At the dealership. Buying my first bike!

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You fucking dropped a motorcycle in the showroom? And they didn't promptly kick your ass out?
 

roguerower

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The fact that he's a moderator and still posts shit like this really leads me to question the leadership on this forum.

Bets on how long until we see a "some small asian motorcyclist couldn't control his bike and drove off a bridge, dying on impact" headline pop up and FBB stops posting? Cause if he dumped a bike in a showroom (a frickin 250R, seriously?), what's gonna happen the first time he grabs some throttle?

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You fucking dropped a motorcycle in the showroom? And they didn't promptly kick your ass out?

Another red flag. Maybe the dealer was so suprised by the stupidity they didn't know what to do so their mind did a mini-reboot and just continued with the sale? Only thing I can think of.
 
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jeanclaude

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> what's gonna happen the first time he grabs some throttle?[/QUOTE]

You have your choice with a dozen plus youtube videos where the driver locks the throttle in a death grip and races straight forward into some object - be it a tree, a wall, a parked car, a crowd of people.

Bottom line - he will panic and either pancake or t-bone something. And damage the bike.
 

roguerower

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> what's gonna happen the first time he grabs some throttle?

You have your choice with a dozen plus youtube videos where the driver locks the throttle in a death grip and races straight forward into some object - be it a tree, a wall, a parked car, a crowd of people.

Bottom line - he will panic and either pancake or t-bone something. And damage the bike.[/QUOTE]

NOOOO....NOT THE BIKE!!!!
 

Demon-Xanth

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Oh, I don't think they would kick someone out of the showroom for a minor thing like that that caused no damage when they're about to drop money.

...get the money before giving the boot.
 

jeanclaude

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NOOOO....NOT THE BIKE!!!![/QUOTE]

Well, lets be honest, not a real bike. He bought a Ninja 250R. No one would cry if he damaged that. Other than the OP.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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Ah, fuck me. It came out to way more expensive than I realized.

I go on CycleTrader and Tracy Motorsports is advertising a brand new 2010 for $2,999.

I drive there and after all is said and done, this is the final OTD price breakdown:

Base: 2,999
Freight: 595
Handling: 565
Documentation, Tires, License: 186
Tax: 334.76

Total: 4680.26!!!

With financing at 6.99% (and with a credit rating of 760 I still didn't get the 3.99%) for 24 months I'm looking at $209 / month

4680.26??? This is already as low as they'll go. That shipping and handling charge kills it. They normally list these models for $3900 without the additional fees.

Now I'm stuck. I want to get a bike soon, and Craigslist has a few 2008 bikes for $3500.

So do I:

1. Pay $209 a month
2. Pay $3500 all in one go and have that huge chunk of change just disappear from my bank account?
 

StageLeft

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In your post yesterday you said you "got it" and now you come in with this? Who are you trying to kid?

BTW you forgot an option, so I've added it:
So do I:

1. Pay $209 a month
2. Pay $3500 all in one go and have that huge chunk of change just disappear from my bank account?
3. Stick with a car so that I see 2011 in a still-ambulatory state
 
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roguerower

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You know, most people would get the hint that after dropping a bike in the showroom and then getting buttfucked for a new learner bike, the world is trying to tell you, "Hey dumbass, this isn't your thing. Try something else." You are obviously way too much of a fuckup to read the signs.

OR, Option 3, take out a personal loan from the bank, buy the bike, pay the bank back.

EDIT: Congrats, you paid a grand more than I did on an inferior bike.
 
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Capt Caveman

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In your post yesterday you said you "got it" and now you come in with this? Who are you trying to kid?

BTW you forgot an option, so I've added it:

He's trolling everyone. He just bought a car and knew that all of those fees would be added to the advertised price.
 

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He's trolling everyone. He just bought a car and knew that all of those fees would be added to the advertised price.
Agreed, no excuse. But that would have been yesterday he should have known that. Today he finds out after yesterday saying he "got it"? That isn't even skillful trolling.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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Bah, I'm probably going to back out of the deal and just get a used one on Craigslist. I thought that with a starting price of $3000 the OTD price shouldn't be over $4000 after ~$300 taxes and ~$600 destination charge. But since they threw in the $550 assembly charge this thing just became $550 more than what I want to pay for it.
 

halik

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Why do i get a feeling this forum will soon be filled with emo stream-of-thought-plz-hug-me drivel?
 

ViviTheMage

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Bah, I'm probably going to back out of the deal and just get a used one on Craigslist. I thought that with a starting price of $3000 the OTD price shouldn't be over $4000 after ~$300 taxes and ~$600 destination charge. But since they threw in the $550 assembly charge this thing just became $550 more than what I want to pay for it.

If you're not trolling, do this.
 

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Bah, I'm probably going to back out of the deal and just get a used one on Craigslist. I thought that with a starting price of $3000 the OTD price shouldn't be over $4000 after ~$300 taxes and ~$600 destination charge. But since they threw in the $550 assembly charge this thing just became $550 more than what I want to pay for it.
Get a pink Vespa with shag carpeting for a seat and be done with it.
 

Fenixgoon

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Bah, I'm probably going to back out of the deal and just get a used one on Craigslist. I thought that with a starting price of $3000 the OTD price shouldn't be over $4000 after ~$300 taxes and ~$600 destination charge. But since they threw in the $550 assembly charge this thing just became $550 more than what I want to pay for it.

OTD literally means OTD - what you pay after everything's done to get it Out The Door.

example, i was offered ~$8000 OTD for my bike, which included my taxes, tags, titling, etc.. All the bs "freight charges" and whatever they're throwing at you should be included in the OTD price. Stick with $4k OTD or less, if that's what you wanted to pay. Just be prepared that they may not want to play ball with that.
 

JulesMaximus

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Most bike dealers do this. And you can negotiate any of those fees down to generally zero. When I bought my bike in 2008 (yes, I bought it new) they listed the price as $5,999 (which was the MSRP of my bike). I told them I'd pay $6,300 OTD because I could literally drive up to OTD Cycle Sports in Orange County and pay exactly that for the same bike out the door. The dealer balked and kept coming back with prices thousands of dollars over the price OTD quoted me but they finally came down to $6,500 so I bought it from them.

Do NOT get any of the bullshit they offer you in the finance department either. This is pure profit for the dealer and is never worth it. I paid quite literally $6,500 for my bike OTD which is basically MSRP plus tax, title, and license. No delivery fees, no assembly fees...none of the bullshit they try to sell you in the finance department (and I didn't finance my bike through them).

Oh, and NEVER finance gear on top of your bike loan or you'll be upside down in it until you pay it off.
 

StageLeft

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Most bike dealers do this. And you can negotiate any of those fees down to generally zero. When I bought my bike in 2008 (yes, I bought it new) they listed the price as $5,999 (which was the MSRP of my bike). I told them I'd pay $6,300 OTD because I could literally drive up to OTD Cycle Sports in Orange County and pay exactly that for the same bike out the door. The dealer balked and kept coming back with prices thousands of dollars over the price OTD quoted me but they finally came down to $6,500 so I bought it from them.

Do NOT get any of the bullshit they offer you in the finance department either. This is pure profit for the dealer and is never worth it. I paid quite literally $6,500 for my bike OTD which is basically MSRP plus tax, title, and license. No delivery fees, no assembly fees...none of the bullshit they try to sell you in the finance department (and I didn't finance my bike through them).

Oh, and NEVER finance gear on top of your bike loan or you'll be upside down in it until you pay it off.
Funny the destination charge on a small bike is the same as on a large car.
 

JulesMaximus

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Funny the destination charge on a small bike is the same as on a large car.

When I bought my bike they had tacked on a delivery fee, an assembly fee, plus tax, title and license, this was listed on the tag on the handlebars in the showroom. Of course, I didn't pay any of those fees but I'm sure there are plenty of people who do.

I talked to a guy I know who works in the parts department at that dealership and he told me of a Marine who came in to buy a Yamaha R1 and ended up getting everything they offer, plus gear and paid over $20k for it when all was said and done...stupid squids.

In this market you could probably work a hell of a deal though without too much hassle.
 
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