Question At what point is your old CPU garbage?

[CuriousMike]

I was just throwing out an old Antec case / guts - I even left an ASUS B350 mobo in it.
I pulled out the Ryzen 1700, the 250GB SSD and the 16GB of DDR4 ram.

I have no idea why I kept those parts - the Ryzen 1700 is useless, the 250GB SSD is too small / useless and the ram... well... I have two other Ryzen 5x00 mini-itx builds that are already maxed on RAM.

But yet I kept these pieces.
I seem to always keep my old pieces ... they just sit in the garage for about 10 years until they're finally recycled.

What do you do with your old hardware? Do you hold onto it "just in case" ?

 

[aigomorla]

Are you provoking him into shocking us?

LOL... id be bored without @AdamK47.
I try hard to maintain that 1% advantage i hope to get when bleeding edge comes out and i pull all my channels to get it a few extra days earlier then he can.

Also it gets loney running up here solo.
You need a spotter / chaser, and well he's both to me.

Of course i'll throw him an occasional trap by screaming HASHIMOTO / BITCOIN / ETHERIUM.... which then i see him pull a 90 degree to shoot down those messages before they get bigger.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Speaking of Zalman cooler, Brett of UFD Tech built a rig with a Core2Quad Q9550... and an RTX 3090ti! Goes through some games.

Yeah that's the one they still sell. I think they used to have a bigger one. The 9700 or something like that?

I found one more! The O.G. of air coolers. This the original Thermalright T.R.U.E. I slapped a 120mm Noctua on it back in the day. I used it on my i7 920 Socket 1366.

I remember the TRUE and its earlier variants being pretty popular, especially with people that were willing to put a San Ace on it. It was ultimately rendered obsolete by the NH-D14, but it was a darn sight better than the Zalman coolers.

 

[bigboxes]

That is... very regrettable, and I agree, he has a similar join date as I, I've never seen any offensive or actionable posts from him ever, to my knowledge.

That being said, I have my own personal strong suspicions that it wasn't JUST the comments in this thread that caused him to rage-quit. Most humans are emotionally akin to an iceberg, there's a lot more under the surface that you can't / don't see.

The comments in this thread weren't nearly as harsh as some that I've received on here, after mentioning that I mine crypto. People cursing me, saying I should be burned at the stake, or thrown in prison. Well, saying that "miners" should be, right after I self-identified as a miner.

Edit: But really, both sets were rather uncalled for, in a civil tech discussion forum.

I do still think that he's a bit of a 1%'er, and this thread was his "weird flex", but I am sorry to see him go like that. I think that he was really just crying out for attention, because he was having a bad day elsewhere, IRL.

Edit: One way that I get rid of older mobos and CPUs, is I give them away to people who buy things from me. I had a couple of GPU sales, and I gave away a B450 mATX board and a CPU to one customer, and gave a Tomahawk Max B450 and a CPU to the other. I mean, it's not like they're going to go to the trouble of returning them... LOL. (Really, I informed them before shipping, and the mobos were BNIB.)

You are scum for mining crypto. Never forget how low you are.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

The tragedy of Darth Curious aside. This thread has the positive upside of serving as a PSA concerning responsible stewardship of tech hardware, and how to sell or donate. Silver lining and all that.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

In the many years that Adam has been here, he has been pretty decent. He insulted me once, in that I did not use DDR5 in my Alder lake build, but other than that, he is a proud Intel supporter who may post good things about his hardware, but never belittles anybody for using AMD, just posts benchmarks that favor Intel, or his hardware. And he does use the best of Intel. I would most likely support him if anybody tried to put him down.

Adam is awesome. I think he is the guy that showed a screenshot of how many games he had back in the day, It was massive. I would love to see where it is at now.

 

[AdamK47]

95% of the time I sell my last gen hardware at a fair price.

Adam is awesome. I think he is the guy that showed a screenshot of how many games he had back in the day, It was massive. I would love to see where it is at now.

Up to 1,385 installed.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Up to 1,385 installed.

8TB SSD?

 

[AdamK47]

8TB SSD?

Two 8TB RAID-0

 

[aigomorla]

8TB SSD?

He's being modest by not telling you that its 2 x Rocket nVME's in R-0.

Im the other anthesis to him using these guys in R-0. You see what i mean about he is my chaser / spotter.

We both net near the same cap... only i NEED my PCI-E lanes.... every last counts for me.... while i believe he exhausted his entirely.
Also i believe i have 2-3x the write endurance he has since my data is spread across 4 drives, and not 2.
My game library is at arround 800ish the last time i counted.

This is however spread across Uplay / Origin / Steam / GoG / Epic.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

I went heavily more on TBW endurance.. then absolute top speed.

With 4TB drives, that is unlikely to ever be an issue. Even my much misused 2TB boot drive has only clocked 5.73TB in a years time. Yielding a grand total of 2.865 write cycles used. It's rated for 900TBW, so I'm good for the next 157-odd years. I doubt it'll be my problem then.

 

[aigomorla]

I found pics of my old Intel Sossoman. I would consider this obsolete.... a rasberry pi could probably out perform it now. lol.
But it did set a path for intel to follow in "low tdp" cpu's.

It was a experimental low voltage server build intel had.
Basically housed 2 laptop processors in dual cpu config.
It was a very good machine which sipped power.
I think this is when Intel decided to make low power server chips, seeing how well the Sossoman did in those niche applications.

Enjoy~





And like all Aigo style builds... i went crazy on cooling.


And i'll throw in a extra... here is the first full cover GPU waterblock eK made when it was owned by Eddy.

 

[DrMrLordX]

I'm guessing those copper pin heatsinks weren't standard for the Sossoman board?

 

[aigomorla]

I'm guessing those copper pin heatsinks weren't standard for the Sossoman board?

no... they were Enzo Ram sinks, which im sure you remember how much we hated them. Also the many times we "#@$@##@" cuz they never stayed on, or stayed on so well, when we pulled them off, it would yank the gpu ram off the PCB along with it.

 

[catkicker]

Back to the days of Socket 939 systems, my gaming rigs were handed over or down to other family members as I upgraded. My two youngest are still on LGA 1150 i7 rigs and gaming with no issues

heres a blast from the past

coolit freezone NF4 UltaD motherboard antec case

 

[aigomorla]

I am sort of sad.... i lost all my photobucket pictures of my DFI LP S939 when photobucket locked access to my account.
The oldest ones i have left over is probably this on the Original eVGA NF4 LGA775 i believe.

This is preconditioned before i did the loop:


Back then Tim Allen was my role model, you needed to use a REAL MAN PUMP... and not a D5 / DDC.

Heres a DFI LP X38 Board I believe this is the first X class motherboard Intel made right before SkullTrail.
I miss DFI.




I hated DDR2, they were MASSIVELY PRONE to dying, so you always needed to keep that DDR2 supply incase one died:


@Shmee
Here is one specially for you.. the first X58 Board created. You remember this guy before the Classified came out:


And then it was followed by the Classified... which was a total game changer in the way boards were created, as it was the first board Shimano dedicated his work too, then he moved over to Gigabyte.





All the systems posted i would call obsolete, except the top, as the X58 still has useful purpose running a NAS or other light file server duty as it has 2 x 16x PCI-E lanes for you to add a 10gbe and a HBA controller. Not to mention Shmee is still using a X58

 

[bigboxes]

I am sort of sad.... i lost all my photobucket pictures of my DFI LP S939 when photobucket locked access to my account.
The oldest ones i have left over is probably this on the Original eVGA NF4 LGA775 i believe.

This is preconditioned before i did the loop:
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Back then Tim Allen was my role model, you needed to use a REAL MAN PUMP... and not a D5 / DDC. View attachment 64044

Heres a DFI LP X38 Board I believe this is the first X class motherboard Intel made right before SkullTrail.
I miss DFI.
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I hated DDR2, they were MASSIVELY PRONE to dying, so you always needed to keep that DDR2 supply incase one died:
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@Shmee
Here is one specially for you.. the first X58 Board created. You remember this guy before the Classified came out:
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And then it was followed by the Classified... which was a total game changer in the way boards were created, as it was the first board Shimano dedicated his work too, then he moved over to Gigabyte.

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All the systems posted i would call obsolete, except the top, as the X58 still has useful purpose running a NAS or other light file server duty as it has 2 x 16x PCI-E lanes for you to add a 10gbe and a HBA controller. Not to mention Shmee is still using a X58

Thanks for sharing. I've said this before, but I hated that DFI LANParty board. Got tired of having to constantly fiddle with it trying to keep it stable. I still have my i7 920 D0 doing HTPC duty in a P6T Deluxe v2. Loved that board. I didn't get the max o/c, but it was super stable and quiet. I still have some DDR2 somewhere. New and in the box. I don't think it had any heatsink.

 

[Shmee]

Yeah a lot of X58 boards can handle up to 48GB of DDR3, unofficially. And 6 core Westmere xeons are super cheap, reasonably fast, and they still can OC. @aigomorla yeah the Evga X58 is the board my dad has in his personal desktop. Haha! A couple years ago I was able to upgrade it from a HDD with Vista (still) to an SSD with Windows 10. Also dusted it out and put in a USB 3 card and a new CPU cooler, as well as an i7 980X while I was at it.

 

[igor_kavinski]

as well as an i7 980X while I was at it.

Intel Core i7-980X Benchmarks - Geekbench

Wow. Still got some life left in it.

 

[aigomorla]

@Shmee
If i still had my 990X i would totally mail it to you.
As you know i was required to physically destroy all ES's after validation was done, or keep it in house or give it to a friend who will not resell it.

And these guys were Unicorns.



But alas, i think i killed it by pushing 1.6vcore into it, to see how it would do over LN2, while it was doing something like 5.3ghz and it went Kaput afterwards.

 

[Shmee]

Intel Core i7-980X Benchmarks - Geekbench

Wow. Still got some life left in it.

Indeed, and keep in mind those don't even do it justice, as most Westmeres/Gultowns can do 4.2GHz or higher no problem. Intel clocked a lot of their chips of 32nm to 22nm process very conservatively. Hence you had chips OCed by 50% or more quite frequently.

 

[aigomorla]

Indeed, and keep in mind those don't even do it justice, as most Westmeres/Gultowns can do 4.2GHz or higher no problem. Intel clocked a lot of their chips of 32nm to 22nm process very conservatively. Hence you had chips OCed by 50% or more quite frequently.

Bloomfields and Kentsfields = TANKS.

You couldn't kill them even with overvolting + .5vcore.... which was massive.
I remember pushing a Q6600 -> 1.55vcore, and it still ended up chugging for 6 addition months at that vcore.
Did i kill it? No, it was swapped to a QX6800, which was a whole different monster in itself with a unlocked core.
Then finally replaced with a cherry sample QX6950, which i like to call the glass cannon.

Now Yorkfields were Ballerina's, if you give them too much voltage, they would die so fast, you wouldn't even have a chance to say OMG.
I remember mailing back my sponsor a tray of 8 cpu's i killed for him to send back to intel.
Intel really wanted the dead cpu's back. They actually begged there partners to please send the dead ones back, and they would get replaced with fresh ones.

Bloomfields, the i7-920 i have yet to see or meet someone who killed it from supplying it too much voltage, unless it was something really stupid like 2.1vcore.

Bloomfields were so darn resilient, i would call them intel's cockroach.
Well to AMD tho, it was the nail the sealed the coffin for the company to hell until Lisa Su took over.
Gulftown's i have killed a few, they were not as impenetrable as Bloomies were, it was mostly due to a weaker IMC, but you did get 2 extra cores and 4 working threads. (Remember Bloomies and Gulfies reintroduced hyperthreading) Something we all saw and thought useless on Prescott unless you had the IPC to support those hyperthreads, which didn't happen unless you could clock that prescott to 6ghz+ or change arch entirely over to C2D.

 

[Shmee]

Yeah. Honestly I think the best to OC were the Westmere Xeons, provided you had a decent board for BLCK OC. Though I also heard some E5 1680v3 CPUs did like 4.6GHz or more, and those were 8 cores.

 

[Hotrod2go]

Viewing this thread on a Phenom II X6 1055T at stock, sitting in a 890GM chipset board with 1600 ram CL8, OS on SSD. Very smooth experience inside a browser with 15 tabs open & playing a video as well in win10.
Good enough can hardly tell, if at all the difference compared to a DDR4 system from the last several yrs...
One could say that's a subjective assessment, but give it a try & see what I mean.
For doing light stuff on the desktop, PC evolution hit a satisfactory level about a decade ago.

 

[tomatosummit]

Viewing this thread on a Phenom II X6 1055T at stock, sitting in a 890GM chipset board with 1600 ram CL8, OS on SSD. Very smooth experience inside a browser with 15 tabs open & playing a video as well in win10.
Good enough can hardly tell, if at all the difference compared to a DDR4 system from the last several yrs...
One could say that's a subjective assessment, but give it a try & see what I mean.
For doing light stuff on the desktop, PC evolution hit a satisfactory level about a decade ago.

I agree with this for the most part.
My side system is a passive cooled tablet with some broadwell-U cpu. For personal tier stuff it's very usable, having an ssd is more important the cpu today.
Of course there is the modern software problem. I can obviously bring it to it's knee's with dozens of youtube tabs and I wouldn't dare try to run today's electron apps, teams and similar.
An 8W 2ghz 2c/4t probably competes in the same arenas as a late core2s phenoms. I even wonder if an athlon64x2 would fare today with an ssd.

My personal standards would be; obsolete usefully is anything without low power states and the cynic in me is whatever you buy is obsolete the moment you buy it.

 

[Hotrod2go]

I agree with this for the most part.
My side system is a passive cooled tablet with some broadwell-U cpu. For personal tier stuff it's very usable, having an ssd is more important the cpu today.
Of course there is the modern software problem. I can obviously bring it to it's knee's with dozens of youtube tabs and I wouldn't dare try to run today's electron apps, teams and similar.
An 8W 2ghz 2c/4t probably competes in the same arenas as a late core2s phenoms. I even wonder if an athlon64x2 would fare today with an ssd.

My personal standards would be; obsolete usefully is anything without low power states and the cynic in me is whatever you buy is obsolete the moment you buy it.

I get the point that lack of modern instruction sets are missing on the old Phenom II's but then one could get a dirt cheap FX series to circumnavigate that issue. Heck, my 890GM based board has support for 1st gen FX series & 2000MHz ram, but I just had these parts kicking around doing nothing & got curious.