Asus Rog Swift PG278Q

[DigDog]

Most 27 inch 1080p lightboost panels are around 450-500$, and you're saying that this is 500$ more? 500$ more than what?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-375-_-Product

You're comparing the price of a 24 inch 1080p panel? Well golly gee, a smaller screen and lower resolution is less expensive. This panel is 1440p + 8 bit, and yeah it's expensive. You can certainly exercise your option to not buy it, but your 500$ over for lightboost is simply wrong. Number one, there is no other 1440p lightboost panel, and this has g-sync as well. It also covers the full adobe RGB spectrum with 8 bit color. Not that color accuracy matters for games, but it's there. If you want a low resolution 1080p lightboost screen, they're in the 450-500 ballpark.

you can get a 2ms lightboost monitor for around $300, if i recall correctly. maybe a hunner bux more.
1440 isn't an advantage; you will find many non-AAA titles don't even have 1440 as a setting.
the thing about this monitor (from the republic of GAMERS brand) is that its got G-Sync, which is useful for games with FAST MOVING IMAGES, so, driving games, shooters, and, driving games, and shooters.
a whole 4 different kind of games.

yes, $800 is expensive. £750 is even more expensive which is what it costs in the other 2/3 of the world.

its expensive because it's the first. they'll get cheaper.

 

[toyota]

"1440 isn't an advantage; you will find many non-AAA titles don't even have 1440 as a setting"

examples?

 

[Sheninat0r]

Yeah it doesn't make sense. This is a technology forum where people are swapping out parts and overclocking CPU's and GPU's for sometimes marginal improvements. Asus bring a genuinely interesting product to market and some people are just yapping like dogs, barking for the sake of barking.

We get it, you don't like TN panels and nothing will change your mind. Good. Keep playing the waiting game for something better..

b-b-but muh ips, muh viewing angles, muh color accuracy!

i agree with you. ips isn't the be-all, end-all lcd panel type, and only excels for high-accuracy color work, and only then when the monitor is properly calibrated. i would bet my kidney that the majority of enthusiasts who brag about how great ips is don't own a colorimeter and don't even properly adjust brightness to reference levels. i myself have a nec lcd2490wuxi and their spectraview calibration kit; after the spectraview-branded colorimeter started drifting, i picked up a spyder 4.

tn has completely terrible viewing angles, yes. but ips has completely terrible response times and motion clarity, even compared to non-strobing tn panels.

this particular monitor has a better out-of-the-box calibration than most monitors regardless of panel type. that's an empirical fact which can't be denied, yet people still claim that this panel will look like crap because it's tn, disregarding the 8-bit panel (vs. 6-bit with 8-bit lut, as is common with cheap tn monitors) and measured color accuracy.

i am excited for it to become more widely available, even though i don't plan on buying one. as overpriced as it is, it will serve well in its role as a halo product: asus gets more attention and discussion, and other manufacturers will be pressured to compete. the only outcome here is positive for consumers.

 

[I/O]

"1440 isn't an advantage; you will find many non-AAA titles don't even have 1440 as a setting"

examples?

What he said.

 

[f1sherman]

Ten days till mass availability in Europe.

I have a hunch that 1st batch of these badboyz will sell in no time.

 

[kasakka]

1440 isn't an advantage; you will find many non-AAA titles don't even have 1440 as a setting.

I haven't had this issue in a long a time. I've been playing with a 2560x1600 display for years and the number of games that don't support that high resolution is limited.

Some indie games don't scale very well to higher resolution though. For example Gunpoint is nicer to play at 1920x1200 because the sprites are larger. Anything less though and you don't see as much of the playing area.

1440p requires lots of GPU power to run well but at the same time you can use lower antialiasing settings because there is less need for that due to the high resolution. For desktop use 1440p vs 1080p isn't even a contest.

Don't get too hung up on the 100+ fps thing either. It's perfectly fine to use ULMB or G-Sync even if you get lower fps. I'd rather have my games looking great than running at way over 60 fps.

On another note, I think personally I may be enjoying ULMB more than G-Sync on my Swift. I've been playing Bulletstorm and Far Cry 3 recently and they run like a charm. I felt that the clarity provided by ULMB trumped G-Sync in these games at least.

 

[DigDog]

well, at the moment i have quake and blacklight, and neither supports it.
so, 100%.
(pretty sure stalker doesnt support it, or fear, and dont get me started on Q1 and Q2.)

 

[bigbluefe]

well, at the moment i have quake and blacklight, and neither supports it.
so, 100%.
(pretty sure stalker doesnt support it, or fear, and dont get me started on Q1 and Q2.)

What are you talking about? Every Quake game supports every resolution from 320x200 to 3840x2160. You're wrong. Stop spreading misinformation.

I have both a 1600p and 1440p monitor, and almost every game I've tried (Quake and Stalker included) supports both resolutions.

 

[bigbluefe]

you can get a 2ms lightboost monitor for around $300, if i recall correctly. maybe a hunner bux more.
1440 isn't an advantage; you will find many non-AAA titles don't even have 1440 as a setting.
the thing about this monitor (from the republic of GAMERS brand) is that its got G-Sync, which is useful for games with FAST MOVING IMAGES, so, driving games, shooters, and, driving games, and shooters.
a whole 4 different kind of games.

yes, $800 is expensive. £750 is even more expensive which is what it costs in the other 2/3 of the world.

its expensive because it's the first. they'll get cheaper.

It's only useful for games with fast moving images? Like virtually every arcade game from 1982 to 2004 that MAME emulates? Like thousands of SNES, Genesis, NES, Saturn, and Playstation 1 games?

You realize that virtually every arcade game ran at a weird refresh rate, right? For example, Street Fighter 2 didn't run at 60hz. It ran at 59.637405hz. If you have a traditional monitor, your choices are either to run every arcade game without vsync and have horribly obnoxious tearing, or run every game with vsync and get hiccups and stuttering because they're running at the wrong refresh rate.

G-Sync is amazing for the emulation older games, and nobody even says anything about it. It's really kind of disgusting that sites like Anandtech completely ignore emulation. It tends to use modern hardware more than contemporary games, yet it's never benchmarked or mentioned.

I tested a G-Sync monitor with MAME, and it's flat out awesome. Mortal Kombat's scrolling is glass smooth even though the game runs at 54.706840hz. If you ever play classic games with emulators, G-Sync is a game changer.

 

[Qwertilot]

Sounds good Still if you just want g sync then it can of course be done rather more easily than this. ~£350 at 1900*1080, or (pending) 4k at ~£500.

Only 60hz for the latter though, so obvious reasons to potentially prefer the swift if you want really smooth, fast motion in some games and a fairly large resolution. (Or the ULMB stuff.).

 

[know of fence]

On another note, I think personally I may be enjoying ULMB more than G-Sync on my Swift. I've been playing Bulletstorm and Far Cry 3 recently and they run like a charm. I felt that the clarity provided by ULMB trumped G-Sync in these games at least.

Can you confirm that G-sync is unavailable at 1080p and 720p resolutions? Have you tested ULMB at 85 Hz, it should be noticeably brighter, it may even be less blurry though more stuttery.

 

[Flapdrol1337]

well, at the moment i have quake and blacklight, and neither supports it.
so, 100%.
(pretty sure stalker doesnt support it, or fear, and dont get me started on Q1 and Q2.)

Do you even have a 1440p monitor?

Most games read the edid and/or driver and will run at any resolution possible with the screen.

 

[blackened23]

you can get a 2ms lightboost monitor for around $300, if i recall correctly. maybe a hunner bux more.
1440 isn't an advantage; you will find many non-AAA titles don't even have 1440 as a setting.
the thing about this monitor (from the republic of GAMERS brand) is that its got G-Sync, which is useful for games with FAST MOVING IMAGES, so, driving games, shooters, and, driving games, and shooters.
a whole 4 different kind of games.

yes, $800 is expensive. £750 is even more expensive which is what it costs in the other 2/3 of the world.

its expensive because it's the first. they'll get cheaper.

MANY GAMES? There is no game in my huge steam library that DOESNT run at higher than 1080p. There might be one game out of 8000 that doesn't run at 1440p, but, WTH are you talking about?

As far as 1440p being not an advantage. Again, W T H. Yeah, 27 inches at 1080p and 27 inches at 1440p doesn't produce a superior image. What the hell?

 

[I/O]

MANY GAMES? There is no game in my huge steam library that DOESNT run at higher than 1080p. There might be one game out of 8000 that doesn't run at 1440p, but, WTH are you talking about?

As far as 1440p being not an advantage. Again, W T H. Yeah, 27 inches at 1080p and 27 inches at 1440p doesn't produce a superior image. What the hell?

He must be talking about his favorite DOS games that he still plays on his 486 LOL.

 

[kasakka]

Can you confirm that G-sync is unavailable at 1080p and 720p resolutions? Have you tested ULMB at 85 Hz, it should be noticeably brighter, it may even be less blurry though more stuttery.

Tried Bulletstorm, switched to 1080p. Monitor light was still red so G-Sync seems to work fine at 1080p.

I'm fine with ULMB @ 120 Hz, pulse width 90. The brightness is about the same as what I use on the desktop (brightness setting at 20).

 

[know of fence]

Tried Bulletstorm, switched to 1080p. Monitor light was still red so G-Sync seems to work fine at 1080p.

I'm fine with ULMB @ 120 Hz, pulse width 90. The brightness is about the same as what I use on the desktop (brightness setting at 20).

You could use fraps (dot com) to monitor your framerate or G-sync refresh rate, it's free and the Nvidia guy with the thick glasses seems to like it.

Seriously "ULMB for high FPS, Gsync for low FPS" is the worst possible takeaway from this, so now you have to worry to toggle between these settings every game, not to mention to switch off ULMB for desktop use.
I blame Asus for that one.
THE PG278Q owners will decide where monitor tech is going, unless some monitor manufacturer builds an adaptive sync & strobe monitor.

 

[kasakka]

You could use fraps (dot com) to monitor your framerate or G-sync refresh rate, it's free and the Nvidia guy with the thick glasses seems to like it.

Seriously "ULMB for high FPS, Gsync for low FPS" is the worst possible takeaway from this, so now you have to worry to toggle between these settings every game, not to mention to switch off ULMB for desktop use.
I blame Asus for that one.
THE PG278Q owners will decide where monitor tech is going, unless some monitor manufacturer builds an adaptive sync & strobe monitor.

I've actually left ULMB accidentally on on desktop several times now. I've configured it so that there is barely any difference in image and I haven't even noticed the strobing actually. The easiest way to toggle ULMB on the desktop is simply set the display to 144 Hz mode with the button on the display.

 

[spat55]

"1440 isn't an advantage; you will find many non-AAA titles don't even have 1440 as a setting"

examples?

State Of Decay doesn't have the setting plus afew others out of my 150+ games but they have been bad games anyway so that wouldn't of fixed that. All of the games that didn't support 2560x1440 always had a cfg file to get it working.

 

[Madpacket]

It's only useful for games with fast moving images? Like virtually every arcade game from 1982 to 2004 that MAME emulates? Like thousands of SNES, Genesis, NES, Saturn, and Playstation 1 games?

You realize that virtually every arcade game ran at a weird refresh rate, right? For example, Street Fighter 2 didn't run at 60hz. It ran at 59.637405hz. If you have a traditional monitor, your choices are either to run every arcade game without vsync and have horribly obnoxious tearing, or run every game with vsync and get hiccups and stuttering because they're running at the wrong refresh rate.

G-Sync is amazing for the emulation older games, and nobody even says anything about it. It's really kind of disgusting that sites like Anandtech completely ignore emulation. It tends to use modern hardware more than contemporary games, yet it's never benchmarked or mentioned.

I tested a G-Sync monitor with MAME, and it's flat out awesome. Mortal Kombat's scrolling is glass smooth even though the game runs at 54.706840hz. If you ever play classic games with emulators, G-Sync is a game changer.

Oh crap I didn't even think of this use case. You may have just sold me this monitor lol.

 

[toyota]

State Of Decay doesn't have the setting plus afew others out of my 150+ games but they have been bad games anyway so that wouldn't of fixed that. All of the games that didn't support 2560x1440 always had a cfg file to get it working.

literally about a 10 second fix for State of Decay though. http://steamcommunity.com/app/241540/discussions/0/666825524813857606/

luckily all of the games I have tried supported 2560x1440 right from the options menu.

 

[r3pshow]

Tom's hardware's review: Here

TweakTown's review: Here

 

[Sohaltang]

State Of Decay doesn't have the setting plus afew others out of my 150+ games but they have been bad games anyway so that wouldn't of fixed that. All of the games that didn't support 2560x1440 always had a cfg file to get it working.

Yup. I have a copy of FFXI that I will occasionally play. 12 year old game created the PS2. No default settings for 1440P but about 2 minutes on google and edit a cfg file and bam.. Games looks 10X better.

 

[Nebor]

Looks like B&H photo is taking pre-orders for $799 with free shipping. I'm waiting for Newegg or Amazon...

 

[Black Octagon]

I'm seeing occasional anecdotes that several games still crash when G-Sync is combined with SLI. If accurate, a little worrying, as there's perhaps greater need for multi-gpu support at this higher resolution

 

[ocre]

Where do u see this?