Asus Rog Swift PG278Q

[BrightCandle]

Its here, its preorderable. 1440p, 144hz, 8 bit colour and gsync all in one single monitor package. To top it off the colour quality is excellent, the latency is 2.9ms on average and the AMA is really well done with a slight overshoot. Its damn near perfect.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus_rog_swift_pg278q.htm

If it wasn't so ludicrously expensive every gamer with Nvidia cards would be buying one.

 

[jackstar7]

If this thing didn't basically demand nV GPUs, I'd be down for it. Hopefully someone will figure out some hacks so at least the blur reduction will be available to AMD users.

And maybe by then the price will have come down a bit...

 

[Canbacon]

Here are two other reviews of the panel.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/asus_rog_pg278q_swift_g-sync_monitor_review/1
http://www.kitguru.net/peripherals/...-144hz-g-sync-monitor-w-gtx-780ti-rog-matrix/


I'm torn for this or the ACER 4k G-Sync panel that was announced as well.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8054/acer-4k-gsync-monitor

 

[Grooveriding]

If it wasn't so ludicrously expensive every gamer with Nvidia cards would be buying one.

The review is full of constant caveats 'for a TN it's great' 'good.. for a TN'

Great monitor for high refresh rates, low input lag and gsync with a high resolution. Bad monitor in all other aspects.

 

[toyota]

having not looked at reviews yet I assume it has typical color shift found on "lower quality" TN panels?

 

[bunnyfubbles]

The review is full of constant caveats 'for a TN it's great' 'good.. for a TN'

Great monitor for high refresh rates, low input lag and gsync with a high resolution. Bad monitor in all other aspects.

by that logic, all LCD monitors not using TN are complete garbage when it comes to motion clarity, even the overclocked IPS.

having impeccable color accuracy is pretty meaningless when its just a blurry smear of nonsense when in motion, and highly delayed as well.

 

[Flapdrol1337]

thanks for the heads up brightcandle.

First "real" review I've seen of this thing.

 

[3DVagabond]

Preorder where, and for how much?

 

[yours truly]

I could never go back to IPS if it's just 60-85hz. It looks so juddery now. I ditched my U2410 for an Asus 144hz and even though I hate almost everything about this monitor - terrible bad light bleed, poor viewing angles, washed out colours, bad connectors at the back etc, the smoothness of a high refresh rate makes up for it.

I love the look of this monitor, it's bezel is quite thin. Three of these would be immense.

I think I'd be happy with one and I'd take it over any 4K monitor at the moment.

 

[BrightCandle]

I am seeing preorders in the UK at scan.co.uk and overclockers.co.uk. Its around £700.

 

[Canbacon]

720 for the UK and 799 for US.

 

[bystander36]

I was hoping the price wouldn't be as high as they hinted it would be several months ago. I guess I can't dream anymore.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

This monitor seems perfect other than the price point.

 

[3DVagabond]

This monitor seems perfect other than the price point.

Perfect? Nah. They did do a lot of things right with it though. Good gaming features and performance, for sure. Price is totally dumb! If I were buying today I'd take the 4k Sammy or Asus @ $600-$700 first, or a 27" IPS that can be O/C'd for ~1/2 the price.

I'm waiting a few more months though to see what happens with FreeSync. There should be press samples in the next few weeks.

 

[Termie]

Anyone tried the Overlord 1440p monitor? It was reviewed at Tom's: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overlord-tempest-x270oc-monitor,3879.html

Something tells me that the glowing review is the result of a handpicked sample that could actually hit 120Hz. All user reviews I've seen mention that 110Hz is tops and that even that speed comes with coil whine.

Too bad - I really want to try a 120-144Hz LCD...but I'd never pay $800 for a TN panel like the Asus has.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Perfect? Nah. They did do a lot of things right with it though. Good gaming features and performance, for sure. Price is totally dumb! If I were buying today I'd take the 4k Sammy or Asus @ $600-$700 first, or a 27" IPS that can be O/C'd for ~1/2 the price.

I'm waiting a few more months though to see what happens with FreeSync. There should be press samples in the next few weeks.

I was set on getting the ASUS 4K monitor but the reviews on Newegg coupled with the the scaling issues and amount of GPU horsepower required scared me away.

I honestly don't mind good TN panels at all even though I've used plenty of IPS panels. The difference is overated and IPS black levels are usually terrible. That said the Dell U2414H looks very interesting. On one hand I don't game anywhere near as much as I used to so an IPS would be nice, on the other hand I'd really like a 144Hz monitor with no motion blur. Then there is the matter of having two 24" displays or one 27" display for coding. Decisions, decisions!

 

[3DVagabond]

Anyone tried the Overlord 1440p monitor? It was reviewed at Tom's: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overlord-tempest-x270oc-monitor,3879.html

Something tells me that the glowing review is the result of a handpicked sample that could actually hit 120Hz. All user reviews I've seen mention that 110Hz is tops and that even that speed comes with coil whine.

Too bad - I really want to try a 120-144Hz LCD...but I'd never pay $800 for a TN panel like the Asus has.

Do you really need 120Hz? How about 90Hz, even?

 

[jackstar7]

Anyone tried the Overlord 1440p monitor? It was reviewed at Tom's: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overlord-tempest-x270oc-monitor,3879.html

Something tells me that the glowing review is the result of a handpicked sample that could actually hit 120Hz. All user reviews I've seen mention that 110Hz is tops and that even that speed comes with coil whine.

Too bad - I really want to try a 120-144Hz LCD...but I'd never pay $800 for a TN panel like the Asus has.

I've had mine for almost 2 years and it took some doing, as it was all being figured out at that point, but I have had 120Hz since then. And some folks get up to 130Hz. While 120Hz is not guaranteed, it's pretty likely. But even at 96Hz, the difference is very clear.

 

[Grooveriding]

I've been tempted by the Overlord 1440p IPS overclock models as well. On their forums so many people don't hit 120. I'd probably be fine with 90+, but know I'd be annoyed if I couldn't do 120.

I figure eventually we will get a manufacturer who will put out a stock 120hz IPS screen. They could charge a massive premium on it, I would pay $500 on top of normal sticker price to get one.

 

[Termie]

I've had mine for almost 2 years and it took some doing, as it was all being figured out at that point, but I have had 120Hz since then. And some folks get up to 130Hz. While 120Hz is not guaranteed, it's pretty likely. But even at 96Hz, the difference is very clear.

So no coil whine or any other nasty side effects of overclocking (perhaps overheating???).

That looks pretty ideal to me for gaming, and 96Hz would be fine with me (I think, not having used a high-Hz monitor).

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

I've been tempted by the Overlord 1440p IPS overclock models as well. On their forums so many people don't hit 120. I'd probably be fine with 90+, but know I'd be annoyed if I couldn't do 120.

I figure eventually we will get a manufacturer who will put out a stock 120hz IPS screen. They could charge a massive premium on it, I would pay $500 on top of normal sticker price to get one.

According to ASUS you'd need am IGZO panel to switch fast enough and that would cost $$$.

 

[Grooveriding]

According to ASUS you'd need am IGZO panel to switch fast enough and that would cost $$$.

Sign me up!

I don't put much stock in that because we have seen IPS panels do 120hz. But it could be that they can't reliably produce those results in a way that they'd be comfortable delivering a product to market and warranting it.

If it takes IGZO I am fine with that, I had an IGZO briefly, and it was better PQ than my IPS.

 

[jackstar7]

So no coil whine or any other nasty side effects of overclocking (perhaps overheating???).

That looks pretty ideal to me for gaming, and 96Hz would be fine with me (I think, not having used a high-Hz monitor).

Coil whine can be a thing for some people, but it's all about a particular choke that can be epoxied or otherwise quieted if it really gets to you.

I believe mine does have whine, but I have to strain to actually hear it.

I'm not trying to over-hype the Overlord as a perfect monitor. I personally was asking them repeatedly to try and develop a Displayport-only version that OC'd to basically avoid the limits of DVI and keep the low lag from the single-input. It was apparently cost-prohibitive from an R&D standpoint.

But I've been satisfied with mine and definitely have no regrets about it. I enjoyed helping a start-up get off the ground, too.

I'd say visit the boards they have and ask questions there. Lots of people know more than I do about more technical aspects.

 

[jackstar7]

I've been tempted by the Overlord 1440p IPS overclock models as well. On their forums so many people don't hit 120. I'd probably be fine with 90+, but know I'd be annoyed if I couldn't do 120.

I figure eventually we will get a manufacturer who will put out a stock 120hz IPS screen. They could charge a massive premium on it, I would pay $500 on top of normal sticker price to get one.

You should just email Scribby at Overlord. I'm sure he'd poke around a few and test them up to 120 if you made good on that premium (or negotiated something fair). At least I know I would...

 

[Mondozei]

People's perceptions tend to change slowly, and usually lag behind reality.

Pcper.com, not exactly a bunch of casuals, more or less stated that the TN-panels in the Samsung & Asus 4K panels had brilliant color reproduction, not quite as high as the best IPS-based ones, but certainly far, far better than any other TN-based panel in the past.

We're coming to a point where the audio debate was 10 years ago as you started to see really high-quality mp3 files, with nostalgics claiming that vinyl was always better(meanwhile independent tests of self-proclaimed "audio experts" showed they often couldn't hear a difference).

And we'll probably see something similar with TN/IPS panels going forward. TN-panels are seeing huge improvements each generation and the kinds you see in 4K panels and in Swift are far and away better than anything we've seen in that space before.

Finally, let me just end by saying that you can actually have a 100+ Mhz IPS panel with very good motion clarity, it is technically feasible. It's more expensive but not by a huge amount. The reason why it isn't being made is in large part to segment the market. Fast motion? TN. Great color? IPS. Well the TN-panels going forward are going to blur the distinction of the latter. It's possible for IPS panels to do the same on the former, and I'm assuming that may indeed become the case going forward.

It'll be like the whole LCD/AMOLED debate in the smartphone space. LCD used to be superior in every way but slowly and surely, AMOLED caught up generation by generation(even if people's perceptions lagged as usual). Now it's more of a preference; do you want better viewing in sunlight? Better battery while browsing or while watching movies? Popped colors? Etc.