[AT] Haswell Refresh comes with improved TIM, unlocked Pentium due mid-2014

[TerryMathews]

Yeap, as i said memory is locked with entry level Chipsets like H81 and B85.

it sure is hard to keep all of Intel's rules straight these days.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Euros have already got their 4790K's. At least the Brits have.

Ugh...hopefully this monday.

 

[Homeles]

Dr. Ian Cutress says he's finished the testing on DC, and is taking care of the writeup part now. He said they got their samples really late.

 

[ehume]

A review from TweakTown. They have a 4770k that runs at 4.9GHz, so they're not very impressed with their sample 4790k, which ran a "mere" 4.7GHz.

 

[Idontcare]

A review from TweakTown. They have a 4770k that runs at 4.9GHz, so they're not very impressed with their sample 4790k, which ran a "mere" 4.7GHz.

Silicon lottery. Sounds like they got an exceptional 4770K and an average 4790K

 

[GAO]

This is interesting. People are starting to report the lots for their 4790k are from 2013.

 

[Homeles]

This is interesting. People are starting to report the lots for their 4790k are from 2013.

Well a wafer takes something like 3 months from start to finish, right? Maybe even more these days? Not too crazy.

 

[GAO]

Well a wafer takes something like 3 months from start to finish, right? Maybe even more these days? Not too crazy.

I think the manufacture date is when they put the whole package together.
Anyway, someone just posted on the Asus ROG forum that his was manufactured September 2013.

What do you think Intel has been up to?

 

[witeken]

They've been harvesting the best dies for Devil's Canyon?

 

[Idontcare]

I think the manufacture date is when they put the whole package together.
Anyway, someone just posted on the Asus ROG forum that his was manufactured September 2013.

What do you think Intel has been up to?

It's not the package assembly date, it is the lot-start date.

That is, the date at which the wafer was officially laser-engraved with its lot number when the lot was started in the fab.

This is industry standard protocol BTW, everyone does it the same way because this is how QRA tracks the silicon in the field and associates it with its processing history in the fab. (for tracking down root-cause problems and so forth)

A lot start date of Sept 2013 would put the wafer ex-fab around end of Nov to early Dec, after which it goes through test, bin, and then shipped to a packaging plant by boat, packaged and then shipped by boat yet again to a warehouse where it sat until it was trucked to a retailer destination.

It takes time to do this at a global level.

 

[craige4u]

I have this confusion between 4790 vs 4790K... maybe u guys can help on the dedicated thread below:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=36472316#post36472316

 

[Phynaz]

It's not the package assembly date, it is the lot-start date.

That is, the date at which the wafer was officially laser-engraved with its lot number when the lot was started in the fab.

This is industry standard protocol BTW, everyone does it the same way because this is how QRA tracks the silicon in the field and associates it with its processing history in the fab. (for tracking down root-cause problems and so forth)

A lot start date of Sept 2013 would put the wafer ex-fab around end of Nov to early Dec, after which it goes through test, bin, and then shipped to a packaging plant by boat, packaged and then shipped by boat yet again to a warehouse where it sat until it was trucked to a retailer destination.

It takes time to do this at a global level.

I going a bit off topic here, but in the chip biz, what is considered a lot?

 

[Idontcare]

I going a bit off topic here, but in the chip biz, what is considered a lot?

Depends on the wafer size (diameter) as the lot cassettes (typically for 200mm and smaller wafers) and foups (typically for 300mm wafers and larger) have a maximum weight limitation drive by practical handling considerations.

That said, generally speaking a 'lot' of 200mm wafers will comprise 24 wafers, and a 'lot' of 300mm wafers will comprise 12 wafers (as 300mm wafers are generally 2x the weight of a 200mm wafer).

 

[GAO]

They've been harvesting the best dies for Devil's Canyon?

And screwing 4770k buyers for how long? Well, maybe I misunderstand the dating, but still seems awful strange to me.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Release has been changed to the 26th (from 25) on newegg. I guess the good news is that they must be on the way. Not long to wait now.

 

[jpiniero]

Actually that's only for the 4690K. Newegg shows the 4790K as in stock and Amazon still has the release date for both as tomorrow.

 

[Termie]

I take it no one has linked this yet:

http://www.techspot.com/review/837-intel-core-i7-4790k-devils-canyon/

Looks like this may have been over-hyped. We'll know for sure when other reviews roll out.

 

[Techhog]

I take it no one has linked this yet:

http://www.techspot.com/review/837-intel-core-i7-4790k-devils-canyon/

Looks like this may have been over-hyped. We'll know for sure when other reviews roll out.

We have more than enough reviews at this point. Now, it's just a question of whether or not retail chips overclock as well. My money is on the average overclock being only 100MHz better than the 4770K.

 

[TheGoat Eater]

I have been testing the 4790K ES with the MSI MPOWER MAX AC - Its been a strong combo and The comfortable OC I attained was 4.7 @ 1.29v and the highest I could go with my cooling was 5.15 Super Pi 32M stable (1 thread)

 

[ElFenix]

microcenter was selling the unlocked pentium with an overclocking board for $10 cheaper than the board sells alone, so now i own one of these little bad boys.

 

[cbn]

microcenter was selling the unlocked pentium with an overclocking board for $10 cheaper than the board sells alone, so now i own one of these little bad boys.

Yeah, that is just an awesome deal.

It came bundled with the MSI Z97 PC Mate right?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130779

 

[netxzero64]

you guys are so lucky to be able to grab the devil

 

[ElFenix]

Yeah, that is just an awesome deal.

It came bundled with the MSI Z97 PC Mate right?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130779

yup that's it.

rebate really pushes the deal over the edge.

 

[Sweepr]

AnandTech Review (finally): www.anandtech.com/show/8227/devils-canyon-review-intel-core-i7-4790k-and-i5-4690k

 

[Sweepr]

AnandTech - Overclockable Pentium Anniversary Edition Review: The Intel Pentium G3258

www.anandtech.com/show/8232/overclo...y-edition-review-the-intel-pentium-g3258-ae/3

Insane single-thread performance.