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blankslate

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2008
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my EDC knife is the Fastback spring assisted opening serrated edge with a tanto style blade tip. It's only about $22 at home depot but keeps an edge well enough and is not to hard to sharpen. And the prices is low enough that losing it won't be too upsetting.
Since Home Depot is fairly easy to find where I am at easy enough to replace if needed.

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Hand-Tools/Cutting/Knives-and-Blades/48-22-1995


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gill77

Senior member
Aug 3, 2006
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Is yours an ATS-34 or D2 steel blade? I'm surprised there's a used market for them at all, no way I'd have sold mine.

Just noticed your avatar is Jonathan Goldsmith. Love that guy, he's into helping dogs and Anatolians in particular. Them's my babies.




Wtf you joined on my birthday.



*backs slowly out of thread*

Mine will not be sold either. It is ATS-34 (black).

Long story short, the avatar is just an inside joke.
 

theblackbox

Golden Member
Oct 1, 2004
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Huge spyderco fan. My main carries are a manix 2 xl with carbon scales and an Italian made lil lion spy. Sometimes i mix in my g10 endura.
 

Zanovar

Diamond Member
Jan 21, 2011
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Good for you. Most of us own knives as tools or just collect them because they are cool.

Personally, I would never want to fight anyone, let alone with a knife. But I'd shoot your ass if I couldn't convince you to leave me alone or otherwise get away from you. So, don't pick fights at all and you'll live a longer, happier life. It's much more fun to be nice.

Sorry about the 2 posts below you.I was being a knobhead
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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I think I'm gonna get some (wet) stones for sharpening my knives. I've had a Spyderoco Sharpmaker for quite a while but I guess I just can't seem to get a real sharp blade with it (it's not like I use it frequently either, maybe once a year or something). It seems like I kinda could before, but the last time I used it, it left some knives no different or maybe even a bit duller (I was doing kitchen knives). And I've always been careful to take my time with it, and even have used the sharpie-on-the-blade-edge trick.

So I think I'll try stones, mostly inspired by Wrangerstar's (on YouTube) use of them. Anyone else have stones and didn't think they were super hard to learn?
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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I think I'm gonna get some (wet) stones for sharpening my knives. I've had a Spyderoco Sharpmaker for quite a while but I guess I just can't seem to get a real sharp blade with it (it's not like I use it frequently either, maybe once a year or something). It seems like I kinda could before, but the last time I used it, it left some knives no different or maybe even a bit duller (I was doing kitchen knives). And I've always been careful to take my time with it, and even have used the sharpie-on-the-blade-edge trick.

So I think I'll try stones, mostly inspired by Wrangerstar's (on YouTube) use of them. Anyone else have stones and didn't think they were super hard to learn?
All I use is stone. Start with a medium Arkansas, finish with a hard. If you keep up with it, you can just touch it up with the hard stone every so often. If your blade's trashed, you can regrind it with a synthetic stone, then do the medium-hard routine.
 
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theblackbox

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Oct 1, 2004
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I used to exclusively use stones and then I found a sharp maker for 75% off at a local gun store. Tried it out and never went back. I’ve found it depends on the steel and the type of blade, but it can do a great job sharpening.

As far as how I find knifes, I only buy at pawn shops, so it has to be a great deal and in great shape, and I guess I’ve been lucky. I’m not much for retail even though the spyderco factory and outlet is only an hour plus away.
 

Paladin3

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Mar 5, 2004
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Sorry about the 2 posts below you.I was being a knobhead
It's too easy to get offended over the Internet when most don't mean to do so. I apologize, too, if anything I said came off as rude. Life is good.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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I think I'm gonna get some (wet) stones for sharpening my knives. I've had a Spyderoco Sharpmaker for quite a while but I guess I just can't seem to get a real sharp blade with it (it's not like I use it frequently either, maybe once a year or something). It seems like I kinda could before, but the last time I used it, it left some knives no different or maybe even a bit duller (I was doing kitchen knives). And I've always been careful to take my time with it, and even have used the sharpie-on-the-blade-edge trick.

So I think I'll try stones, mostly inspired by Wrangerstar's (on YouTube) use of them. Anyone else have stones and didn't think they were super hard to learn?

I tell people to stick with stone or ceramic surfaces for sharpening. Diamond coatings, with some exceptions, are generally shit, often leaving bits of diamond in your steel. People like diamond becasue it doesn't need to be trued up or cleaned. Just accept that part of the price of getting good edges is taking care of your tools. Also, get in the habit of using a permanent marker to color in the blade's bevel. Do that no matter how you sharpen. The more I sharpened things, the more I come to believe that you need to always involve water in the job. It helps the medium do it's job better, keeps things cool, and prevents metal and grit dust you don't want to inhale (my main gripe about the WorkSharp grinder).

I use everything. From basic whetstones, Idahones, Lansky's, Worksharps, all the way up to a Tormek T-8 (still my favorite). Big fan of kits that allow you to set angles and keep them. Lansky and Spyderco make good ones, but I think if I had to steer someone towards a single method it would probably be one of the varieties of the Edge Pro Apex.

If you want to stick to stones, any basic non-cheapie will probably will serve you fine. For your rough, sub 1000 grit surface, buy the cheapest thing there is. Doesn't have to be big, you probably won't use it much. Then add to that a 1000/3000 or 1000/4000 dual stone for the rest. 1000 grit can also be your do everything grit, maybe strop it with some leather after. That bamboo and ceramic stone system from Henckel and Zwilling, I think designed by Bob Kramer? That thing is sick, it's made to ride your sink so you can have constant flowing water involved. The "stones" are large slabs of Kyocera ceramic, so hard I don't think they need to be flattened. There is a cleaning stone though, to remove accumulated metal. Like the Edge Pro it's not cheap, but you get what you pay for no?

I've never cared for the guides made for sharpening stones. My hand/wrist/elbow draw action eventually acquired a natural 15 degree angle after repetition. I use no other angle when using stones (just touching up kitchen stuff, everything else goes on the Tormek pretty much)

Found vid on the Bob Kramer system I mentioned. Good reference for technique too, notice his sequencing of draws as the job goes on and the grit changes. That creates consistency, which makes for a sharp edge.

 
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clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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I tell people to stick with stone or ceramic surfaces for sharpening. Diamond coatings, with some exceptions, are generally shit, often leaving bits of diamond in your steel. People like diamond becasue it doesn't need to be trued up or cleaned. Just accept that part of the price of getting good edges is taking care of your tools. Also, get in the habit of using a permanent marker to color in the blade's bevel. Do that no matter how you sharpen. The more I sharpened things, the more I come to believe that you need to always involve water in the job. It helps the medium do it's job better, keeps things cool, and prevents metal and grit dust you don't want to inhale (my main gripe about the WorkSharp grinder).

I use everything. From basic whetstones, Idahones, Lansky's, Worksharps, all the way up to a Tormek T-8 (still my favorite). Big fan of kits that allow you to set angles and keep them. Lansky and Spyderco make good ones, but I think if I had to steer someone towards a single method it would probably be one of the varieties of the Edge Pro Apex.

If you want to stick to stones, any basic non-cheapie will probably will serve you fine. For your rough, sub 1000 grit surface, buy the cheapest thing there is. Doesn't have to be big, you probably won't use it much. Then add to that a 1000/3000 or 1000/4000 dual stone for the rest. 1000 grit can also be your do everything grit, maybe strop it with some leather after. That bamboo and ceramic stone system from Henckel and Zwilling, I think designed by Bob Kramer? That thing is sick, it's made to ride your sink so you can have constant flowing water involved. The "stones" are large slabs of Kyocera ceramic, so hard I don't think they need to be flattened. There is a cleaning stone though, to remove accumulated metal. Like the Edge Pro it's not cheap, but you get what you pay for no?

I've never cared for the guides made for sharpening stones. My hand/wrist/elbow draw action eventually acquired a natural 15 degree angle after repetition. I use no other angle when using stones (just touching up kitchen stuff, everything else goes on the Tormek pretty much)

Found vid on the Bob Kramer system I mentioned. Good reference for technique too, notice his sequencing of draws as the job goes on and the grit changes. That creates consistency, which makes for a sharp edge.

I have seen the Edge Pro Apex; nutnfancy on YouTube really seems to like it, and it looks pretty slick. I'd consider that but it's quite expensive, as far as I know, for something I don't think I'd use that often. Plus your blade has to have a flat part but I think a lot do. But with the number of knives I'm slowly accumulating, maybe it would be a worthwhile investment.
 

pete6032

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Bought a Kershaw leek blem model for about $15 less than retail. It came and it looks perfect, I can't find any blemishes on it at all.
 
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gill77

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I don't know, looks like a special purpose knife to me. Probably for Amazon boxes.
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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I picked up the Work Sharp Ken Onion sharpener after seeing Wranglerstar rave about it and tried it on what I think was my dullest knife (and the first one I ever got), my SOG Flash I. I used three different grits, starting at 65 and going finer. I think. Anyway it turned out pretty decent. Not as sharp as my ZT or Microtechs came out of box, but it's wayyyy better than it was. Hopefully I'll get better at it. So far it seems like a nice system.

Work Sharp Ken Onion Sharpener
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I picked up the Work Sharp Ken Onion sharpener after seeing Wranglerstar rave about it and tried it on what I think was my dullest knife (and the first one I ever got), my SOG Flash I. I used three different grits, starting at 65 and going finer. I think. Anyway it turned out pretty decent. Not as sharp as my ZT or Microtechs came out of box, but it's wayyyy better than it was. Hopefully I'll get better at it. So far it seems like a nice system.

Work Sharp Ken Onion Sharpener
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I bought a 1"x 30" Harbor Freight belt grinder for forty bucks or so. It's frigging awesome and have an assortment of belts up to about 2k grit.
 
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WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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Is anything other than a bottle opener legal in your land?
Not without a bottle opener anyway!

Mine...

The Victorinox is great, knife, corkscrew, bottle opener. I'd have prefered it if the blade was straight but its kept its edge well. Its an awesome knife for eating and drinking out and about.
The leatherman is good as well but need a corkscrew, I take it cycling and camping.
The big old Muela is mainly a camping knife for me, its sturdy enough to baton wood and sharp enough to trim steaks.
 
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