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rockhard

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Its great saying how wonderful Asus is if you dont have probs.
Trouble is when you do they are totally unresponsive so your buggered
The CUSI-FX is a class example.
Aimed at integrated Corporate market. Integrated LAN with Bootrom support.
Trouble is Bootrom support not compatible with Win2K Server RIS OS deployment.
That adds up to a product that IMO fails in the market its aimed at and they are not making any efforts to remedy the problem or at least acknowledge it.

If this is how Asus treats its products support, fraid everyone saying how marvellous they are, just kidding themselves till the day they have a problem like mine. Then Asus not be so marvellous for them

Sorry for my rant, im so pi$$ed at Asus as you can probably tell.
 

LXi

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<<The MSI i815ep is a better offering than a CUSL2-C, but it aint better offering than the CUSL2. The CUSL2 offers 7 usb, iPanel support, AGP4x Pro, 2 CNR, 82802AB Firmware Hub, and VGA out.>>

7 USB is overkill, noone needs all those. iPanel support is useless unless you pay for the iPanel, 2 CNR and AGP Pro are like nothing. And the MSI 815E also has VGA out, in fact, all i815E boards have VGA out and 82802AB southbridge. Now it's my turn, MSI i815EP has D-LED, Asus never had a similar tech, PC2PC is a tech used by MSI to LAN up two machines using USB, and the MSI has IDE RAID.


<<I got my CUSL2 for $80>>

I dont know what kinda deal you got, but its $128 on pricewatch, compare to $97 for the MSI i815E. The MSI i815EP with RAID is only $107.


<<Xi Li: do you work for MSI?>>

I wish I do. How do know my name anyway?
 

rickn

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Bangsailio: it was new, just an OEM board

Well Xi Li, you are just harping on how ASUS is more expensive, they do add more options to most of their boards. You always downplay everyone elses products to try and make what you like sound so much better. It don't work, atleast not on me. I don't happen to be particulary fond of Promise controllers. And the 82802AB is not the southbridge, it is the Intel Firmware hub. They no longer make it.

I remember you from the Firing Squad Gamers.com forums
 

LXi

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Everything I said about Asus is true, you cant deny it now can you? I dont argue unless I have factual reasons. Yes, IMO MSI is a lot better, take it for what its worth, Im sure its less than the value of 1 cent because Im saying bad things about your motherboards. Im not trying to change your way of doing things, but why lock yourselves up with Asus? Is it like a sin to buy a non-Asus motherboard? Not very fond of Promise controllers? Well too bad, thats what Asus use themsleves, just not on their 815 line. Anyway, what does the firmware hub do? I got 82802AB mixed up with the 82801AB southbridge.
 

rickn

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Well, I have never had any issues with my ASUS boards, so what you say isnt relevant to my experiences. The 82802ab is just intel firmware (bios chip) it also has a RNG. As far as I know it was dropped awhile ago since encryption can be done thru other software and browsers have their own methods.
 

LXi

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I know a lot of people who have had great experience with Asus, in fact, myself had some great experiences with them, my two Asus boards are still running very strong, I was never disappointed in what they offered. I understand why you guys resist change, but its the only way to find out if Asus really is the best of all. And thanks for telling me what the firmware hub does.
 

LakerGod

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Wow...thanks for some of the replies. It was kinda difficult reading some of the techno lingo, but i'm working hard at getting it all down.
 

Dulanic

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IMO Asus got its great rep because it is basically one of the only MB makers that has time and time again always released stable boards. You think of one of the best Super 7 boards: P5A... 815: CUSL2... AMD 750: K7M... KX133: K7V... 850: P4T... KT133: A7V... KT133A: A7V133... Pro266: CUV266... Pro133: P3V4X... BX: P2B

In all these cases Asus boards were either one of the best or the best. Obviously in some cases there are other good boards, but Asus is always amoung the top. There were some cases were Asus was about the only one to come out with a good stable board with certain chipsets. Is Asus always the best? No probably not, but they have almost always been either the best or if not then atleast one of the best for each chipset. So even if your not sure which MB is the best for a certain chipset, you really never go wrong picking Asus. Thats how you get a good rep. Putting out a good board here and there can get you recognition... but doing it over and over again is what gets you the rep that Asus has earned. So while on some cases another MB might have 1 more feature or whatever, Asus has never ever done me wrong and until they do they will be my primary choice. Ive seen cases where another MB seems great until 3 weeks later people start noticing a problem, like the Pro2A or the KK266 problems(Sorry Lxi this wasnt a cheap shot at MSI it was just the first that came to mind, I also know the KK266 problems were fixed). So if I have to choose between a Asus board that gets 196.7 FPS and different board that gets 197... Im going to choose Asus.
 

Dulanic

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<< Asus got their reputation because of quality, stability, and performance, not overclocking. And ever since they entered the tweaking ring, they've been sacrificing quality and stability. >>



Considering their latest MBs.. A7V133 and P4T are very stable, top performers, and have the tweaking ability the rest do I cant agree with your statement at all.
 

julianf

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<< I feel Asus got their reputation for making rock solid, highly overclockable motherboards. The Asus P2B is prolly going to go into the Hall of Fame for being one of the most stable boards of all time. >>

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My p2b-ds is running two 550 mhz processors at 65-70 Degrees Celsius. still stable..
 

Sunner

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To me, Asus has allways been a safe bet.
I used to work with them once(worked as a support tech at an OEM), and they had a very low RMA%, and their handling of our RMA's was flawless.

And outside of work, I've used Asus and MSI boards, was about to try an Abit board, but one of my friends stepped on that mine instead.

MSI has been a mixed bag for me, they make GREAT boards sometimes, and, shall we say, not so great boards sometimes.
Asus OTOH has allways ranged between good, and GREAT, but never bad.
As for the price, well considdering we're talking about 20-30 bucks at most in most cases, who cares? That aint no kind of money.

One thing I never understand is why so many people RMA's their boards to Asus directly instead of letting it go through the vendor that they bought it from.
Doing the latter makes it easier for you, as well as for Asus.
Same thing about support, if there's a known problem with your board, the vendor is likely to know about it.

Heck I'd never dream of sending my board across the globe to Taiwan when I just go to the store where I bought it and get a new one(well a refurb most of the time, but a working one) in my hand.
 

ahfung

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This months alone I built 270 PC for my company with Asus mobo.

Out of the 90 CUSL2-C, only 1 CUSL2-C RMAed. A7V133 is even more impressive. 180 of them all working greatly.
 

MrBond

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I've got an old p133 system running on an asus board that has amazed me. The thing ran non-stop for almost two years straight as my workstation, maybe longer. I recently acquired it for sentimental value (and cause it's got an awesome server tower case), and the thing STILL runs like when it was new. I need to get Seti crunching on it, as it shouldn't just be sitting there serving files...

I bought my A7V on the recommendations of my cow-orkers. I checked the bechmarks it posted vs the Abit board, and the A7V was always either the first or second board in terms of speed. The abit was near the middle or the bottom, depending on the test. I never understood the popularity of the Abit athlon boards, except for the RAID capibilities of some. Maybe it's because people had such good luck with their abit BX based boards (I know I did) so they assumed the athlon boards would be just as fast.
 

LXi

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<<Considering their latest MBs.. A7V133 and P4T are very stable, top performers, and have the tweaking ability the rest do I cant agree with your statement at all.>>

Performance has always been there for them, some stability is still there(although I believe MSI can easily win if the test should extend beyond 48hrs), and I never denied the new Asus boards being tweakable. Rest assured, today's Asus is not the Asus we use to know, quality has gone down and that's quite obvious to a lot of people. The Asus we use to know don't have overclocking options, because thats not what earned their reputation.
 

rockhard

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Heh, u guys suxing up to Asus have really got me in stitches.

The CUSI-FX *ASUS* has been out for a while and one of its integral features is up till now, and still is BROKEN!
Asus WILL NOT acknowledge the problem. Asus will not investigate the problem. Asus couldnt give a damn.
Ive sent a stinker of a email to their tech support last night offering a complaint.
Lets see how long it takes for me to get a reply, let alone a resolution of the problem.
I will make a point of popping up status of this complaint on this thread so that all the Asus fan boys can explain this state of affairs to me


 

Midnight Rambler

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<< You're clearly speaking without actual facts behind this bold statement. Asus boards from the past, back when they earned their reputation, were never overclocking/tweaking motherboards. They were high quality, stable, and high performance boards. Just look at their early BX offerings for some examples, they were using jumpers to overclock, with a very limited amount of tweaking options. >>

Boy, you sure take things personal. Not to mention contradict yourself. You say their past mobos were not overclocking/tweaking mobos, and that when they went to such features, their quality went down. Yet you cite their BX boards as an example of their good quality, and it is, as you noted, capable of overclocking. That's double talk. And just because a mobo might not have a &quot;Softmenu&quot; or similar system for tweaking does not mean it is not a capable overclocker. In the old days, jumpers were our only option. I assume you remember these days, or is that before your time?


<< Of course, I had more experience with Asus than you, I've used more than just the CUSL2, have you? Just ask any experienced system integrator, Im not going to argue with you here because you're not going to buy anything I say anyway. >>

What makes you so darn sure you have more experience with Asus boards than I? You seem to be having an ego trip here. What type of CPU was your first DIY system based on? 386 here, son. And no I won't be buying anything you recommend, because if ANYONE on this Forum is overly biased and totally pig-headed towards only recommending a certain company it is you LXi. In your world, the only good motherboard is an MSI and the only monitor worth a darn is a Samsung. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black ...


<< Im very dissappointed in you, Midnight, you're still iracible on this topic. In my experience they have always been decent motherboards, or else I wouldnt own three of them. Dont take it too personally, I've gotten over these type of arguments. But before you start bashing others, you need to realize that Asus sure as hell aint the only one that knows how to make a motherboard >>

Just further proof of what I said above. And BTW, I didn't bash anyone, do you see anyone's name called out specifically in my post? No, you don't. But you sure like to make it personal, now don't you. Finally, I have made many a post where I recommended something other than an Asus motherboard. And in my experience over the years I have used Supermicro, Micronics, Tyan, Aopen, Intel, Asus, and even Abit (the early BH6's were good board), plus a few others I wished I wouldn't have. Fact is, whenever there is a poll here on AT for &quot;best motherboard&quot;, you will almost always find Intel as my answer. Anyhow, you seem to get a major a hair up every time someone makes a postive comment about an Asus motherboard. Do you spend your time seeking out every thread you can possibly find about Asus mobos and then crap in it? No wonder you got all the posts to become Elite.

I'm more than very disappointed in you LXi ...

PS. - Please feel free to take another shot or two at me. But don't worry, this will be my last post on the matter. I already sank as low as I care to with this one, and it's not worth wasting any more time or space over.
 

rockhard

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<< The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=ASUS;l=ACIES0106050128M17AVH4M
MSEXCH:IMS:ASUS:ASUSTPE1:ASUSTPE7 3901 (000B09AA) Delivery canceled by administrator
>>



Well for all the Asus fan boys out there, this is the kind of support you will get when you hit a show stopping fault with their products.
Soon as you start to pester them for some help with their products their administrator just returns your mail as theyre not interested in dealing with it!

Would have been far better if they had acknowledged my mail and offered to look into it for me.

Good luck to all u Asus fans when you hit an out of the ordinary show stopper like i did

I wont be buying Asus again.
 
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