AT&T Putting on Caps on DSL and Uverse

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sourceninja

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Personally, I want a service where I just pay $10 per $50 gigs. Some months my usage is basically nil and some months I go on gaming/netflix/hulu binges and eat up 150 gigs.

I'd save a lot of money if I was only charged for what I use.
 

13Gigatons

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I own a boat but am not using it 24x7 because gas costs money and people dont do one thing all day every day.

Its the same with the above. Just because you have a fast dsl/uverse line with a limit, doesn't mean you need to be using it all day, every day, full bore because with usage comes costs and you need to work that out on your end. You want to use it all the time and go over the very generous 250 gb cap, then you pay more. Very simple.

Your brainwashed. It's brainwashed morons like you that are destroying America. Bandwidth is cheap and getting cheaper all the time. The prices are falling like a rock. AT&T could afford a high cap or no cap at all. This is intended to stop Hulu and netflix.

PS: AT&T made $20 billion in profit....isn't that enough?

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=T&annual
 
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djmartins

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AT&T's greed puts America even more backwards from some Asian and European countries. Some countries get unlimited UP/DOWN speeds in double digits!

Have to agree with you on this, it is disgusting how poor and how costly American phone and internet services are!
Amazing how much money those phone company execs need to live, eh?
 

gorcorps

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Jul 18, 2004
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So is the cap download and upload combined?

Also, I would not mind this as much if you could roll it over. You pay for 250 GB of bandwidth, you should get it. If you use 20GB, then next month you have 480 to use.

That way if you are a power user(I download lots of demos for games on PS3/XBOX/and PC) you can find a way to make it work. I have no clue what I use, and I doubt I get that high, but with a rollover attached to this I could take it easy one month, then get everything I wanted when I knew I woudln't go over. Rather than having to figure out how much you are using all the time.

AT&T should do this to at least have a competitive edge over comcast. I mean AT&T wireless has rollover minutes so it'd make sense from a marketing standpoint. Of course their rollover minutes are a blatant lie... they claim they don't expire but that's utter bullshit.
 

Spikesoldier

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looks like att is trying to recoup money from the cheap dsl it had to offer as part of a ftc order for screwing over customers in the first place.

not happy with att's cell phone network and plans either.
 

JHoNNy1OoO

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Only reason why I was on AT&T 6MB DSL was no cap. Best part is I live in Miami and my only other alternative is Comcast(Capped 250GB). Yiipeee free market! The best part of all this is that AT&T has managed to trick all these "low bandwidth" users that the "high bandwidth" users have been crippling their poor network. Yet notice this move, no cost savings for the low bandwidth users, no metered usage to have grandma pay $5 for her internet usage instead of $50, it's all about more money, money, money. Internet usage will continue to increase and those saying 250GB is a lot today won't be saying that tomorrow. AT&T will be ready to rape your wallet when the time comes.

This country will reap what it sows like it already has in so many places. Ignorance is bliss.
 

Phokus

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This is exactly why we need to start moving towards municipal fiber like some small towns are. If some podunk town (wilson, NC) can provide unlimited 100/100 up/down fiber to it's residents, it should be cheaper in more populated areas.
 

her209

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Look at AT&T's 03/01/2011 10-K filing here.



On page 76 of the document, it breaks down the revenue and expenses for their Wireline segment. As you can see, the revenue for their Data went up 7.5% from 2009 AND their Operations and Support expenses went down 3.2%..........

In other words, THIS IS JUST A MONEY GRAB.
 

her209

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Also, from page 69 of the 10-K filing:

Excluding the impacts of these actuarial losses, operating income in 2010 reflected growth in wireless service revenue, driven mostly by our subscriber growth and growth in wireless data revenue, along with an increase in wireline data revenue resulting from growth in Internet Protocol (IP) data revenue, partially offset by the continuing decline in voice and print directory advertising revenue.
 

ch33zw1z

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Then you need to pay for that obscene usage. That simple.

Obscene? lol...we don't have cable and stream everything via multiple devices, it's not tough to do, and we did it to cut our entertainment costs in HALF. This entire situation comes down to good old fashioned greed. ISP's want users to pay more for less.

That being said, make pay-per-GB affordable and I won't care. But that's not what will happen. ISP's like Comcast, which have a 250GB cap for now, would love to make the internet so UNaffordable for high bandwidth applications like streaming video from a competitor that you will have no choice but to: 1) Switch to their cable service 2) Pirate from your local Library and DVD-in-the-mail's

And all the while, the U.S. will keep falling behind in consumer Internet speeds and pricing. It's a beautiful thing
 

her209

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looks like att is trying to recoup money from the cheap dsl it had to offer as part of a ftc order for screwing over customers in the first place.

not happy with att's cell phone network and plans either.
No, it looks like AT&T is trying to recoup money from its declining voice segment as subscribers are going to other landline voice service providers or canceling all together because they have cell phones.
 

Phokus

Lifer
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Look at AT&T's 03/01/2011 10-K filing here.



On page 76 of the document, it breaks down the revenue and expenses for their Wireline segment. As you can see, the revenue for their Data went up 7.5% from 2009 AND their Operations and Support expenses went down 3.2%..........

In other words, THIS IS JUST A MONEY GRAB.

How that idiot spidey translates this info: PROOF THAT AT&T IS GETTING SHAFTED BY HEAVY USERS
 

her209

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Obscene? lol...we don't have cable and stream everything via multiple devices, it's not tough to do, and we did it to cut our entertainment costs in HALF. This entire situation comes down to good old fashioned greed. ISP's want users to pay more for less.

That being said, make pay-per-GB affordable and I won't care. But that's not what will happen. ISP's like Comcast, which have a 250GB cap for now, would love to make the internet so UNaffordable for high bandwidth applications like streaming video from a competitor that you will have no choice but to: 1) Switch to their cable service 2) Pirate from your local Library and DVD-in-the-mail's

And all the while, the U.S. will keep falling behind in consumer Internet speeds and pricing. It's a beautiful thing
The per-GB cost is low. Real low. You just need to look at web hosting companies and their prices on their plans to see how low it is. And before says, its not comparable, they need to connect to the Internet via an ISP (themselves or someone else) so that cost is included into the price of the plan.
 

Phokus

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Just shut up and take it. All you can eat low cost internet is OVER. And there is nothing you can do about it.

That still doesn't change the fact that you're a lying a-hole.

*defends 20 GB and 40 GB caps, is spidey07*
 

jackace

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Just shut up and take it. All you can eat low cost internet is OVER. And there is nothing you can do about it.

Except it was very profitable before as all you can eat, and the costs are always going down. There is no explanation for these changes except greed. They want higher margins. This is why so many of us were against that crappy legislation. We saw what they were trying to do from a mile away, but our politician sold us out.
 

her209

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That still doesn't change the fact that you're a lying a-hole.

*defends 20 GB and 40 GB caps, is spidey07*
Spidey loves to tell everyone else to pay for what they use yet spidey gets his Internet free thanks to customers paying extra to cover for that loss.

 

ch33zw1z

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Nov 4, 2004
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I'm gonna have to go switch providers now.







Oh wait, I have literally ZERO alternatives in my neighborhood.

Are you sure? Because Dial-up is a perfectly viable alternative according to some posters on this forum..
 

slag

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Dec 14, 2000
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Your brainwashed. It's brainwashed morons like you that are destroying America. Bandwidth is cheap and getting cheaper all the time. The prices are falling like a rock. AT&T could afford a high cap or no cap at all. This is intended to stop Hulu and netflix.

PS: AT&T made $20 billion in profit....isn't that enough?

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=T&annual

Not to the shareholders. And why is it up to you to decide what is enough? If you dont like it, dont buy it.

250 GB is more than reasonable. Its brainwashed morons like you who want everything but dont want to pay for it. Your sense of entitlement is sad and I pity you.

EDIT: I have uverse 12 mb service and pay 9.99 for a supernews account monthly. It was just a matter of time before this would happen and 250gb is extremely generous. They don't cut you off at 250gb, but they do charge you a measly 10 bucks more for 50 gb. People who use more, pay more. Its very fair.
 
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QueBert

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Jan 6, 2002
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Obscene? lol...we don't have cable and stream everything via multiple devices, it's not tough to do, and we did it to cut our entertainment costs in HALF. This entire situation comes down to good old fashioned greed. ISP's want users to pay more for less.

That being said, make pay-per-GB affordable and I won't care. But that's not what will happen. ISP's like Comcast, which have a 250GB cap for now, would love to make the internet so UNaffordable for high bandwidth applications like streaming video from a competitor that you will have no choice but to: 1) Switch to their cable service 2) Pirate from your local Library and DVD-in-the-mail's

And all the while, the U.S. will keep falling behind in consumer Internet speeds and pricing. It's a beautiful thing

I don't think you realize how much bandwidth 250 gigabytes actually is. On Netflix HD you'd have to watch 8 hours of HD streaming a day to hit 250 gigs in a month. I don't see Comcast trying to make the internet un affordable at all, how many people actually will do 8 hours a day of streaming?
 

ViRGE

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Oct 9, 1999
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Not to the shareholders. And why is it up to you to decide what is enough? If you dont like it, dont buy it.

250 GB is more than reasonable. Its brainwashed morons like you who want everything but dont want to pay for it. Your sense of entitlement is sad and I pity you.

EDIT: I have uverse 12 mb service and pay 9.99 for a supernews account monthly. It was just a matter of time before this would happen and 250gb is extremely generous. They don't cut you off at 250gb, but they do charge you a measly 10 bucks more for 50 gb. People who use more, pay more. Its very fair.
While I don't disagree in principle, the execution is lacking. They're certainly working hard to get people to pay more; however why is the inverse not true? Even if you use a fraction of the cap you pay the same ~$50 rate. Which is why I have a hard time believing it's really about fairly billing people who use the service.
 

rudder

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In the past month I have used 124GB down and 29GB up, and my usage was heavier than normal. While I don't think caps are a good idea at least it is a reasonable one.

I just hope the cap moves up as more streaming sites move to high def. Youtube, Netflix and the NBA league pass broadband are the majority of my downstream total.

As others have said... now it is a reasonable cap. as backbones get faster and content gets delivered in HD more, 150gb may not be so reasonable. Do you think AT&T would ever consider that? No, when you get to the point where 150GB is unreasonable, they will make you pay for more data.... even as their infrastructure can support more bandwidth.
 
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