AT World of Warcraft Thread (Warlords, Where do you play, General BS and all that)

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Sonikku

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It's amazing how much less annoying doing dailies is once you can fly. Don't even mind grinding those reps to exalted at this point.

Get a level one stables and it's even better. I was popping bloods for 3% credit in that tribal troll place in Tanaan jungle without even dismounting. Got done in like 2 mins. It's excellent for zooming from clickable objectives to the next, all while remaining airborne.
 

rh71

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How are server populations these days? I left quite a while back (still level 90) when they were so low you'd barely see anyone doing dailies. Then I think they merged a whole bunch of servers. Are they still low or 1-sided? The latter wouldn't even be so bad - it was just plain depressing not seeing anyone around. I was on Forgotten Coast and BDF.
 
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Phoenix86

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How are server populations these days? I left quite a while back (still level 90) when they were so low you'd barely see anyone doing dailies. Then I think they merged a whole bunch of servers. Are they still low or 1-sided? The latter wouldn't even be so bad - it was just plain depressing not seeing anyone around. I was on Forgotten Coast and BDF.

They implemented cross realm zones so if a server is dead you're zoned to another server's area. I'm on a populated server so I don't see it directly because low pop servers are sent here, but I expect this is largely not an issue anymore except maybe while leveling.

http://wow.gamepedia.com/Cross-realm_zones
 

Anubis

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even after xrealm most servers are lopsided

look at wowprogress or realmpop stats, the big servers are all horde or all aliance, ones with equalish pops are pretty low pop in general
 
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DarkRipper

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I don't know if you're on my list, Anubis.

I can't remember what my Battlenet tag is, though. I'm at work so I can't look it up, either.
Phoenix has it!
 

Sonikku

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Well, guess I'll try that dreaded"Blood Infusion" quest again for my Alliance pally for the Shadowmourne quest chain again... Anybody feel like dying?
 

Sonikku

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Pulled it off. Killed the rest of the bosses for the stones and Invincible dropped off Lich King. First time killing him on 25.
 

lupi

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latest GC tweet, hopefully the current dev crew readws it too.


What is the value in actively making something only 1% of your playerbase gets to enjoy? Also, more people own Thoridal and the Warglaives than Shadowmourne, Fangs, Valanyr or Dragonwrath. Can't just be age

From a player point of view, there can be a lot of prestige in having something that few players get. You certainly used to see this with the original WoW legendary weapons when players would hang out in IF/Org just so other players could come fawn over them. I did it with my tier 2 tank armor and Quel'Serrar.

To achieve that as a player, you have to a) be able to acquire something that b) other players can't easily (if ever) get. Having very low drop rates really hurts A because you can't just set your sights on a goal. The RNG will trump whatever commitment you throw at the game. It is however very good at B because it has the same effect on other players.

Long time commitments delay acquisition, but they don't really keep the items rare. The Long Strange Trip Protodrake was "hard" to get in that you had to be very dedicated for a long period of time (and IIRC there was some luck thrown in there as well) but when they were first available, many players had them and more got them over time, and in fact, the existence of that mount pushed us to just make very fast mounts something everyone could acquire.

As more and more players were able to achieve things that used to be rare, say a legendary or High Warlord's PvP gear, the bragging rights diminished. I worked on WoW for 6 years and played it for maybe 8 and even I couldn't tell you who were the elite raiders or gladiators in Mists just by seeing their armor.

What I'm arguing is that maybe that's inevitable. Maybe the time of "Check out that tauren's armor!" passed. Maybe there isn't a way to keep rare things really rare in ways that don't feel shitty to players. However, *if* you decide as a developer that it's important to have rare rewards, I believe the only way to keep them rare is low drop rates. Making them require massive skill or time investment just aren't sufficient any longer.
 

Anubis

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in what context is that tweet because it makes little sense

the first sentence is easily explained by the first 2 being drops and the other 3 being annoying quests that take more then one person to finish

the rest I have no idea what hes trying to convey
 

Anubis

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anyone got millions of gold burning a hole in their pocket? we are selling full mythic clears for the low price of 1.75 million gold
 

Anubis

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its funny we are selling the first 6 tomorrow for 400k
and 11/13 to someone else for 850k

I think next week or the week after we are selling 2 full 13/13 clears to the same person for 3 million
 

Phoenix86

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in what context is that tweet because it makes little sense

the first sentence is easily explained by the first 2 being drops and the other 3 being annoying quests that take more then one person to finish

the rest I have no idea what hes trying to convey

Yeah I don't know, but having 40 people work hard for something so 1 person can get a reward is a horrible system, unless you were that 1 person. Which is apparently was.
 

Anubis

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Yeah I don't know, but having 40 people work hard for something so 1 person can get a reward is a horrible system, unless you were that 1 person. Which is apparently was.

it really wasn't horrid at the time when guilds meant more to people and such, once people started hoping around like they were on crack is when it got bad

which is why in MOP and WOD everyone got a legendary
 
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