Its all about the colour shift(viewing angles),as the colours tn vs ips is way overblown believe me.
Can someone explain to me why TN panels get hated on so much? The average TN is going to have much better response time than the average IPS which means it's better for gaming. Colors may not be re-produced accurately, but if you're not doing photo editing I don't see why that matters as long as the image looks good. The only other issue I'm aware of it viewing angles which shouldn't matter at all when your sitting 2-3 feet from the display.
Here's what I don't get.....a lot of AMD fans have a tendency to automatically to don the tin foil hat and cry conspiracy, sabotage or bias as soon as they perceive something as not being positive for their company. I seriously don't get it.
Seems fairly clear that this is the way to go for the future. From Forbes:
"Two hours later, after running my own G-Sync demo (on my own terms, with my own selection of games), I adamantly swore off gaming on anything but a G-Sync monitor, regardless of its size or resolution. The differences are that extreme. In fact, Ill go on record and predict that this single technology will decisively win Nvidia the desktop GPU race within 5 years unless somehow it gets licensed out to AMD. Once you see it for yourself, youll never go back."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonev...-nvidias-g-sync-technology-is-truly-next-gen/
Seems fairly clear that this is the way to go for the future. From Forbes:
"Two hours later, after running my own G-Sync demo (on my own terms, with my own selection of games), I adamantly swore off gaming on anything but a G-Sync monitor, regardless of its size or resolution. The differences are that extreme. In fact, Ill go on record and predict that this single technology will decisively win Nvidia the desktop GPU race within 5 years unless somehow it gets licensed out to AMD. Once you see it for yourself, youll never go back."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonev...-nvidias-g-sync-technology-is-truly-next-gen/
Also wasnt this g-sync supposed to be either able to reduce/eliminate the tearing OR able to do something similar to lightboost?
Personally tearing does not bother me nearly as much as ghosting.
Pricing in the short term will be hurdle, but there are enough die hard fans out there who don't mind TN panels and 1080p...so adoption should be good enough that in the future more and more panels get rolled out and the luxury tax of having a G-Sync module will diminish. Nonetheless, that is a very favorable review. Anand basically had the same impressions, but did not go so far as to say AMD was doomed since it may be possible for another vendor to come in and make it universal. With patents how they are today, I don't know what type of patents if any Nvidia has, but I'd be surprised if they weren't awarded some type of patent for G-Sync.
Can someone explain to me why TN panels get hated on so much? The average TN is going to have much better response time than the average IPS which means it's better for gaming. Colors may not be re-produced accurately, but if you're not doing photo editing I don't see why that matters as long as the image looks good. The only other issue I'm aware of it viewing angles which shouldn't matter at all when your sitting 2-3 feet from the display.
Sit a TN and a good IPS side by side and it's obvious. TN looks like total garbage; washed out and grainy. They scream low budget. Buying anything TN is like picking up one of those trash can HDTVs with a brand name you've never heard of for a couple hundred bucks compared to a good IPS which is like sitting down in front of a Kuro Elite. The IQ of a good IPS is a whole other league beyond TN.
Why should I be forced into a cheap TN unit if I want G-Sync? Yes better displays will show up, but either way it's obviously relevant to this discussion. Are we not discussing displays here?
Why should I be forced into a cheap TN unit if I want G-Sync?
If the tech shows up in a 4k monitor in the next 6-8 months then yes I will strongly consider it. But no way I spend the money on a TN monitor@1080, such a thing is basically obsolete in my view.Were you ever planning on buying a G-Sync monitor anyway?
You know exactly what I mean (not to mention read exactly what I posted), don't argue just for the sake of arguing. If I want G-Sync now, that is my choice.You aren't being forced into anything...
Were you ever planning on buying a G-Sync monitor anyway?
IPS G-Sync monitors are coming out soon enough. TN monitors offer the most cost effective solution in the short term. During the adoption phase, that makes the most sense for the display manufacturers due to the R&D costs of implementing them into IPS displays.
Nontheless, manufacturers offering them on TN displays has nothing to do with what the technology does itself, especially since it is clearly stated 1440p IPS G-Sync displays are on the horizon.
some people are really just too hard to please...
Is it they are too hard to please or others are too easy?
I don't see why wanting a quality display is "hard to please". A monitor is a good investment, something you typically keep over many GPU purchases. Also if people think G-Sync and the monitor it comes with now is good, then fine buy one! I'd love to have some user feedback not just reviews.
Not necessary and contributes nothing to this thread.I just think you've invented or "found" something to complain about regarding G-Sync and you're trying to capitalize on that.
When one side is crying because their viewing angles aren't 178 degrees (an angle at which you would never be realistically viewing your monitor from), I'd say they are too hard to please. The color reproduction is also silly for 99.9% of monitor users. "It doesn't support 100% of Adobe RGB scale! Despite doing nothing that requires that, this monitor is garbage and I can't use it for my AT V&G browsing!"
Not necessary and contributes nothing to this thread.
I've said very clearly I am interested in what G-Sync is all about I think it's the natural progression in display tech, but I want it in a display that I can keep for at least a few years, and a 1080 TN panel is not that.