AT World of Warcraft Thread (Mists, Where do you play, General BS and all that)

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Jumpem

Lifer
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How is the game these days for people that want to primarily solo? Are you still kept from getting end game gear if you don't RAID or do group instances?

I am thinking about playing again to see the graphical enhancements in Warlords of Draenor. I mainly played a Beast Master Hunter.
 

Jumpem

Lifer
Sep 21, 2000
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An other question: Do I have to buy every expansion that has been released over the last few several years? It has been at least six or seven years since I have played.
 

Gryz

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An other question: Do I have to buy every expansion that has been released over the last few several years? It has been at least six or seven years since I have played.

Just last week Pandaria has been added to the base game.
So if you have no old account, you need to buy:
1) the base WoW game. This includes classic, TBC, WLK, Cataclysm and Mists of Pandaria. Price is $20.
https://us.battle.net/shop/en/product/game/wow
You might be able to get it even cheaper via some webshops. Buying from Blizzard directly is always the most expensive option.
2) the new expansion. This includes just WoD. Plus one free boost for a character of your choice to level-90. Requires the base version of the game. Price is $50. You can probably buy it at other places for $30-$40. If you buy from Blizzard, you can use your free boost right now. If you buy it somewhere else, you need to wait until the release of WoD before you can boost a character.

If you do have an old account, you only need to buy WoD.
And of course, you always need to buy a month of subscription. (It is not included in WoD).

How is the game these days for people that want to primarily solo? Are you still kept from getting end game gear if you don't RAID or do group instances?
There are several levels of play that reward different gear. This has always been the case.
1) Rewards for solo quests. Usually greens, with a few blues.
2) Rewards for group and dungeon quests. Usually blues. These used to be good long time ago. Nowadays this level of gear is considered garbage.
3) Drops from normal 5-man dungeons. Blues. Easy to acquire.
4) Drops from heroic 5-man dungeons. Harder to acquire in the first weeks. After the majority of the playerbase has decent gear, you'll be carried when signing up via LFD.
5) Reputation gear. Some blues and some purples. Will require a few weeks of grinding reputations with different factions. Can be done solo. Doing 5-man dungeons (via LFD) will probably speed it up.
6) Crafted gear. Usually some blues, nothing special. Maybe one purple BoP item for your own profession. Same kind of gear as the reputation gear.
7) Purple gear that drops in LFR-raids. Endgame gear for half or more of the playerbase. You use the LFR-tool to sign up, you play with 20-30 strangers. Not always a pleasant experience. But overall less bad than what people say.
8) Normal/heroic/mythic raid gear. The first months you'll probably need a fixed group for this. Like a raid-group in a guild. Once people are properly geared and start playing alts, there will be pugs for normal-level raids. Having fun in these pugs is something that will vary from "hell" to "great".

The answer to your question depends on what you think is endgame gear. If you want the best (mythic raiding gear), you need to make friends, invest time, and be an above average player. WoW has always been like that. If you want "full purples" you can do that solo.

In MoP, when the last major patch was done (Sept 2013) there was an island with "catch up gear" to get you ready for LFR of the latest raiding tier in 1-2 weeks. Gearing up has never been so easy.

WoW was a game where you had to be in a guild and had to have friends to get anything done. That has slowly changed over time. Looking-For-Dungeon tool has trivialized heroic dungeons. Looking-For-Raid tool has given access to everybody to epic gear that is just a few item-levels below the best gear. The game has automated tools for people to create and/or join groups. For about everything.

As an example, my guild didn't have a spot for me in their heroic raiding group. (I started playing MoP very late, this January). I raided a bit Flex with my guild. Then played with a pug via OpenRaid.org. In the end, I had almost full heroic (now mythic) gear. Just missing 3 items. I killed 8/14 heroic. I thought this would be impossible in a pug, but we did pretty good.

So in conclusion: if you don't want to commit to a guild or raid-group, you can get pretty good gear, all epic. It'll require some time. It'll require you to play with others (in LFD or LFR), but it won't require you to commit to a group. If you literally only want to solo, you'll have access to only gear which is considered "base-line".

I am thinking about playing again to see the graphical enhancements in Warlords of Draenor. I mainly played a Beast Master Hunter.
As far as I understood, the models have been updated. And I assume the new world (Draenor) will be slightly higher poly-count than the current game. But for the rest, there are no visual enhancements. In fact, Blizzard has downgraded the Anti-Aliasing (from MSAA to some vague blurry variant of FXAA).
On the other hand, if you haven't played in MoP, you might be pleasantly surprised. I thought MoP was a pretty good expansion. Pandaria looked great, had a nice atmosphere, decent stories. If WoD is just as good, that'll be great. Unfortunately, I think MoP was made by the same team that made WLK. And WoD will be made by the other team, the team that made Cataclysm. Cataclysm was terrible in almost all aspects. So if I were you, I'd wait until WoD is released, and see what people think.

Hope this helps.
Gryz. Recovering WoW junkie. Stopped playing 2 weeks ago.
 
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lupi

Lifer
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Have none of you jackholes hit a dummy or been in a raid yet?

edit: well raid dummies are lvl 103, but whatever, have you guys been in a current level raid? What's your dps?

just did a horsemen, recount says I was at 400k. Haven't done any adjustments post patch yet, and number seems high but we spent as much time waiting/fighting the head as the horsemen himself.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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I'm tempted to get the expansion. not sure if i wan't to pay that much though. bah
 

nageov3t

Lifer
Feb 18, 2004
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anyone know if there's a good guide to the new UBRS out there?

tried zoning in and winging it as a healer, but my group wiped three times due to my own incompetence :/
 

JujuFish

Lifer
Feb 3, 2005
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Man did 6.0 nerf SoO. We 1-shot Mythic Siegecrafter tonight, the boss we've been stuck at, and took down mythic Garrosh. Oh well, I shouldn't complain I guess.
 

styrafoam

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anyone know if there's a good guide to the new UBRS out there?

tried zoning in and winging it as a healer, but my group wiped three times due to my own incompetence :/

There is a lot of environmental damage which you wont be able to heal through, people have to pay attention. All of the boss have a mechanic which again requires participation.

http://wod.wowhead.com/news=243610/...asted-lands-and-ubrs-prelaunch-event#strategy

Also, get the interface addon deadly boss mod if you don't already have it.
 

chitwood

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Aug 21, 2008
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was on vacation all last week, just downloaded the patch and tried some things.

Last night I took a 521 DK into 25 ICC. Killed almost everything. Some fights I was blood, others I was frost... didn't seem to make much of a difference. Had to skip Dreamwalker bc I can't heal. Got all the way to Lich King.... he has not been squished yet. Phase 1 was fine.. then he goes mid and channels remorseless winter... something called Ice Pulse hits you for about 8% of your health every second. Verified he's not properly squished on the forums.

They'll probably fix it eventually.
 

Rhezuss

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was on vacation all last week, just downloaded the patch and tried some things.

Last night I took a 521 DK into 25 ICC. Killed almost everything. Some fights I was blood, others I was frost... didn't seem to make much of a difference. Had to skip Dreamwalker bc I can't heal. Got all the way to Lich King.... he has not been squished yet. Phase 1 was fine.. then he goes mid and channels remorseless winter... something called Ice Pulse hits you for about 8% of your health every second. Verified he's not properly squished on the forums.

They'll probably fix it eventually.

Ah that is why ahhaha!
I tried it with a friend last week. All of ICC was a breeze then we got to the Lich King.
I want the mount!
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
Dec 6, 2004
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The DoT from Queen in Blood Wing is not squished right. I can't do my Blood Infusion quest without a good healer
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
Dec 6, 2004
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XP is significantly reduced from 85-90. It takes about 4-5 dungeon runs per level. Got my 87 shaman to 90 with no questing pretty quick.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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yes on xp, had a warrior that was just over 89 as I stopped there when I get my bug rep high enough for the patterns. logged into him doing bag cleanup post patch and he was 1 xp from 90.


Now thinking about it, have a shammie at 86, woudn't be surprised if he is also 1 under 87.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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Bunch more hotfixes yesterday, mostly adjusting various raid bosses not behaving post squish.

I am going to enjoy yet another round of articles come mid november about how blizzard has improved the expansion process yet again and the woes from the BC release are long forgotten, yet somehow ignoring the various crappy situations being fixed now that are due to the expansion but conveniently forgotten.
 

Rhezuss

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Jan 31, 2006
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Is there even a point to questing past level 15?!!?!?

Doing LFG gives you 2-3 levels per runs and loot to boot...dunno that point of questing except if you want to farm specific rep.

sunday it took me 4-5 hours to go from level 1 to 15 and then 45 minutes to go to level 18 heheh
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
Dec 6, 2004
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Is there even a point to questing past level 15?!!?!?

Doing LFG gives you 2-3 levels per runs and loot to boot...dunno that point of questing except if you want to farm specific rep.

sunday it took me 4-5 hours to go from level 1 to 15 and then 45 minutes to go to level 18 heheh

Ya, to wait for the queue if you're DPS lol.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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Gold and rep from BC onwards is the main reason if you want to those and want to limit the farming for them when max level.
 

Rhezuss

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Jan 31, 2006
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Ya, to wait for the queue if you're DPS lol.

Hahahah. I'm a Prot Pally which is still fun to level and I don't wait in LFG.

Never played a Tank and it's really fun...but I don't have a lot of tools for now. I always played DPS and I needed a change so tried Tanking. Next i'll have to try a healer class, that looks like a lot of work but also damn fun if you do it well.

Probably gonna try a Priest or Resto Shaman...
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
Dec 6, 2004
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Hahahah. I'm a Prot Pally which is still fun to level and I don't wait in LFG.

Never played a Tank and it's really fun...but I don't have a lot of tools for now. I always played DPS and I needed a change so tried Tanking. Next i'll have to try a healer class, that looks like a lot of work but also damn fun if you do it well.

Probably gonna try a Priest or Resto Shaman...

I'm the opposite. I've pretty much always played tank (easy groups and queues lol). I have one healer now with my MW Monk which was my first since my resto druid in BC. It's fun but you can't alt/tab and zone out like you can do with DPS/Tank.
 

robvp

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Gold and rep from BC onwards is the main reason if you want to those and want to limit the farming for them when max level.

This, i had nearly 8k gold by level 90 from leveling my warrior questing through northrend, cata and halfway through the jade forest quests, i was thinking of just doing dungeons on druid but i'm gonna need over 6k gold once i hit level 90 for riding lessons
 

Malladine

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I must be in the minority to want slower leveling and more challenging quests and world mobs...

The game is ridiculously easy right now. Really hoping that changes.
 
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