[AT] Haswell Refresh comes with improved TIM, unlocked Pentium due mid-2014

[mikk]

LOL. VR-Zone? And somehow, you believe these slides to be legit?

As expected it's confirmed by several other sources. It's funny that people still try to discredit vr-zone.cn when they are trustworthy.

 

[OCGuy]

As expected it's confirmed by several other sources. It's funny that people still try to discredit vr-zone.cn when they are trustworthy.

Sometimes they aren't. Skepticism is certainly warranted.

Their fake slides don't look that clean usually.

 

[ViRGE]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7873/new-haswell-k-overclocking-enhancements

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7872/unlocked-haswell-pentium-due-mid2014

I am thinking the improved TIM may not help much as the Ivy Bridge E cpus did not oc all that good either.

Agreed. That said, I still think everyone would be happier with lower temperatures. This is something Intel should have done for all the K processors from the start.

 

[Sweepr]

I wonder if Broadwell-K GT3e will maintain Haswell GT2's OC potential.

 

[inf64]

The slides look legit to me. Also what is stated in them is not beyond the realms of possibility.

 

[coolpurplefan]

Oops, I just noticed it says chipset 8 series but maybe only for the Pentium.

What in the world is "updated packaging material"? Brown paper box with vegetable ink?

 

[bullzz]

@Sweepr - if that part is a reality, it will eat into low end gpu share for sure

 

[jhu]

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Also, Pentiums are usually pretty weak, with clock-speed not being the only shortcoming.

Wonder if these Pentiums will have AVX2?

 

[jpiniero]

Yeah, that would be a nice challenge for people who are bored with CPU overclocking - to try to get Broadwell-K's GT3e OCed high enough that it is competitive with something like the 750 at low res.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/in...tium-anniversary-edition-broadwell,26326.html
Toms backed it. One thing I've really excited about is the unlocked pentium. It could be an incredible budget chip. Devil's canyon could be anything really.

 

[coolpurplefan]

Uh, it's an actual press release from Intel. I just checked their site. There are also slides on hardocp.

 

[Vesku]

Unlocked Pentium is only interesting if it keeps to Pentium pricing. Somewhere in the $60-80 range and I'll join their anniversary celebrations. ~$100+ for a dual core without HT, even unlocked, seems silly given you'll still have to pair it with an OC capable motherboard.

Nice to see Intel reaching out to the enthusiast market for desktop sales as the more capricious businesses and consumers flock to all-in-ones and mobile devices.

 

[jpiniero]

Unlocked Pentium is only interesting if it keeps to Pentium pricing. Somewhere in the $60-80 range and I'll join their anniversary celebrations. ~$100+ for a dual core without HT, even unlocked, seems silly given you'll still have to pair it with an OC capable motherboard.

The most expensive Haswell Pentium (G3430) right now is $93, and is currently $99 at Newegg. So 60-80 isn't going to happen.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

I'm looking at microcenter TBH. If I could put my 870 and half dead 7770 in their own box as my media server/file cruncher and get a pentium@4.5+mobo for $120 to pair with my 770 I'd most likely do it. I only do low threaded gaming anyway.

 

[Tsavo]

Edit: First of all, what major corp would name their premiere product with "Devil" anywhere in their name.

...the same company that puts scary skulls on their enthusiast lines of products.

"Skulltrail"

 

[dac7nco]

Edit: First of all, what major corp would name their premiere product with "Devil" anywhere in their name.

One that's had a giant glowing skull as their enthusiast logo since the QX series?

 

[nwo]

The most expensive Haswell Pentium (G3430) right now is $93, and is currently $99 at Newegg. So 60-80 isn't going to happen.

Currently, the other two Haswell pentiums are $70/80 on newegg so $60-80 is about right once prices settle.... On Amazon the other two pentiums are currently $68/$70

 

[DigDog]

as a gamer (who maybe does a little bit of Vegas on the side), i don't need it.

Before this, with my C2D, all the power i could get was welcome. But after seeing my 4670K OC to a modest 4.0, and yet demolish every task given it, i find myself thinking for the first time that not only i dont need the new platform, but i probably won't need OC in the future either.

1) I have overcome my fear of running out of ram, this isn't 2001 anymore and i'm not on XP pre-LBA48.
2) I dont need to disable every power-saving feature to run my CPU at 100% anymore, because - SHOCK! - i don't need to.
3) I'm actually ok with having useful services run in the background, as my system doesn't lock up anymore from lack of resources as it did in the 90s.

I'm sure the epeen here is formidable, but rather than jump on these new CPUs, i'd wait until my 4670k starts to get sluggish, and to be honest, i don't see that happening anytime soon.

 

[AtenRa]

Ian says the unlocked Pentium is Haswell not Broadwell.

given that this CPU is based on Haswell (it sounds like it will come with the Haswell refresh CPUs, though not confirmed) we can get an insight into how the lower binned CPU parts might perform

It is always nice to have lower end Overclockable CPUs but at $100+, plus the higher cost of a Z board doesnt make it a valuable solution to recommend a dual core this days. Im sure it will be appreciated among the Extreme Overclocking community if it can be OCed above current Haswell chips(mostly for single core).

For gaming get the cheap G3220, in most older games it will be more than enough. Newer games will still need four or even more threads so no matter how high you OC, that dual core will not perform that well especially if you factor in that you pay a heavy premium for both the CPU and the board.

 

[Khato]

Quite true, some newer games really need to have more than two cores available to them. But such doesn't mean that it's necessarily going to be a bad option in that price segment if you intend to overclock.

 

[SPBHM]

some good news, K part with GT3e, Haswell compatible with Broadwell chipsets (but not the opposite), TIM being looked at, and the unlocked dual core haswell, a real shame it's not an i3 (first pentium with quicksync, interesting), because 4.5GHz 2c+HT would definitely be much more of gaming chip compared to the same thing without HT, still will be interesting to see how it performs, and specially pricing...

also, a big shame that Intel blocked the H81 OC, it would be perfect for the K pentium (as long as it's cheap enough), but I'm afraid i3 4330 + H81 is probably going to be cheaper compared to pentium K + z87, so, yes...

 

[Nothingness]

Wonder if these Pentiums will have AVX2?

No existing Pentium has AVX/AVX2, so it's unlikely.

 

[SammichPG]

Unlocked low end part from intel

pretty cool

pentium

into the trash it goes


Make it an i3 and I'm on board, no avx and HT? Seriously...

 

[Headfoot]

Yeah maybe it wont be a good deal for you unfortunate people not near a microcenter. I can get the MSI z87-g41 PC MATE board for $40 with the unlocked i3. If they do that same deal on the unlocked Pentium at say $80 (or $70 given that Microcenter always has cheaper CPUs) you could build a pretty quick system for $120...

 

[Borealis7]

http://www.techpowerup.com/199058/i...p-haswell-e-broadwell-devils-canyon-blip.html

according to TPU, Devil's Canyon will be binned chips for higher OCing potential, improved TIM, improved LGA contact points and high tolerance package - what ever that means...

if so few people OC, why bother with all the binning and details?