Asus Rog Swift PG278Q

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bystander36

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An unrelated question: can you do G-Sync and 144 Hz at the same time? The Hexus review implied that you couldn't. Just want a confirmation on yes/no.

As mentioned, it works at 144hz in G-sync mode. ULMB is limited to 120hz like Lightboost is.

However, Blurbusters has shown that you'll incur a frame of latency if you get too close to that 144 FPS (like V-sync does when you are at 144 FPS). As a solution to prevent that latency, they recommend a FPS cap below 140 FPS (they didn't test exact FPS limit required, but at 130 FPS, it is good).
 

Nebor

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As mentioned, it works at 144hz in G-sync mode. ULMB is limited to 120hz like Lightboost is.

I haven't tried ULMB or Lightboost because it seems like you have to change so many settings to enable them. Gsync seems to work well though, insofar as I don't see any tearing anymore.
 

kasakka

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I haven't tried ULMB or Lightboost because it seems like you have to change so many settings to enable them. Gsync seems to work well though, insofar as I don't see any tearing anymore.

Only things you have to change is V-Sync to something other than G-Sync and change refresh rate to 120 with the display's refresh rate change button. Quite easy really. Of course ULMB is best used for games that have very fast motion and/or run at very high frame rates.

For example I preferred playing the latest CoD's single player campaign with ULMB instead of G-Sync.
 

bystander36

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If this test fails to bother you then inversion artifacts are likely not an issue for your unit:
http://www.testufo.com/#test=inversion

I don't have the Asus, but I do have an older 120hz monitor. My monitor does not meet the ideal result in the inversion test or color test. However, in the several years I've owned it, I've never noticed anything like that in actual use. I'd have to guess that many people just aren't aware of an inversion problem unless they tested it.
 
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Could somebody explain to me why this monitor is so extraordinarily difficult to find and purchase? Thanks.
 

Nebor

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Only things you have to change is V-Sync to something other than G-Sync and change refresh rate to 120 with the display's refresh rate change button. Quite easy really. Of course ULMB is best used for games that have very fast motion and/or run at very high frame rates.

For example I preferred playing the latest CoD's single player campaign with ULMB instead of G-Sync.

It's not nearly as easy as just always playing with g-sync. If it were a single button to switch between it I might try it now and again. But the nvidia control panel is painful enough to deal with, plus the "turbo" button on this monitor seems unpredictable.
 

Black Octagon

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I don't have the Asus, but I do have an older 120hz monitor. My monitor does not meet the ideal result in the inversion test or color test. However, in the several years I've owned it, I've never noticed anything like that in actual use. I'd have to guess that many people just aren't aware of an inversion problem unless they tested it.


Indeed, the test is originally designed to expose worst-case scenario artifacts. Whether you see this and are bothered by it during regular use will depend on your own sensitivity and on your luck in the panel lottery. Pixel inversion artifacts can occur on pretty much any LCD display though I understand that they're much less of an issue on quality IPS panel. Read this to learn more: http://www.techmind.org/lcd/index.html#inversion
 

Black Octagon

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Tested this. I do see the vertical lines. It shows up on all my monitors, so I don't really see what this issue is. I've never noticed this artifact before, so I really don't understand why anyone would make a fuss about this.

Which monitors are those? On my overclocked IPS, I pass the tests:
http://youtu.be/pEfXL0-w8dA and http://youtu.be/zSwfi_LtnAI

Sorry for the crappy phone quality and the YouTube stutter. On my screen it's very smooth.

Why would anyone make a fuss about this? Well, 'fuss' is perhaps too strong a word. My issue is that, after TFTCentral's review of the Swift, some people called IPS fans like myself 'TN bashers' or variants of the same. Look, they said, TFTCentral has shown that TN panels can have effectively as good image quality as IPS; let's put this war to bed.

And I agree, the Swift has excellent colour capabilities for a TN. However, as TFTCentral says, it still suffers from poor viewing angles. Moreover, perhaps Unfortunately, TFTCentral's review does not appear to contain any inversion tests. This is perhaps a little strange, because after TFTCentral's review of the Eizo Foris FG2421 a year ago, it seemed like such tests were set to become a standard feature of TFTCentral reviews. In the Foris review, inversion artifacts were only an issue when the 'Turbo 240' feature was enabled, but not when enabled. This suggests that it is worth including tests like this for high performance gaming monitors (like the SWIFT), that support high refresh rates, motion blur technologies and other advanced features.

After all, when spending 500-plus bucks on a monitor, you want to be sure that your purchase is genuinely ticking as many boxes as possible.
 

Black Octagon

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Basically you don't want to see flicker, and you want the two images to look as similar as possible.
 

JoeRambo

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The only "quality" problem i have with my Swift is TN viewing angles, they took like 1 week to get used to (will prolly help my spine in long run as well).

Other than that it's amazing piece of hardware. It has that holy trinity of fast panel/low input lag + high refresh rate/FPS + high quality settings/GSYNC.

About that inversion stuff - I guess some ppl are more sensitive to it, just like in CRT days refresh rate, for me 75hz was good enough, for my friend 85 was minimum and 60hz was disaster.
 

kasakka

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It's not nearly as easy as just always playing with g-sync. If it were a single button to switch between it I might try it now and again. But the nvidia control panel is painful enough to deal with, plus the "turbo" button on this monitor seems unpredictable.
The turbo button requires motion to work. Just scrolling a webpage up and down while pressing the turbo button works. I have no idea why it works like that but since games are on the move constantly, it works seamlessly there.

It would be nice if you could toggle G-sync just by turbo button or at least from a desktop shortcut.
 

bystander36

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Basically you don't want to see flicker, and you want the two images to look as similar as possible.

Similar, or identical? They look similar, but if you look close, you see stripes and the stripes alternate between themselves. But if I just don't focus on it, I don't see it. It sounds like even yours doesn't pass, as you do see a difference.
 

OlyAR15

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Which monitors are those? On my overclocked IPS, I pass the tests:
http://youtu.be/pEfXL0-w8dA and http://youtu.be/zSwfi_LtnAI

Sorry for the crappy phone quality and the YouTube stutter. On my screen it's very smooth.

Why would anyone make a fuss about this? Well, 'fuss' is perhaps too strong a word. My issue is that, after TFTCentral's review of the Swift, some people called IPS fans like myself 'TN bashers' or variants of the same. Look, they said, TFTCentral has shown that TN panels can have effectively as good image quality as IPS; let's put this war to bed.

And I agree, the Swift has excellent colour capabilities for a TN. However, as TFTCentral says, it still suffers from poor viewing angles. Moreover, perhaps Unfortunately, TFTCentral's review does not appear to contain any inversion tests. This is perhaps a little strange, because after TFTCentral's review of the Eizo Foris FG2421 a year ago, it seemed like such tests were set to become a standard feature of TFTCentral reviews. In the Foris review, inversion artifacts were only an issue when the 'Turbo 240' feature was enabled, but not when enabled. This suggests that it is worth including tests like this for high performance gaming monitors (like the SWIFT), that support high refresh rates, motion blur technologies and other advanced features.

After all, when spending 500-plus bucks on a monitor, you want to be sure that your purchase is genuinely ticking as many boxes as possible.

I also tested this on a Dell Ultrasharp 3014 and an NEC LCD2690WUXi, both are much more expensive than the ROG Swift, both are IPS screens but limited to 60 Hz. Never had an issue with them that this test supposedly unmasks. Also see it on my iPad.

Honestly, I think some people make a big deal out of nothing, purposely searching for flaws that don't make much of a practical difference.
 

Raskolnikov

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Why is this still backordered?!

Anyone knows an outlet that ships to Canada isn't involved in price gouging like the Amazon Canada resellers, who started offering the monitor for $2000 CDN?

I ordered one with Amazon France, but despite showing as in stock, the item has not passed the stage of "order received, " since November 27th. $1043 CDN with VAT, customs, expedited S&H.
 

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Why is this still backordered?!

Anyone knows an outlet that ships to Canada isn't involved in price gouging like the Amazon Canada resellers, who started offering the monitor for $2000 CDN?

I ordered one with Amazon France, but despite showing as in stock, the item has not passed the stage of "order received, " since November 27th. $1043 CDN with VAT, customs, expedited S&H.

If you are in Canada, just put your name down on the backorder at NCIX.

I only needed to wait for a couple of days at launch to get mine. From my understanding, NCIX gets batches of them every 2-3 weeks.

I also got a really good panel from them at launch as mine has very minimal bleed at the bottom when on max brightness with a black screen and 0 dead pixels.
 

Raskolnikov

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Was just told that my Amazon France order has been delayed to December 12. :'( Had been misleadingly advertised as in stock.

Going to pre-order on NCIX and wait like everyone else I guess.

#firstworldproblems #thanksobama
 
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OlyAR15

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Are you sure a French market monitor is going to work here? IIRC, France uses 220V, 50Hz AC.
 

bystander36

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Are you sure a French market monitor is going to work here? IIRC, France uses 220V, 50Hz AC.

When a PC hooks up to anything, they get what ever refresh rate is available. Do you really think that these 144hz don't work in France? They work in the USA, and we use 60hz on TVs.

As far as the plug in, you'll likely have to buy a different power cord, or use one laying around from another monitor.
 
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