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Arcanedeath

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Digital Camcorders, Cameras, and External Hard drives all use firewire and it's faster and uses less cpu in the real world that USB2.
 

Sunner

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Damn, you guys really have to pay for those things, I saw one for ~$150.
Strange, usually you guys get all the stuff for lower prices
 

Zebo

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Chaintechs going to own you all and neweggs going to raise price to $165+ like they do on hot items. Better get in now if you want a NF4 mobo.
 

NightCrawler

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Chaintechs going to own you all and neweggs going to raise price to $165+ like they do on hot items. Better get in now if you want a NF4 mobo.


or wait and watch the price fall in the weeks ahead when more NF4 boards hit the market.
 

rpmcrash

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Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: Zebo
Chaintechs going to own you all and neweggs going to raise price to $165+ like they do on hot items. Better get in now if you want a NF4 mobo.


or wait and watch the price fall in the weeks ahead when more NF4 boards hit the market.

or wait and watch the price go up like the 6600 gt agp or any A64 CPU compared to a month ago.
 

littlepitel

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Originally posted by: Dug
Originally posted by: littlepitel
I'm basing that off of the features

Hate to break it to you. But the features are the same. Gigabyte will probably include extra usb connectors, and maybe a free wifi card, but that's it.

If you are basing it off that instead of performance, I feel sorry for you.

Are you guys kidding? The Chaintech only has 4 SATA ports where the Gigabyte has 8, no 1394b, only one gigabit lan port...
Definately not the same on features.
 

rpmcrash

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Originally posted by: littlepitel
Originally posted by: Dug
Originally posted by: littlepitel
I'm basing that off of the features

Hate to break it to you. But the features are the same. Gigabyte will probably include extra usb connectors, and maybe a free wifi card, but that's it.

If you are basing it off that instead of performance, I feel sorry for you.

Are you guys kidding? The Chaintech only has 4 SATA ports where the Gigabyte has 8, no 1394b, only one gigabit lan port...
Definately not the same on features.

its a value board. plain and simple. and will probably smoke the gigabyte board.
i just order it. will find out.
 

Pnoy02

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Performance > Features, who really needs 8 SATA ports? last time I check, most people only used 3 at best, 2 in raid and 1 extra drive. You could have more, but if you want huge amounts of HD space, IDE is the best solution.

Nightcrawler, I was just explaining to the guy who was wanting a firewire port, he could just get one without it standard on the mobo. The other Nforce 4s are 200 <, the chaintech HAS THE SAME CHIP on it but stripped to its bare essentials with a no posh design, no extra SATA, no Firewire, no Wifi, no SLI etc... all you get is the performance, some people are like that. They want the latest tech performance without paying for the unnecessary stuff that comes long with it. Sides a single powerful GPU > SLI IMHO.
 

littlepitel

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Originally posted by: Pnoy02
Performance > Features, who really needs 8 SATA ports?

I do, for video editing.
2 Raptors in RAID-1
2 Diamondmax 10 300 GB in RAID-0

If I ever want to get another HDD, or maybe get a SATA Optical drive, I'm out of luck.

Does the Chaintech even support NCQ?
 

Dug

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Originally posted by: littlepitel
Originally posted by: Dug
Originally posted by: littlepitel
I'm basing that off of the features

Hate to break it to you. But the features are the same. Gigabyte will probably include extra usb connectors, and maybe a free wifi card, but that's it.

If you are basing it off that instead of performance, I feel sorry for you.

Are you guys kidding? The Chaintech only has 4 SATA ports where the Gigabyte has 8, no 1394b, only one gigabit lan port...
Definately not the same on features.

The feature set is the standard Nforce4 Ultra reference for Chaintech. The Gigabyte board includes extra add on's.

The Gigabyte only overclocked to 217Mhz fsb at PC Stats. Lower than any other motherboard they've reviewed.
Compared to Gigabyte's own Nforce3 Ultra that hit 270Mhz it doesn't look good.
 

erikistired

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Originally posted by: littlepitel
Originally posted by: Pnoy02
Performance > Features, who really needs 8 SATA ports?

I do, for video editing.
2 Raptors in RAID-1
2 Diamondmax 10 300 GB in RAID-0

If I ever want to get another HDD, or maybe get a SATA Optical drive, I'm out of luck.

Does the Chaintech even support NCQ?

the chaintech board is in no way crap, it's simply a bare essentials board for those of us that don't want to spend top dollar on frills. i don't need firewire and certainly don't need 8 sata ports (or any for that matter at the moment) but i wouldn't mind picking up dual channel support and eventually i'll want to go pci-e. for me (and quite a few people out there judging from the numbers running the vnf3-250 board) this is the perfect board. performance wise we'll have to see til reviewers get ahold of production boards to test against each other, but i have a feeling chaintech will do just fine.
 

Dug

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Originally posted by: littlepitel
Originally posted by: Pnoy02
Performance > Features, who really needs 8 SATA ports?

I do, for video editing.
2 Raptors in RAID-1
2 Diamondmax 10 300 GB in RAID-0

If I ever want to get another HDD, or maybe get a SATA Optical drive, I'm out of luck.

Does the Chaintech even support NCQ?

You add a real SATA card like every other motherboard out there. I suppose because its built into the chipset, yes the Chaintech does support NCQ, which will be useless to you if you are video editing.

Not only do your raptors not support NCQ, but it hurts performance for single users.
Please read
 

anonhart

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Originally posted by: Dug


The Gigabyte only overclocked to 217Mhz fsb at PC Stats. Lower than any other motherboard they've reviewed.
Compared to Gigabyte's own Nforce3 Ultra that hit 270Mhz it doesn't look good.


Dug, do you have a link to this article so I can look at it?

Thanks

 

Dug

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Originally posted by: anonhart
Originally posted by: Dug


The Gigabyte only overclocked to 217Mhz fsb at PC Stats. Lower than any other motherboard they've reviewed.
Compared to Gigabyte's own Nforce3 Ultra that hit 270Mhz it doesn't look good.


Dug, do you have a link to this article so I can look at it?

Thanks

Gigabyte Ultra review
 

NightCrawler

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Originally posted by: Dug
Originally posted by: anonhart
Originally posted by: Dug


The Gigabyte only overclocked to 217Mhz fsb at PC Stats. Lower than any other motherboard they've reviewed.
Compared to Gigabyte's own Nforce3 Ultra that hit 270Mhz it doesn't look good.


Dug, do you have a link to this article so I can look at it?

Thanks

Gigabyte Ultra review

No overclocking with that board.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: rpmcrash
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: Zebo
Chaintechs going to own you all and neweggs going to raise price to $165+ like they do on hot items. Better get in now if you want a NF4 mobo.


or wait and watch the price fall in the weeks ahead when more NF4 boards hit the market.

or wait and watch the price go up like the 6600 gt agp or any A64 CPU compared to a month ago.

zactly ...thanks crash

RE Chaintech is crap/no features

Chaintech is the new Shuttle as far as I'm concerned. Cheap high utility clockers. Sure you don't get every feature sure it does'nt come with high quality japanese capcitors (niether does gigabyte BTW but ASUS does) but for most user this board has everything they need at less than half. Stop trying to pigion hole people into expensive boards. There are much more important places to spend your money if budgeting than a highend mobo.

Like a better monitor, faster video card which really are tangible and noticable.
 

NightCrawler

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Specifications:
Supported CPU: Socket 939 AMD Athlon 64FX/64 processor
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra
RAM: 4x DIMM Dual Channel DDR 266/333/400 Max 4GB
Slots: 1x PCI-Express X16, 2x PCI-Express X1, 3x PCI
Ports: 2x PS/2, 2x COM, 1x LPT, 10x USB2.0(Rear 4), 1x RJ45, Audio Ports
IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices with NV Raid 0/1/0+1
SATA: 4x SATA2 3.0Gb/s with NV Raid 0/1/0+1
Onboard Audio: NVIDIA 7.1-channel audio
Onboard LAN: 10/100/1000Base-T Gigabit Ethernet
Form Factor: ATX

10 USB so that's max allowed
no Firewire but not everyone needs it
only one 1 gigaLAN no big deal really. ( either 1 or 2 )
SATA 2 = 4 instead of 8 not sure do I really need 8 for a Desktop MB and hard drives are getting bigger and faster.

doesn't seem that waterdown.....
 

DEredita

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Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Specifications:
Supported CPU: Socket 939 AMD Athlon 64FX/64 processor
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra
RAM: 4x DIMM Dual Channel DDR 266/333/400 Max 4GB
Slots: 1x PCI-Express X16, 2x PCI-Express X1, 3x PCI
Ports: 2x PS/2, 2x COM, 1x LPT, 10x USB2.0(Rear 4), 1x RJ45, Audio Ports
IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices with NV Raid 0/1/0+1
SATA: 4x SATA2 3.0Gb/s with NV Raid 0/1/0+1
Onboard Audio: NVIDIA 7.1-channel audio
Onboard LAN: 10/100/1000Base-T Gigabit Ethernet
Form Factor: ATX

10 USB so that's max allowed
no Firewire but not everyone needs it
only one 1 gigaLAN no big deal really. ( either 1 or 2 )
SATA 2 = 4 instead of 8 not sure do I really need 8 for a Desktop MB and hard drives are getting bigger and faster.

doesn't seem that waterdown.....

No it doesn't seem watered down. I been all but sold on the MSI K8N NEO2 Platnium until I saw the chaintech. I question the quality of the chaintech board as opposed to the MSI. As far as features go, the motherboard has all I need and I do not feel it is watered down.

I am thinking of this for a system:

AMD Athlon64 3500+ (0.13 micron )
ChainTech nForce4 Ultra motherboard
1GB Dual Channel CORSAIR XMS, PC3200, Xtra-Low Latency 2-2-2-5
74 GB WD Raptor drive 10,000 RPM SATA - 8 mb cache
300 GB Maxtor Diamond10 SATA 7200rpm - 16mb cache
ChainTech 256MB Geforce 6600
A-Top XBlade case with 450 watt power supply
56K Fax Modem
-----------------------------------------------------------
Total: $1306 (includes shipping and handling)


I'm stuck with dialup for the time being because my only choices are $60 a month for cable, $99 a month for sat. or $20 a month for dialup. Supposedly fiber optic broadboard should be out by summer in my area as per Verizon for $40/mo.


But, the chaintech for $119, I think it's a deal.


I'm worried about how it'll affect the speed, preformance, and realibilty. I can give a rat's ass about the features.

- Mike


 

Hajime

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Well, my experience with Chaintech is that it is highly stable, but tends to be feature-lacking.

Overclocking tends to be fairly decent as well.

YMMV, though.
 

rpmcrash

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Originally posted by: DEredita
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Specifications:
Supported CPU: Socket 939 AMD Athlon 64FX/64 processor
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra
RAM: 4x DIMM Dual Channel DDR 266/333/400 Max 4GB
Slots: 1x PCI-Express X16, 2x PCI-Express X1, 3x PCI
Ports: 2x PS/2, 2x COM, 1x LPT, 10x USB2.0(Rear 4), 1x RJ45, Audio Ports
IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices with NV Raid 0/1/0+1
SATA: 4x SATA2 3.0Gb/s with NV Raid 0/1/0+1
Onboard Audio: NVIDIA 7.1-channel audio
Onboard LAN: 10/100/1000Base-T Gigabit Ethernet
Form Factor: ATX

10 USB so that's max allowed
no Firewire but not everyone needs it
only one 1 gigaLAN no big deal really. ( either 1 or 2 )
SATA 2 = 4 instead of 8 not sure do I really need 8 for a Desktop MB and hard drives are getting bigger and faster.

doesn't seem that waterdown.....

No it doesn't seem watered down. I been all but sold on the MSI K8N NEO2 Platnium until I saw the chaintech. I question the quality of the chaintech board as opposed to the MSI. As far as features go, the motherboard has all I need and I do not feel it is watered down.

I am thinking of this for a system:

AMD Athlon64 3500+ (0.13 micron )
ChainTech nForce4 Ultra motherboard
1GB Dual Channel CORSAIR XMS, PC3200, Xtra-Low Latency 2-2-2-5
74 GB WD Raptor drive 10,000 RPM SATA - 8 mb cache
300 GB Maxtor Diamond10 SATA 7200rpm - 16mb cache
ChainTech 256MB Geforce 6600
A-Top XBlade case with 450 watt power supply
56K Fax Modem
-----------------------------------------------------------
Total: $1306 (includes shipping and handling)


I'm stuck with dialup for the time being because my only choices are $60 a month for cable, $99 a month for sat. or $20 a month for dialup. Supposedly fiber optic broadboard should be out by summer in my area as per Verizon for $40/mo.


But, the chaintech for $119, I think it's a deal.


I'm worried about how it'll affect the speed, preformance, and realibilty. I can give a rat's ass about the features.

- Mike
You can get a 3000+939 Mwave .com for 156.00 you can oc it to Fx. maybe you should consider
useing muskin 2x512 DDR3200 for 136.00 it seem to OC well with chaintec boards .its on the Egg
 

Rami7007

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I have all my parts to build my pc and all i needed left was the Nforce4 ultra... I was thinking of getting the ASUS sli so i could have pci-e and if i really wanted to in the fututre i could have SLI... that was a stupid idea... the performance gain isnt even THAT great with SLI (well compared to the money spent for the extra GPU)... I realized that after i saw the Chaintech Nforce4 ultra on new egg... It was just what i was waiting for and it was a really cheap price.... so i ordered the chaintech and now im waiting on it... It will probobly be good for what i need; PCI-Express for AMD (to make it futureproof)...
 

rpmcrash

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Originally posted by: Rami7007
I have all my parts to build my pc and all i needed left was the Nforce4 ultra... I was thinking of getting the ASUS sli so i could have pci-e and if i really wanted to in the fututre i could have SLI... that was a stupid idea... the performance gain isnt even THAT great with SLI (well compared to the money spent for the extra GPU)... I realized that after i saw the Chaintech Nforce4 ultra on new egg... It was just what i was waiting for and it was a really cheap price.... so i ordered the chaintech and now im waiting on it... It will probobly be good for what i need; PCI-Express for AMD (to make it futureproof)...

I think you made a good choice if its any thing like the vnf-3 it will be a board worth having.
I bought one to.
 
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