Cho'gall is a bit of a DPS race in p3. Do you have a high number of plate DPS or something? Are you not killing the eye stalks and suffering bad output from the -75% debuff that they put on you?
Interesting that your hunter is running Marksman spec and doing so well. I had thought all hunters had given up on Marksman and migrated over to Survival.
We were lacking gear to boost the dps of people higher when needed. Also, having two ranged dps and someone's alt for the adds there is not ideal. This past week we got a boomkin to raid and got him some gear (trinket from Atramedes and OH from Halfus) along with a new hunter that came from a 12/12 guild. We have four ranged dps for the fight this week hopefully.
We finally killed Nefarian last night, but unfortunately... I cannot get the cool mount because I'm only revered with my guild . That bastard also didn't drop my axe!
Took quite a few tries:
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/kmbfmvm649zm7e5w/
I'm workin' on a video, but I need to get a good idea for a precursor part... I have a few decent ideas, but one I can't do since I deleted all previous footage. I thought about putting almost a quick flashing montage of wiping plus some sort of uplifting but strong remark (like Sammy J's line in Snakes on a Plane). My other idea is interesting and actually involves real life footage .
Four ranged and one melee? Us poor melee feel neglected
Grats on the Nef kill.
That fight discourages melee to even be in the room which is pathetic. Some of the mechanics are just stupid.
I did see a strat where a guild used one tank, three healers and six dps. We have been going with two tanks, two healers and six dps.
Not sure if you mean Cho'gall or Nefarian, but the only disadvantage that we have on Nefarian is phase 2. We decided to use one crackle during phase 2 to help lower the amount of time we'd spend kiting during phase 3, because it seemed that the more time we spent... the harder it became (less CDs available as you end up using them all, etc). Well, you'll notice on the chart for the kill, that my DPS went incredibly low (~4-5k) at one point and stayed there for awhile. That was actually during phase 2 after the mob on my pillar was dead. I could only use Lightning Bolt and Unleash Elements on Nefarian :\.
With Cho'gall, the problematic part with melee is probably phase 2 with the eye stalks. There's a huge advantage to not having breaks in DPS and melee having to move around is never great. If the ranged is close enough, a simple switch in target is sufficient.
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Anyone familiar with Warrior tank mechanics? I use the Mr. Robot optimizer to optimize my warrior the other day, and I went from about 10.5% dodge / 14.5% parry / 47.5 mastery to 11.5/13.5/51 respectively. However, after using the optimizer and reforging/gemming as necessary, my expertise went from 26 to 18. I suppose I'm not worried about threat due to vengeance, but losing that much expertise makes me nervous about initial pulls (My hit is somewhere like 1.8% I believe also). Thoughts?
EDIT: I found the website at EJ about the 11th page in on the tanking guide after their discussion on avoidance and some lengthy number crunching they were doing. I got rid of a LOT of stamina (I lost about 8k health) when I re-gemmed...
I could ask him if you want to know why he's playing Marks instead of Survival.
Anyone familiar with Warrior tank mechanics? I use the Mr. Robot optimizer to optimize my warrior the other day, and I went from about 10.5% dodge / 14.5% parry / 47.5 mastery to 11.5/13.5/51 respectively. However, after using the optimizer and reforging/gemming as necessary, my expertise went from 26 to 18. I suppose I'm not worried about threat due to vengeance, but losing that much expertise makes me nervous about initial pulls (My hit is somewhere like 1.8% I believe also). Thoughts?
EDIT: I found the website at EJ about the 11th page in on the tanking guide after their discussion on avoidance and some lengthy number crunching they were doing. I got rid of a LOT of stamina (I lost about 8k health) when I re-gemmed...
Regardless of why he is running M, hes doing top notch DPS. Ive started to see more diversity in what people are running. The Hunter on my server with the top gear score is running Beast Master, the second is running Marksman. Still the majority of the Raiding hunters appear to be Survival.
EDIT: I found the website at EJ about the 11th page in on the tanking guide after their discussion on avoidance and some lengthy number crunching they were doing. I got rid of a LOT of stamina (I lost about 8k health) when I re-gemmed...
The curent wisdom is Mastery Uber Alles, though in my experience in the current and past iterations of the game is that "Current Wisdom" only goes so far. You'll still need to accumulate Stam pieces for Heroic Modes and +Hit pieces for interrupt duty, and the like. Arms is my off spec, so I swap trinkets/belt around and can get to 7 and a half~ish percent on +Hit when I need to.
My Expertise and hit are pretty low in my regular tanking gear at only a few % each, and I don't have threat issues aside from the first few moments. Just be ready to taunt if you need if, like my guild, all your DDs like to pop their cooldowns up front. Vigilance the other tank for faster/greater Vengeance stacking and infinite Taunt refreshes. After the first 10~15 seconds, Threat isn't a problem.
http://stateofdps.com/ shows Marksman ahead of Survival by about 2k.
Talking from the DPS point of view the Pop everything up front method is usually a stupid thing to do. I know some people are hoping their cool down will be over for a second pop before the end of a fight so they hit it at the start but I still like to see the tank get established first.
Our 10 man group has a rogue and a hunter (me).
Except in rare situations our rogue is constantly working Tricks into his rotation and I am doing the same with Misdirect. If any of our DPS pulls a mob off the main tank on an initial pull thats on the DPS and he hears about it from the RL. The one exception is when the Boomkin, who is the Main Tanks RL Father, deliberately tries to piss off the MT by pulling agro off him. Believe it or not its actually pretty funny when he does it; usually on trash mob pulls to spice things up a bit.
Well i finally left my guild. I wasn't on but planned on coming back during the summer, but recent events changed that. I just wasn't a good fit socially anymore, so i think I'm just gonna throw in the towel with the game overall.
After doing some initial tests from my re-gemming/forging from using Mr. Robot, my incoming damage is WAY smoother. I ran a few heroics and every healer told me it was almost boring to heal me as my damage (even from AoE tanking) was going down at a very linear rate. The only thing that sucks is when Rogues/Hunters go ape shit on initial pulls when they see me charge as I lose aggro to the target that's not my main target.
Still don't know why people refuse to use the "assist" button...
1) I don't know what you are talking about, hardly anyone i the guild even knew what happened.
2) Can I have your gold?
just put those skull targets on mobs before pulls. it's universally understood that those should be put down first.