Asus Rog Swift PG278Q

[Black Octagon]

My Overlord hits 120Hz real easily, as do many others. Forums are naturally dominated by people needing help so no surprise if you read them and feel that 'ooh, all these people can't quite hit 120hz.'

Take a look at the user reviews on Overlord's website for a better idea of how pleased people are by this monitor.

Regarding the ASUS: this review by TFT is great, I just wish one didn't need an NVIDIA card to use the ULMB mode

 

[Mondozei]

By the way, here's an important quote from the OC3D review:

Colour is fantastic too. This might be a TN panel in the specifications, but if it is it's one of the best we've ever seen. Incredible colour reproduction and even the blackness, or what is usually greyness, is outstanding for a panel of this type.

As I said: TN-panels are making huge strides. People, certainly those who aren't as fast to adapting to new realities, aren't making huge strides in updating their view of reality.

But over time, even the laggards will come to understand that the world is changing and the old rules no longer apply. It wouldn't surprise me at all if we reached a point in 3-4 years when TN-panels could go up to the best of the mainstream IPS displays and win in some categories that were previously unthinkable.

 

[Grooveriding]

My Overlord hits 120Hz real easily, as do many others. Forums are naturally dominated by people needing help so no surprise if you read them and feel that 'ooh, all these people can't quite hit 120hz.'

Take a look at the user reviews on Overlord's website for a better idea of how pleased people are by this monitor.

Regarding the ASUS: this review by TFT is great, I just wish one didn't need an NVIDIA card to use the ULMB mode

I've been toying with the idea of getting one for a while now. There are a few quibbles with them I've always had trouble with. It's not being sure of the 120hz, then no certainty of not getting dead/bright pixels and that I'm in Canada and will have to deal with cross-border shipping hassles. Right now a good Dell IPS is still the best quality option and I think my next monitor will wind up being whatever their 32" 4K model is next year. 120hz would be nice to have on a secondary monitor for BF4 though.

I believe at some point we will see quality panels ship with 120hz, whether that will be IPS or IGZO is unknown. The only IGZO panel I'm even aware of is the one in the Asus 4K I owned, and 120hz with 4K is pointless at this time and for several years to come with the state of GPU power. EIZO has a 120hz VA screen, but VA is notoriously bad for input lag. I can game on an IPS and don't notice any lag, but on a VA screen my experience was terrible with lag.

 

[moonbogg]

$800 + two GPUs (which don't exist yet) = no buy....YET. I can see myself grabbing one of these or a competing product, if prices drop and Nvidia doesn't rape with 800 series mid range cards. Price has top come down. Too expensive for a resolution upgrade and the same old games. There's no games man!

 

[bystander36]

My Overlord hits 120Hz real easily, as do many others. Forums are naturally dominated by people needing help so no surprise if you read them and feel that 'ooh, all these people can't quite hit 120hz.'

Take a look at the user reviews on Overlord's website for a better idea of how pleased people are by this monitor.

Regarding the ASUS: this review by TFT is great, I just wish one didn't need an NVIDIA card to use the ULMB mode

I thought you only needed Nvidia for G-sync. ULMB should work on either card. The review site made no mention of needing Nvidia for ULMB either. It is a monitor mode, rather than something on the GPU.

 

[3DVagabond]

I thought you only needed Nvidia for G-sync. ULMB should work on either card. The review site made no mention of needing Nvidia for ULMB either. It is a monitor mode, rather than something on the GPU.

I wonder what is different on nVidia cards that allows them to run it that AMD cards don;t have?

 

[bystander36]

I wonder what is different on nVidia cards that allows them to run it that AMD cards don;t have?

UMLB works on both brands. G-sync is the only Nvidia required feature and it is likely mostly a software thing, but there could be some hardware features it uses.

 

[3DVagabond]

UMLB works on both brands. G-sync is the only Nvidia required feature and it is likely mostly a software thing, but there could be some hardware features it uses.

I was talking about G-sync.

Don't you think it would be good to know? A little transparency? Especially from a company like Asus, who makes products from both companies, AMD and nVidia. Why are they offering this feature to only some of their customers?

 

[MongGrel]

I'll pass, even if an Asus Fanboi on many things.

Last one I bought I guess, and was $400 then.

I'll sit on it awhile.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260115

 

[bystander36]

I was talking about G-sync.

Don't you think it would be good to know? A little transparency? Especially from a company like Asus, who makes products from both companies, AMD and nVidia. Why are they offering this feature to only some of their customers?

I really don't think Asus has anything to do with it. As far as the Nvidia side of things, I'm pretty certain they commented that it would start as an Nvidia feature, but made it sound like it was possible it could open up to AMD at some point. My guess is that means it's a software thing.

 

[3DVagabond]

I really don't think Asus has anything to do with it. As far as the Nvidia side of things, I'm pretty certain they commented that it would start as an Nvidia feature, but made it sound like it was possible it could open up to AMD at some point. My guess is that means it's a software thing.

I disagree with Asus not having anything to do with it. Their name is on the product. They are the ones responsible to the consumer for support.

I'm guessing it's purely a vendor lock, myself. It would be good to know for sure though.

 

[bystander36]

I disagree with Asus not having anything to do with it. Their name is on the product. They are the ones responsible to the consumer for support.

I'm guessing it's purely a vendor lock, myself. It would be good to know for sure though.

If Nvidia has it vendor locked, then Asus can't do anything about it. If Nvidia says they can't say something, Asus can't say anything.

And Nvidia has said it is vendor locked. So it is vendor locked. Whether or not it is strictly software that vendor locks it has not been mentioned as far as I know.

 

[Anarchist420]

One way you can be guaranteed 120 hz with the overlord is by using toastyx's tool to change the native res to 1920x1080. That is kind of what I wish I had gotten except i am not sure that the contrast ratio would be over 650:1. 850:1 is good enough for me, but anything lower than 800 would be a little too low.

personally, I dont see a whole lot of use for gsync with signal rates of 144 hz.

 

[omeds]

I see plenty of use, 144fps is not easy to maintain in a game like BF4.

 

[Black Octagon]

I thought you only needed Nvidia for G-sync. ULMB should work on either card. The review site made no mention of needing Nvidia for ULMB either. It is a monitor mode, rather than something on the GPU.

Did you read the same review as me? I quote:

"To make the most of the ROG Swift PG278Q you will want a suitable NVIDIA graphics card. The screen is designed in conjunction with NVIDIA and certain features including 3D Vision, G-sync and the Ultra Low Motion Blur (ULMB) mode only work with NVIDIA GPU's. You will need a graphics card from their range which supports G-sync, from the list provided on NVIDIA's website"

 

[bystander36]

Did you read the same review as me? I quote:

"To make the most of the ROG Swift PG278Q you will want a suitable NVIDIA graphics card. The screen is designed in conjunction with NVIDIA and certain features including 3D Vision, G-sync and the Ultra Low Motion Blur (ULMB) mode only work with NVIDIA GPU's. You will need a graphics card from their range which supports G-sync, from the list provided on NVIDIA's website"

We'll see, it has been said many times that ULMB will not require Nvidia. The rest of those items will. Heck, even Lightboost doesn't need it with a hack. The review likely made a slip up.

 

[jackstar7]

Funny how the "article" made a mix-up...

If it turns out that AMD can get several of the benefits of this monitor, then my interest goes up as we look to black friday or other possible sales...

 

[Flapdrol1337]

On amd it'll still be the most responsive 1440p screen. ULMB could maybe be turned on with the toastyx tool? not seen it tested yet.

Anyway, the main selling point of this screen is 1440p gsync. Not available on amd, but you can't blame asus for that. There's no adaptive sync hardware yet, once there is they'll probably make a variant with that as well.

 

[bystander36]

Does anyone know if 3D Vision will work at 1440p, or if it'll use scaling from 1080p?

 

[toyota]

Does anyone know if 3D Vision will work at 1440p, or if it'll use scaling from 1080p?

JJ said it will do 3D at 1440. all you had to do was google that.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

Not available on amd, but you can't blame asus for that.

Well, I can mindlessly rage at them for not releasing a non G-sync SKU with a non G-sync price tag.

 

[3DVagabond]

Well, I can mindlessly rage at them for not releasing a non G-sync SKU with a non G-sync price tag.

Well, considering you can get a 1ms resp time 4K monitor from Asus for ~$600 ($590 shipped) what would the non Gsync price be, do you think? $400? $500? I can't believe people are OK with this type of pricing!

 

[toyota]

Well, considering you can get a 1ms resp time 4K monitor from Asus for ~$600 ($590 shipped) what would the non Gsync price be, do you think? $400? $500? I can't believe people are OK with this type of pricing!

the 4k monitor is 60hz not 144hz.

 

[3DVagabond]

the 4k monitor is 60hz not 144hz.

I know that. What would you drive a 4K 144Hz monitor with? I believe you need DP1.3?

The screen is fast enough. Making it 144Hz (or 120Hz) wouldn't increase the cost significantly.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Anyone tried the Overlord 1440p monitor? It was reviewed at Tom's: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overlord-tempest-x270oc-monitor,3879.html

Something tells me that the glowing review is the result of a handpicked sample that could actually hit 120Hz. All user reviews I've seen mention that 110Hz is tops and that even that speed comes with coil whine.

Too bad - I really want to try a 120-144Hz LCD...but I'd never pay $800 for a TN panel like the Asus has.

I've had one for over a month. I can reach 120hz with no coil whine. fwiw - I did upgrade my dual link dvi-d cable to a 24AWG from monoprice, thick and hard to bend.