AT has a review of the Asus A8R32-mvp

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Shimmishim

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well...

Simple analysis of the A8R vs. A8R32


Margin of victory over the A8R (using AT's results) using the 7800GTX card

Quake 4 (1280x1024) = 4.5 fps
Splinter Cell (1280x1024) = -0.2 fps
Doom 3 (1280x1024) = -0.6 fps
Aquamark 3 (1280x1024) = -1,380 points
Farcry (1280x1024) = 3.7 fps
Wolfenstein (1280x1024) = 0.1 fps
USB performance (Mbps) = -0.9
iPeak (I/O Operations/sec) = -0.4



Margin of victory over A8R (using VR's results) using the X1900XT

COD 2 (1600x1200) (4/16) Single = 0 fps
COD 2 (1600x1200) (4/16) Dual = 2 fps
COD 2 (1600x1200) (8/16) Dual = 3 fps
Serious Sam 2 (1600x1200) (4/16) Single = -1 fps
Serious Sam 2 (1600x1200) (4/16) Dual = 4 fps
Serious Sam 2 (1600x1200) (8/16) Dual = 0 fps
Quake 4 (1600x1200) (4/16) Single = 2 fps
Quake 4 (1600x1200) (4/16) Dual = 2 fps
Quake 4 (1600x1200) (8/16) Dual = 2 fps
Fear (1600x1200) (4/16) Single = 1 fps
Fear (1600x1200) (4/16) Dual = 2 fps
Fear (1600x1200) (8/16) Dual = 0 fps




i'm impressed but not impressed...

when you look at the benchmarks of the a8r vs the a8r32... the difference in the bench scores were like... 1-2 fps generally speaking...

ithink it's hard to warrant its high cost at the moment but once in settles into the $130 to $150 range, i think the board will be more worth it later...

but no way at this price point with the a8r costing around $96US and doing only 1-2fps less on average


so my conclusion is that either the A8R-MVP is a GREAT GREAT GREAT semibudget ATi chipset board or the A8R32-MVP needs a lot of work in order for its true performance to be revealed.
 

Zebo

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What a waste of time shim...AMD makes the only part of the chipset that maters, AMD Hammer IMC. Therefore it's no accident ALL hammer boards perform more less identically. SiS, Uli, NF3, via, NF4, 480, 580 etc does'nt matter. Last year and a half I've never seen sets of boards with benchmarks so close. Buy on features and OCing.
 

Shimmishim

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true zebo.

but even o/cing... it's not that much better.. is it?

the VR review shows it to be slightly better but not by much.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Shimmishim
true zebo.

but even o/cing... it's not that much better.. is it?

the VR review shows it to be slightly better but not by much.

Well within margins of errors.. maybe new asus has better bios, better built... not like A-XP NF2 vs via days where 10-15% was separating them.

The fastest Hammer board I ever had was Epox 9NDA AGP beat both my DFI and Abit NF4 in winrar/ s-pi while AT showed NF4 a tad faster than NF3. Go figure... Epox was just fast, well built.... As I said well within margin or error here 1-2% separates all hammer boards.

Maybe if benchmarks were done 10x each for repeatability and consitancy, on each board ever made to elminate manufactures and particular board variances, for each chipset made and it showed 1-2% faster I would start to believe there is a real differnce in chipsets. Until then I just go shopping for features ignoring who makes chipset...
 

Rocky Mountain High

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The A8R32-MVP review states that memory speeds of up to DDR500 are possible with the E6 revision of AMD processors. Are those memory speeds possible with E6 steppings of the Manchester X2 dual-processor chips, such as:

4200+ ADA4200DAA5CD (ADA4200BVBOX) and
3800+ ADV4400DAA6CD (ADA3800BVBOX)?
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: glynor
I take it the review was pulled because we haven't reached the official launch date yet?


Probly. I hate it when they pull crap like that.

You make it sound like they do it all the time. AFAIK AT has only pulled one other article in its history. Xbox360.
I think that's the only one they've permanently removed, but AT has put up articles and temporarily removed them (up to weeks at a time, I'm guessing) many times before.
 

Heidfirst

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Originally posted by: Rocky Mountain High
The A8R32-MVP review states that memory speeds of up to DDR500 are possible with the E6 revision of AMD processors. Are those memory speeds possible with E6 steppings of the Manchester X2 dual-processor chips, such as:
Iirc E3 cores introduced the new dividers (as long as there was BIOS support) - both my E3 Venice & E4 Opteron have them so I would imagine that the E6 Manchesters do.
 

Rocky Mountain High

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Originally posted by: Heidfirst
Originally posted by: Rocky Mountain High
The A8R32-MVP review states that memory speeds of up to DDR500 are possible with the E6 revision of AMD processors. Are those memory speeds possible with E6 steppings of the Manchester X2 dual-processor chips, such as:
Iirc E3 cores introduced the new dividers (as long as there was BIOS support) - both my E3 Venice & E4 Opteron have them so I would imagine that the E6 Manchesters do.

A8R32-MVP reviews in both Anandtech and Hard OCP state that the DDR500 memory speeds are available only with E6 processors. What does the E6 stepping provide to allow memory to be overclocked to DDR500?

I have already purchased Corsair TWINX2048-4000PT 2x1GB memory that is rated for DDR500 so I am very interested in getting the right processor to make this work.
 

OvErHeAtInG

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Originally posted by: PSUPef2k
Soooo...

A8N32-SLi or A8R32-MVP?

Decisions Decisions.

Do you need Crossfire?
Do you need to mount upside down?

If no and no, definitely a8n. Until the a8r drops about $80 anyway.

Originally posted by: glynor
It just went up by $10 on Newegg to $229.99 (and is of course out of stock).

Mine shipped out today though ... Glad I got it when I did before the increase!

249 and counting...
 

DigitalFreak

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I'm holding off until I see the Geforce 7900 reviews. That will make up my mind as to whether I go with RD580/Crossfire or Nforce4/SLI. Already have my Opteron 165.

If RD580/Crossfire, then will wait for the DFI RD580 board. I'm not really liking the fact that using a dual slot card in the first PCI-E 16x slot means you lose the only PCI-E 1x slot on the board. Very bad design decision.
 
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