Indeed, you learn how to learn. Grades are rather insignificant in teh grand scheme of things as an ability to show how far ahead of another you might be.
No, I never memorized the periodic table like some of my coworkers. But ask any of them to look up information they have not committed to memory is a two or three day event... There is something to be said for learning methods and beign able to apply them outside of teh ....
Eh, to me, college doesn't test how smart you are. A lot of the classes I've taken are all about memorization. After taking these classes, I've learned that I either 1) suck at memorization or 2) don't care enough to memorize all this useless shit. I mean what's the point of memorizing glycolysis, kreb's cycle, and other shit like that? I'm pretty sure people reference books and other materials when needed on the job.
I went into college with a undeclared life science major. Then after a few quarters, I chose Biological sciences for a major. I took the required classes and did pretty shitty -- shitty enough to need to switch majors. I sat down with my adviser and she told me I can switch to nutrition or food science. I chose food science because it sounded more interesting and easier than nutrition. I'm doing much better than I have ever done as a biological sciences major, but as a result of switching majors, I have to stay a fifth year.
Everyone who says they're smart enough but just "don't work hard enough" -- isn't that lack of drive a synonym for lack of intelligence? If you were smart enough, you'd have the mental fortitude and discipline to force yourself to just get through it, because it's worth it in the end. Instead, you've made the decision (the wrong one, by your own admission) to forgo the difficult, boring work in lieu of more immediate gratification.
I suppose this is where you get to that ambiguous line between "intelligence" and "personality" -- which one is most influential when making a choice?
I stopped reading right about there. People who purposely misspell the word "the" deserve a special place in hell. The first mistake was easy to over look, but then I wanted to jump through the computer and slap the shit out of you.
edit: I was just joking about the hell part.
There are memorization classes and there are classes that require thinking. It depends on the professor. The former are easy, and that is what most people are used to, but when they take a class with a professor that forces them to think, all of a sudden its not so easy and people fail fail fail. Professor put things on the test that were not in the homework or anything and require people to figure out the problems on the spot using concepts that were previously learned. Memorizing procedures for solving problems does not work. A giant cheat sheet with all the equations and crap written down does not work. I had a tough time when I first encountered a class like this and 2/3 of the class dropped that time. And I busted my ass to get a B when I was used to easy As. But since then I've caught on and can get As even in those classes, as long as I study and prepare very well.
I don't think so. I think there's a pretty clear line between intelligence and drive. Yeah, I got a 35 on my ACTs, but far less intelligent kids knew just as much as me in school because they worked harder. Fortunately, I have found that my lack of drive hasn't carried over to my career. School was just boring for some reason.Everyone who says they're smart enough but just "don't work hard enough" -- isn't that lack of drive a synonym for lack of intelligence? If you were smart enough, you'd have the mental fortitude and discipline to force yourself to just get through it, because it's worth it in the end. Instead, you've made the decision (the wrong one, by your own admission) to forgo the difficult, boring work in lieu of more immediate gratification.
I suppose this is where you get to that ambiguous line between "intelligence" and "personality" -- which one is most influential when making a choice?
My short comings from an accomplishment perspective are entirely due to my unwillingness to put in the required effort to reach particular benchmarks. With the exception of advanced physics, I have never me a topic I was not capable of mastering.
Laziness is a bitch...
No.
Intelligence and drive are two separate things. I consider myself very intelligent. I'm not in "mental" practice of constantly solving problems like I was in school, but give me just about any field of study and problems and I'll eventually get it. That process was faster when I was younger and in practice to be sure.
Just because you are mentally capable of handling complex problems, doing mental exercises, and following fields of studies does not mean you must have a drive to do so.
Now, since my mental drive on most topics has gone down since I was a kid, that doesn't mean I couldn't catch back up. Just means I would have to work harder to do so. It is like riding a bike, or for me art. I can still do it, and when I feel inspired enough to do so I will, but for the most part I lack the drive. The skill and talent is still there they are just a little rusty.
This. I almost certainly would've had a 4.0 gpa in college if I studied hard enough every day and didn't procrastinate. Instead I studied the night before, and started papers at the last second possible. I settled for a ~3.5 gpa. Not bad, imo.
My penis started to hurt:twisted:
But a higher level of intelligence means a person can accomplish a given task with less effort than someone with lesser intelligence. If both people have the same level of innate "drive", the person with more intelligence is more likely to simply accomplish the task, as it takes less effort for them. The less intelligent person might not, because to make up for his lack of intelligence, he would need to put in more effort than his level of motivation allows.
Everyone who says they're smart enough but just "don't work hard enough" -- isn't that lack of drive a synonym for lack of intelligence? If you were smart enough, you'd have the mental fortitude and discipline to force yourself to just get through it, because it's worth it in the end. Instead, you've made the decision (the wrong one, by your own admission) to forgo the difficult, boring work in lieu of more immediate gratification.