why are people still surprised is beyond me, expecialy if you look at what Israel has been doing for the past weeks. For over a month now the IDF has been rolling into Palestinian lands almost every day, arresting people, destroying buildings, making hundreds of palestinians homeless, and so on and on. Not sure about the eact number but I think at least 20-30 people have been killed during these raids if not more.
For over a month now the IDF has been rolling into Palestinian lands almost every day, arresting people, destroying buildings, making hundreds of palestinians homeless, and so on and on. Not sure about the eact number but I think at least 20-30 people have been killed during these raids if not more.
Originally posted by: Czar
horrible that this happened
why are people still surprised is beyond me, expecialy if you look at what Israel has been doing for the past weeks. For over a month now the IDF has been rolling into Palestinian lands almost every day, arresting people, destroying buildings, making hundreds of palestinians homeless, and so on and on. Not sure about the eact number but I think at least 20-30 people have been killed during these raids if not more.
Israel is the government in Israel, not in the Palestininian lands, there they are the occupying force.Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
why are people still surprised is beyond me, expecialy if you look at what Israel has been doing for the past weeks. For over a month now the IDF has been rolling into Palestinian lands almost every day, arresting people, destroying buildings, making hundreds of palestinians homeless, and so on and on. Not sure about the eact number but I think at least 20-30 people have been killed during these raids if not more.
When will you get it. Israeli's are the GOVERNMENT in the area, legal or not, legitimate or not, that is a FACT.
The best way to overcome such governments has been NON VIOLENCE.
czar if you really believed ur little quote about Hatred . . . then you would also be preaching non violence, but u only spout this tooth for tooth thing everytime someone posts one of these you always respond as if the palestinians have the right to do these things because of the way they are treated. well they DON'T have the right and their methods are not effective.
czar, i give up, you must be a antisemitic bigot.
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
czar, i give up, you must be a antisemitic bigot.
If so many of them weren't supportive of the groups that are actively trying to kill members of my family, I would care.I only spout tooth for tooth because so few of you even care what the Palestinians are going through you only scream when something terrible happens in Israel but nothing when it happens in the West Bank or the Gaza strip, thats why I try to mention this.
I agree, it is definetly not the way to fightOriginally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Czar
horrible that this happened
why are people still surprised is beyond me, expecialy if you look at what Israel has been doing for the past weeks. For over a month now the IDF has been rolling into Palestinian lands almost every day, arresting people, destroying buildings, making hundreds of palestinians homeless, and so on and on. Not sure about the eact number but I think at least 20-30 people have been killed during these raids if not more.
Suicide bombing of innocent people going about their business on a city bus is NOT an acceptable tactic for Palestinians to accomplish their goals. Those who perform, support, and/or condone the tactic of suicide bombing do not, in my opinion, deserve to be treated as human beings, and thoroughly deserve to be put before a firing squad.
Originally posted by: snooker
One day they will realize that blowing up bus's and disco's etc... will not accomplish anything other then pushing Isreal to take the rest of the Palestinians land and make them get out forever.
Israel is the government in Israel, not in the Palestininian lands, there they are the occupying force.
I only spout tooth for tooth because so few of you even care what the Palestinians are going through you only scream when something terrible happens in Israel but nothing when it happens in the West Bank or the Gaza strip, thats why I try to mention this.
if so then Israel must provide medical treatment, sanitations, schooling and other basic services by international law. They dont provide these services because they dont want to be the "defacto government" of the west bank and the gaza strip because of this international law.Originally posted by: zengeos
Israel is the government in Israel, not in the Palestininian lands, there they are the occupying force.
I only spout tooth for tooth because so few of you even care what the Palestinians are going through you only scream when something terrible happens in Israel but nothing when it happens in the West Bank or the Gaza strip, thats why I try to mention this.
Israel is the defacto government in Israel. Israel is the defacto government of the West Bank and Gaza until such time as a legitimate representative of those territories is ready to negotiate for a peaceful solution. So far there has been none. Until that time, Israel is the defacto government of those territories. When the Palestinian people have a group of representatives ready and willing to make the hard decisions and negotiate for a real, lasting peace, there will be no Palestinian country.
Is Israeli rule there *harsh* right now? Darn right! And it's too bad because prior to the mid 80's and the outside influence of hamasand Hizbullah, the Palestinians on the west Bank and even Gaza hads some of the highest living standards in the middle East outside Israel proper. Look where their *struggle* has gotten them because they chose violence over non-violence; they chose hatred over peaceful negotiation. I feel so sad for the innocent Paestinins being led down the garden path by hate mongers.
Mark-
sure why not go to http://www.reuters.com/ like I do every once in a while and read the same stories there, uuuh must be a conspiracy theory against IsraelOriginally posted by: ThePresence
Israel - Has expressd their intention to form a Palestinian country
Palestinians - Have expressed their intentions to destroy the State of Israel
Israel - Have expressed their intentions to try not to harm civillians (Israeli soldiers risk their lives not to harm civillians)
Palestinians - Have expressed their intentions to try and kill civillians
Yeah Czar, go read your European newspapers and websites, and accept them as the truth. These papers do nothing but try to rag on Israel at every opportunity. Yes, even the holy voice of the gospel truth, the BBC. You know what you know from papers and websites, and pretend to understand. How sad.
Originally posted by: Czar
sure why not go to http://www.reuters.com/ like I do every once in a while and read the same stories there, uuuh must be a conspiracy theory against IsraelOriginally posted by: ThePresence
Israel - Has expressd their intention to form a Palestinian country
Palestinians - Have expressed their intentions to destroy the State of Israel
Israel - Have expressed their intentions to try not to harm civillians (Israeli soldiers risk their lives not to harm civillians)
Palestinians - Have expressed their intentions to try and kill civillians
Yeah Czar, go read your European newspapers and websites, and accept them as the truth. These papers do nothing but try to rag on Israel at every opportunity. Yes, even the holy voice of the gospel truth, the BBC. You know what you know from papers and websites, and pretend to understand. How sad.
Because TERRORISTS ARE CIVILLIANS.Intentions not to harm civilians?? then tell me, why are most of those who have been killed by the IDF since the infada began been civilians?
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Czar
sure why not go to http://www.reuters.com/ like I do every once in a while and read the same stories there, uuuh must be a conspiracy theory against IsraelOriginally posted by: ThePresence
Israel - Has expressd their intention to form a Palestinian country
Palestinians - Have expressed their intentions to destroy the State of Israel
Israel - Have expressed their intentions to try not to harm civillians (Israeli soldiers risk their lives not to harm civillians)
Palestinians - Have expressed their intentions to try and kill civillians
Yeah Czar, go read your European newspapers and websites, and accept them as the truth. These papers do nothing but try to rag on Israel at every opportunity. Yes, even the holy voice of the gospel truth, the BBC. You know what you know from papers and websites, and pretend to understand. How sad.
Ahhh, spare me the links.
Because TERRORISTS ARE CIVILLIANS.Intentions not to harm civilians?? then tell me, why are most of those who have been killed by the IDF since the infada began been civilians?
Originally posted by: justint
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Czar
sure why not go to http://www.reuters.com/ like I do every once in a while and read the same stories there, uuuh must be a conspiracy theory against IsraelOriginally posted by: ThePresence
Israel - Has expressd their intention to form a Palestinian country
Palestinians - Have expressed their intentions to destroy the State of Israel
Israel - Have expressed their intentions to try not to harm civillians (Israeli soldiers risk their lives not to harm civillians)
Palestinians - Have expressed their intentions to try and kill civillians
Yeah Czar, go read your European newspapers and websites, and accept them as the truth. These papers do nothing but try to rag on Israel at every opportunity. Yes, even the holy voice of the gospel truth, the BBC. You know what you know from papers and websites, and pretend to understand. How sad.
Ahhh, spare me the links.
Because TERRORISTS ARE CIVILLIANS.Intentions not to harm civilians?? then tell me, why are most of those who have been killed by the IDF since the infada began been civilians?
Terrorists are not civillians. Terrorists are combatants. Just because they don't wear uniforms does not make them civilians. Once you join an armed struglle you are a combatant.
Originally posted by: Czar
Israel is the government in Israel, not in the Palestininian lands, there they are the occupying force.
I only spout tooth for tooth because so few of you even care what the Palestinians are going through you only scream when something terrible happens in Israel but nothing when it happens in the West Bank or the Gaza strip, thats why I try to mention this.
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Israel - Have expressed their intentions to try not to harm civillians (Israeli soldiers risk their lives not to harm civillians)
Thats why when they killed that FATAH's leader they bombed his house killing his family??? Hum, interesting intentions.