, when its not just them but several other influencers with high technical knowledge saying the same thing, along with even submitting samples to professional lab on where the silicon died.

For now i think 95% of us here, aren't believing the Video which looks again paid by ASUS to clean up nuclear fallout, over gamers nexus who self funds everything.

Unless you can show me another video... that can double back your proof that doesn't smell PAID BY ASUS all over it.

For example, it would also help if it wasn't presented in Taiwanese, as well because again all know ASUS is a Taiwan company and its much easier to flex muscle to Taiwan influencers.

No worries, we all want to share good information. Please do not take it as though Asus is paying people off to present fake news. Gamernexus that said is not a charity too, they may engage in internet marketing tips 101 to increase their view counts and earnings.

With almost 1.9m subscribers, are gn even considered a little guy now? Their videos and outreach can have cascading effects far more than some lone Asus channel.

English subtitled in video now.

 

[moinmoin]

English subtitled in video now.

So he's testing the latest hopefully fully fixed non-beta 1415, and showcases how the reading shows a little discrepancy due to not being closest possible to the source. That's nice, even if a little off topic.

I hope ASUS technicians show the same thoroughness correcting all the safety nets failures (OCP, OTP etc.) that could be seen on ASUS motherboards. A post mortem video how that was possible to happen would be instructive for future ASUS managers and employees.

 

[IEC]

please don't take this the wrong way but....

Im finding it harder to believe a lurker would randomly come out, present a video that looks like it was hosted by ASUS, and then say Gamer Nexus is all wrong, when its not just them but several other influencers with high technical knowledge saying the same thing, along with even submitting samples to professional lab on where the silicon died.

For now i think 95% of us here, aren't believing the Video which looks again paid by ASUS to clean up nuclear fallout, over gamers nexus who self funds everything.

Unless you can show me another video... that can double back your proof that doesn't smell PAID BY ASUS all over it.

For example, it would also help if it wasn't presented in Taiwanese, as well because again all know ASUS is a Taiwan company and its much easier to flex muscle to Taiwan influencers.

Sounds like classic ASUS. They're so invested in trying to point the finger at anyone else (including end user) they don't realize they are hurting their own reputation more with their attempts at damage control. But look! GN is wrong about the voltage! Let's show it on our latest BIOS which isn't the version GN used to test! That'll show it isn't our fault!

So he's testing the latest hopefully fully fixed non-beta 1415, and showcases how the reading shows a little discrepancy due to not being closest possible to the source. That's nice, even if a little off topic.

I hope ASUS technicians show the same thoroughness correcting all the safety nets failures (OCP, OTP etc.) that could be seen on ASUS motherboards. A post mortem video how that was possible to happen would be instructive for future ASUS managers and employees.

Bolded for emphasis. That's what we want to see - properly implemented safety features that would have prevented these catastrophic failures.

Imagine a scenario where catastrophic failures of CPU taking out motherboard were happening - but you were the only motherboard maker whose boards were spared due to proper OCP and OTP implementation. That would be some serious credibility. Unfortunately, that's not the case here.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Please do not take it as though Asus is paying people off to present fake news.

Of course they do, don't be naive. As I stated, free lance social media managers are a dime a dozen and work for chicken feed. Companies stroke influencers when necessary too.

GN is more trustworthy because they chose the mission statement of being consumer advocates. Buying everything on their own dime, and even paying for all their own travel and accomodations. They have again and again shown the humility to declare they know they don't know about various things, and work with experts that do. They have heavily invested in equipment and continue to do so.

Conversely, that video is by an Asus employee? And I am supposed to give it some weight or credence? That's not going to happen.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

please don't take this the wrong way but....

Im finding it harder to believe a lurker would randomly come out, present a video that looks like it was hosted by ASUS, and then say Gamer Nexus is all wrong, when its not just them but several other influencers with high technical knowledge saying the same thing, along with even submitting samples to professional lab on where the silicon died.

For now i think 95% of us here, aren't believing the Video which looks again paid by ASUS to clean up nuclear fallout, over gamers nexus who self funds everything.

Unless you can show me another video... that can double back your proof that doesn't smell PAID BY ASUS all over it.

For example, it would also help if it wasn't presented in Taiwanese, as well because again all know ASUS is a Taiwan company and its much easier to flex muscle to Taiwan influencers.

Hear! hear!

While I have my own response, this is on point.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Yes, AMD has a separate option for this called "LN2" mode that's activated with a jumper on the motherboard. One of the things changed in AGESA 1.0.07A is making >1.3V available only when in LN2 mode, whereas it wasn't before.

How is that relevant? Certainly you should expect unsafe voltages to be available without using LN2 mode?

AMD has never locked their platforms down so hard that they only allowed safe voltages.

 

[A///]

Conversely, that video is by an Asus employee? And I am supposed to give it some weight or credence? That's not going to happen.

My grandad used to say if you can smell crap there's likely crap on the ground close to you. Farming community but you get it.

 

[H433x0n]

How is that relevant? Certainly you should expect unsafe voltages to be available without using LN2 mode?

AMD has never locked their platforms down so hard that they only allowed safe voltages.

Okay, then apparently AMD knew this all along and let motherboard vendors just run wild. That or when they received motherboard and DDR5 samples for QA, they didn’t feel like it was worth informing motherboard vendors the CPUs will begin burning out in a few months.

 

[aigomorla]

With almost 1.9m subscribers, are gn even considered a little guy now?

No they aren't.
GN is considered a big guy.
I sometimes don't like how steve goes off rambling about nonsense half way, but he still gets the point across.

The video you linked however the guy only has 2.18k followers.
Meaning he's not well known.
He might have a tiktok account, and its probably more popular there, but if you know him, lemme give you some advice to tell him.

1. Do not wear a ASUS T-Shirt when trying to defend ASUS and discredit everyone else.
(PLEASE at least use Common Sense on this One. What's up with the ROG shirt Bro.)

2. Use another board OTHER then ASUS to show your point that voltage reading is inaccurate.
(His point could of been shown on ANY other vendor / maker... Why ASUS?)

3. Try not to smell anything like ASUS, because that video REAKS of PAID and SPONSORED by ASUS.
(I could smell his Eau de Toilette Rampage Maximus STRIX perfume all the way from Taiwan.)
That's how strong he smelled of ASUS.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Okay, then apparently AMD knew this all along and let motherboard vendors just run wild.

Pretty much, yes. EXPO in particular offers no settings or guidance for vSoC voltage, at all.

 

[A///]

as much as i want to support amd and i do and will willingly crap on intel's breakfast amd is no one's friend ever. some make it seem like amd were victims of pointing fingers in this matter. what flavor is your kool aid? I want some.

 

[mikeymikec]

Not a fan of influencers that plays a toxic twat character to get views. Looking at Stevie nexus here.
If he is wrong, just admit it and mend the bridges. Do not rile up your internet army to incite hatred and negativity

GN called out Asus on their erroneous belief that Asus is endangering their products by supplying out-of-spec voltages.

Let me get this straight, you're suggesting that people should not incite/partake in hatred and negativity while also opening with an ad hominem with no evidence whatsoever.

I think you should take your own advice. Lead with evidence, let people make their own conclusions. Stop throwing around baseless assertions.

 

[dccc]

Let me get this straight, you're suggesting that people should not incite/partake in hatred and negativity while also opening with an ad hominem with no evidence whatsoever.

I think you should take your own advice. Lead with evidence, let people make their own conclusions. Stop throwing around baseless assertions.

I just showed you guys.
What is steve evidence for him to act this way to spend half a video mocking Asus of being incompetent with voltage application, which we know now is his incorrect interpretation of his incorrect measured points.
What is his next move if we deemed such attacks are baseless now? Apologise and mend bridges is what i suggested

 

[aigomorla]

He is from Asus ROG. In the about section.
Nothing for him to hide. He wants to clear misconception GN spread. Should we not give them a chance?

You know this is COMPLETELY the wrong way to go about things.
You do not get your own staff to discredit the entire community because you goof'd up on PR.

And this makes me want to not give ASUS even more of a chance because of how they are trying to handle this, by calling everyone a liar, and hoping it goes under a rug.

So should we give them a chance... yes, but they shot themselves not only in the foot, but i think in the head by pulling this.

I just showed you guys.
What is steve evidence for him to act this way to spend half a video mocking Asus of being incompetent with voltage application, which we know now is his incorrect interpretation of his incorrect measured points.

You showed us something that was PAID and SPONSORED by ASUS to discredit the entire influencer community, which still holds absolutely no weight as he was using a unreleased inhouse BIOS, and could of been using a staged motherboard.

You just don't get it do you?

YOU DO NOT CLEAN UP YOUR OWN MESS BY SAYING THE OTHER PERSON IS EVEN DIRTIER AND THEN HOPE IT GETS SWEPT UNDER A RUG LIKE THAT VIDEO IS SHOWING.

This is what we are trying to say.

ASUS really oof'd on this one.

 

[dccc]

You know this is COMPLETELY the wrong way to go about things.
You do not get your own staff to discredit the entire community because you goof'd up on PR.

And this makes me want to not give ASUS even more of a chance because of how they are trying to handle this, by calling everyone a liar, and hoping it goes under a rug.

So should we give them a chance... yes, but they shot themselves not only in the foot, but i think in the head by pulling this.

If there is nothing to discredit, how is it discrediting?
He just showed everyone there are multiple points that you can measure, a matter of factly Why do you take that personally if done by Asus member? Who else will you want to explain the ins-and-outs of this?
Taking a point and screaming off your head like Steve did, without more research done, that is on Steve to be discredited.

 

[aigomorla]

Why do you take that personally if done by Asus member?

So Tesla says there is nothing wrong with Full Self Drive, in ALL The testing they have done, yet they still crash into fire trucks...

This is the same analogy i am trying to share...

You think we trust Tesla Full Self Drive around fire trucks? No, i couldn't care less if Elon himself did the testing, because we all know it will still crash into that fire truck.

Your telling us that GN lies, and ASUS doesn't when GN has nothing to hide, and ASUS has to clean up a nuclear fallout from what they just stated.

And your asking me if something is wrong?

Who else will you want to explain the ins-and-outs of this?

I already explained to you how it should of been handled.

 

[dccc]

So Tesla says there is nothing wrong with Full Self Drive, in ALL The testing they have done, yet they still crash into fire trucks...

This is the same analogy i am trying to share...

You think we trust Tesla Full Self Drive around fire trucks? No, i couldn't care less if Elon himself did the testing, because we all know it will still crash into that fire truck.

Your telling us that GN lies, and ASUS doesn't when GN has nothing to hide, and ASUS has to clean up a nuclear fallout from what they just stated.

And your asking me if something is wrong?

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My message is censored by you now. There is nothing for me to continue at a disadvantage ground.

I try to present facts, but you come up with the craziest of conspiracy theories. I am out. I am filing a report with AT admins.
Such behavior of closed mindedness when all i did to present facts, im a shocked happens at AT forums, spinoff of a respectable AT side i followed for decades. Nope.

 

[mikeymikec]

I just showed you guys.
What is steve evidence for him to act this way to spend half a video mocking Asus of being incompetent with voltage application, which we know now is his incorrect interpretation of his incorrect measured points.
What is his next move if we deemed such attacks are baseless now? Apologise and mend bridges is what i suggested

You led with a baseless ad hominem and later posted an irrelevant video including an Asus guy testing a newer BIOS than what GN was testing and you accused GN of improper testing.

The first GN video does not involve lots of mocking:

The second one does, but they're calling Asus out not because of the problem but because of Asus's response to it:

You keep saying "we", from what I see there's only you.

 

[H T C]

Stupid question time!

What's stopping GN's Steve from testing the "problematic" BIOSes the same way that "supposedly paid by ASUS" dude did?

In that dude's video, he tested the "fixed" BIOS: what about the "problematic" BIOSes?

 

[dccc]

You led with a baseless ad hominem and later posted an irrelevant video including an Asus guy testing a newer BIOS than what GN was testing and you accused GN of improper testing.

The first GN video does not involve lots of mocking:

The second one does, but they're calling Asus out not because of the problem but because of Asus's response to it:

You keep saying "we", from what I see there's only you.

My last advice is, no one is infallible, no need to put GN up the pedestal, and you can’t push for good ethics from these large corps and then not conduct your own.

I only link you videos that present another dataset to consider. The data is laid out bare for your consideration, ignore the colorful commentary and call-outs, make you own decision.
If you decide to go conspiracy-theory-y, so be it.

 

[mikeymikec]

My last advice is, no one is infallible, no need to put GN up the pedestal, and you can’t push for good ethics from these large corps and then not conduct your own.

I only link you videos that present another dataset to consider. The data is laid out bare for your consideration, ignore the colorful commentary and call-outs, make you own decision.
If you decide to go conspiracy-theory-y, so be it.

Ok, I'm done discussing this with you. You don't want to admit any fault even though I've pointed out you making multiple basic mistakes and you have attempted to deflect every time, and your advice is blatantly hypocritical.

 

[aigomorla]

FYI...
ASUS is making you pay for your burnt boards to be mailed in for RMA.

Online RMA Instructions | Official Support | ASUS USA

^Read Step 2

I am hearing people are having to pay 15 dollars for shipping. LOL.

Thanks a lot ASUS.

Your probably better emailing GN and asking if they are still taking dead boards.
Steve pays for shipping and the price you paid for a new board entirely.