ASUS Notebook Barebones A2000H

niggles

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ok, so I've been convinced not to go Celeron.... So in order to keep in the same price range I was going to attempt to go do it yourself.... this leads me to the Asus A2000H which is a bare bones system.... Anyone like or dislike this thing? I can't really find much about it, but it's a great concept. I'm trying to figure out, does this use a desktop processor as I can't find anyone selling mobile processors locally. Also what's this graphics card like? Can't find a thing on it.
 

niggles

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Also wanted to point out while bumping this a little that they use a desktop processor on this, not a mobile. Having said this how much hotter does a desktop run... will I need to be super aware of the heat? How much more power will this thing draw? I can't find anywhere what the battery life is like... I can't believe I'm the first person to look at this thing on this forum. It sounds like a great concept because it's so much cheaper than, well, anything else. I'm just not sure how well they've excecuted this is all.
 

Naruto

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Graphics = suck

I have a barebones setup, the Asus Degatto 1500T which is very similiar. It has the same chipset, so it has the same integrated graphics. The graphics really suck - only plan to play games up to q3a or wc3 @ 800x600x16 or less. I stuck in my spare northwood and its pretty fast. It doesn't get hot, but it gets pretty warm after playing one of the above games for a while. Mine comes with an external battery, which probably will only last 2 hrs max. But I just needed mobile computing so I can download off the school's T1. I also opted not to go for some cheapo celeron laptop, so thats how I ended up with this. But I feel the graphics are the only thing bad in this laptop and would like at least ati mobility 9000. It's also heavy - 8lbs and 1.8" thick. If you want some gaming, good luck finding a barebones with an ati mobility 9000 built in. Your best choice then is to find a great deal on a dell. I paid $720 for mine in the end with 2.3ghz intel p4 (oc from 1.6a), 512mb pc2700, 30gb hd, 802.11b cardbus, 15" xga, and the works.
 

niggles

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wow, thanks for getting back to me.... I can't believe no one else is doing a barebones... also, I wonder how hard it would be to make a barebones with an upgradable graphics card... I mean if Dell is now offering an upgradable laptop, on the GPU, surely it would be a no brainer for a barbones notepad. Interesting about the battery. Am I to understand that the battery is an entirely seperate unit? You say that the battery is external, just want to check. Just out of curiosity, what are you running in terms of RAM? It's just that the integrated graphics assigns RAM to the GPU based on the inherent RAM on the system.
 

Naruto

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Originally posted by: niggles
wow, thanks for getting back to me.... I can't believe no one else is doing a barebones... also, I wonder how hard it would be to make a barebones with an upgradable graphics card... I mean if Dell is now offering an upgradable laptop, on the GPU, surely it would be a no brainer for a barbones notepad. Interesting about the battery. Am I to understand that the battery is an entirely seperate unit? You say that the battery is external, just want to check. Just out of curiosity, what are you running in terms of RAM? It's just that the integrated graphics assigns RAM to the GPU based on the inherent RAM on the system.

Yeah I thought so too, its just that these companies are too afraid to think outside the box to include an agp port. I really think that it was a stupid choice of asus, being stuck with this Sis graphics is horrible and mocks the rest of the laptop components. There is one barebone kit, the ECS i-buddie a980 that offers an agp port for a specifically made 32mb geforce 4 go module, but the module is sold in only one place and it cost $80. I am not sure if the agp port or the space for it can be modded to use another module (like a dell m9). I have seen dell m9 64mb modules sell for only $20 on ebay, so it would have been great if my barebone did have an agp.

My kit had an external battery, because it is based on the desknote idea. The external battery allows more room for components, which I believe should have been used on an agp port as well. Your A2000H i believe has an internal battery.

As for the ram, I am using 512mb pc2700 standard 184-pin desktop ram. My barebone only had one dimm so I had to use 1 stick of 512. I allocated 64mb to the vga and it made the overall performance in wc3 alot better, but still mediocre considering its the graphic's core that is the big bottleneck. Even with a decent bandwith from the ram, the core graphics is just horrible. Some barebones use sodimm instead.

My advice is avoid desknotes or barebones for now because they haven't matured yet. People want to see desknotes with a standardized laptop agp port with a compartment that allows for all sorts of vga modules. I think the new Dell Inspiron XPS is just overkill. Dells idea makes the size too big. I personally believe a compartment can be used similiar to a laptop harddrive compartment. The compartment should be certain dimensions that allows many vga modules of all sizes to fit and a agp port to plug into. Yesterday I found two auctions for ECS laptops on ebay. They were more geared as laptops than notebooks and both ended around $850. They were fully loaded too and had ati m9 graphics.

I think I got a great deal on my desknote. For that price and power, it kills celeron notebooks. And other notebooks with ati m9 graphics and either a p4, p4-m, or centrino cost at least $200 to $300 more.
 

Naruto

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M9 stands for mobility 9000. Its much better than the 7500 in that it has full dx8.1 support like vertex and pixel shaders. Its kinda like a sub Geforce 3 ti200 level graphics, which is more than enough for laptop gaming. The Sis m650 integrated gfx are like pre geforce level, more like first generation riva tnt.
 

niggles

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well thanks, I'll post in a new posting about this other barebones you're talking about. It does interest me.

Thanks again
 

stilz

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im curious as how you would fit a desktop CPU and especially its bulk heatsink/fan into a notebook set-up. im currently looking for a cheap used notebook, so happened to come across this area.
 
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