AT World of Warcraft Thread (Warlords, Where do you play, General BS and all that)

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Xonim

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Also, LOVING the change where mind sear now benefits from insanity. However, I fully expect a numbers tweak with the first round of hotfixes. My priest is only ilvl 655 now after last night's upgrades, and the only person ahead of me on trash dps-wise was a mage that looked to be 675-680 and was at 35k-ish single target.

Then again, the rotation is a little clunky trying to weave regular sears and mind blasts and targeted SWD's (below 20%) to build orbs before popping DP and then sear/insanity on a friendly as to not interrupt when mobs die. Also, the channel time is longer than MF, so you have to refresh about 2/3rds of the way through the first cast to benefit from insanity on a full 2nd cast.

I think that's because the trader NPC was fur yesterday.

Yeah that was my guess also. I'm thinking I'll start holding on to them until fur day again.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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So, one thing that I noticed about the patch is that the Gorepetal's Gentle Grasp and Peon's Mining Pick actually work for people that aren't Herbalists or Miners.
 

JujuFish

Lifer
Feb 3, 2005
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So, one thing that I noticed about the patch is that the Gorepetal's Gentle Grasp and Peon's Mining Pick actually work for people that aren't Herbalists or Miners.
Peon's Mining Pick has always worked for non-miners, but if that's true about Gorepetal's, then I know what I'm doing tomorrow night.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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Because of weather have barely been in game since patch. Should make up for it today. Best thing I found so far is being able to get garrison resources without dismounting.
 

slag

Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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What the hell happened with this last patch? I used to be able to skate through firelands and never even had damage done to me by any of the bosses. Now, I am getting killed repeatedly. I'm not on heroic mode and I'm a balance druid, level 100, but damn, I can't even kill a couple of the bosses now. WTF?
 

Harabec

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Oct 15, 2005
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Hahah

I'm personally fed up with garrison crap, completely uninteresting followers, twitter...and no flying with no explanation given anywhere in-game.
This has been the most boring xpac to date (I've been in the game since vanilla). Classes themselves are less interesting after the ability pruning.

Also - I dislike the idea of keeping buffs\debuffs and doing 10 small hits then 1 big hit. Warrior's Bloodthirst. Destrolock's incinerates\chaos bolt. WW Monk's Jab...and more.
I Liked WoW a lot more during WotLK.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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Peon's Mining Pick has always worked for non-miners, but if that's true about Gorepetal's, then I know what I'm doing tomorrow night.

But it didn't stack with Preserved Mining Pick, so you always had a 2s cast time. Now, if you have the Peon's Mining Pick and Preserved Mining Pick, you have a .5s mining cast time. Essentially, those two pieces of gear subtract 1.5s off your cast time. For example, my Herbalists herb at a .5s cast time (2s is their default) and non-Herbalists at a 1.5s cast time (3s is their default).
 

Sixguns

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May 22, 2011
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Ashes of Al'ar dropped for me today! One less place on my weekly farm rotation now.

On another note, does anybody use Petbattle Teams add-on? After the patch I lost all my teams and this sucks.
 

Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
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Grats! I farm it every week with about three characters. I figure I only have to unlock it on one to unlock it on all. I have more alts, but only three are a high enough level to weather out the chain CC of the four elves all going at it.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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looks like CM kinda fubared at the moment. They went in and adjusted some of the dungeons to remove ability for some of the bypass routes used, so now literally impossible to top scores posted on some. Blizz says they're discussing it.

Also they changed the new garrison trader to have it on a set rotation. Guess when they get their own RNG it no longer became fun.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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Coming soon to an Azeroth near you: the WoW Token, a new in-game item that allows players to simply and securely exchange gold and game time between each other.

Players will be able to purchase a WoW Token through the in-game Shop for real money, and then sell it on the Auction House for gold at the current market price. When a player buys a WoW Token from the Auction House for gold, the Token becomes Soulbound, and the player can then redeem it for 30 days of game time.



Want to buy a WoW Token for gold? Head to the new Game Time tab in the Auction House, and purchase one immediately for the current gold buyout price—there’s no bidding involved.

When you put a WoW Token up for sale, you’ll be quoted the amount of gold you’ll receive once someone buys it—you’re guaranteed to get that amount no matter how the market moves.

The WoW Token was created to give players with lots of extra gold the option to use it to help cover their subscription cost, and give those who want to purchase gold a way to do so from fellow players through a secure, easy-to-use system. The Token will be making its debut in an upcoming patch—in the meantime, check out the FAQ below for details on how it works.

The Basics
Q: How do I buy a WoW Token for real money?
A: WoW Tokens will be available for purchase for real money through the World of Warcraft in-game Shop. You can access the Shop through the row of feature buttons next to your character’s bags.

Q: I need gold! How do I sell a WoW Token to another player?
A: You’ll be able to sell WoW Tokens through a dedicated Token exchange in the Auction House, located in a new Game Time section. WoW Tokens cannot be traded or sold any other way.

Q: How much gold will I receive when I sell a WoW Token?
A: The gold value of a Token will be determined dynamically based on supply and demand. When you put a Token up for sale, you’ll be quoted the amount of gold you’ll receive upon a successful sale. If you then decide to place the Token up for sale, that amount is locked in, and the gold will be sent to your mailbox after another player purchases your Token.

Q: I need game time! How do I buy a WoW Token from the Auction House?
A: When you visit the Auction House, you’ll be presented with the current market price for a WoW Token in your game region—there’s no bidding involved, and all Tokens in a game region are priced the same at any given moment. If you decide to purchase one, you’ll receive it in your mailbox, and can then immediately redeem it for game time.

Q: How much game time do I get by redeeming a WoW Token?
A: You’ll receive 30 days of game time when you redeem a WoW Token.

Q: Can I resell a WoW Token after I’ve purchased it for gold?
A: No, each WoW Token can only be sold once. After you purchase a Token for gold, it becomes Soulbound. At that point, it can only be redeemed for game time.

The Details
Q: How much will a WoW Token cost on the Shop?
A: Pricing details will be announced at a later date.

Q: Why are you introducing the WoW Token feature?
A: We’ve heard feedback from players that they’d be interested in a secure, legitimate way to acquire gold that doesn’t involve the use of unauthorized third-party gold-selling services—one of the primary sources of account compromises. We also know players who’ve amassed large amounts of gold through regular play would be interested in the ability to trade some to other players in exchange for game time, helping cover their subscription costs.

The WoW Token feature gives players on both sides of the equation a secure and straightforward way to make that exchange. It opens up a new kind of payment option for World of Warcraft players, and we hope that it will also help lead to fewer account compromises and a better game experience overall.

Q: How is acquiring gold by selling a WoW Token different from buying gold from third-party services?
A: Buying gold from third-party services negatively impacts the game experience for everyone. The overwhelming majority of the gold these services provide comes from stolen player accounts, halting the victims’ ability to play the game and contribute to their guilds. On top of this, gold selling companies often farm resources using hack programs, sell fake product codes as a scam, and spam entire realms with ads to buy gold, disrupting the game in very real ways.

The WoW Token allows players to exchange real money for gold in a secure and sanctioned way—together with the ongoing efforts of our developers, support staff, and anti-hack teams to stop the exploits these companies use and help players who have become victims of their operations, we hope the Token can help make World of Warcraft a safer and more enjoyable game for all of our players.

Q: Why can’t players set their own prices for the WoW Token?
A: The WoW Token feature is designed to facilitate the exchange of gold and game time between players in as secure, convenient, and fair a way as possible, and without making players feel like they’re playing a game with their hard-earned money. Having a set current market price and a straightforward exchange system is the best way to achieve that—you don’t need to worry about whether your Token will sell or not due to being undercut or the market shifting, and everyone receives exactly the amount of gold they were quoted.

Q: What happens if the price quoted to me is different from what the Token actually sells for?
A: You will always receive the gold amount quoted to you at the time you place a Token up for sale, regardless of what the current price is when the item actually sells.

Q: How long should I expect to receive my gold after putting a Token up for sale? How does the game determine whose Token to sell?
A: The amount of time it takes to receive your gold after putting a Token up for sale depends on a variety of factors, including the current supply and demand. When you list a Token, you’ll be quoted an estimated time based on the current Token supply and the rate of recent transactions, but the actual amount of time it takes to sell is likely to vary (note that Tokens do not expire). In most cases, Tokens are sold in the order in which they were put up for sale; however, there are some exceptions to this, such as when a Token purchase is undergoing verification.

Q: If I buy a WoW Token from the Auction House, how long does it take to receive the Token?
A: Just like a standard Auction House purchase, it will normally arrive in your mailbox nearly instantaneously.

Q: If I’m buying a WoW Token for real money from the in-game Shop, how long does it take to receive it?
A: Once you successfully complete a purchase, your Token should arrive in your inventory (or mailbox, if your inventory is full) almost immediately.

Q: Do Tokens expire? What happens if I accidentally delete one?
A: No, Tokens do not expire. They also can’t be deleted, so no need to fear accidentally trashing them.

Q: Can I stop my auction or receive a refund after it was purchased (for gold or real money)?
A: All transactions are considered final and auctions cannot be cancelled, so make sure you’re certain you want to proceed before listing or buying a Token. To help prevent unintentional transactions, you will be prompted to confirm your purchase or sale before it’s finalized.

Q: Is there a deposit? Does the Auction House take a cut of the Token seller’s gold?
A: There’s no deposit, and the Auction House does not take a cut of the gold for WoW Token sales. The standard deposit is designed to dissuade players from spamming the auction house with items that aren’t selling, and the standard cut is designed to dissuade players from buying and reselling items for minuscule markups. These issues don’t apply to the WoW Token, so there’s no need for a deposit or cut.

Q: Will each game region have its own WoW Token exchange? Will everyone in a game region have access to it?
A: Each game region—Americas (including ANZ realms), Europe, Taiwan, Korea, and China—will have its own shared WoW Token exchange. We’ll share additional details at a later date.
 

SithSolo1

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Well that escalated quickly.


While I'd like to be able to buy time with gold I'm not paying more than 5k for a token. My guess is it will be much higher than that.
 

Anubis

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Aug 31, 2001
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Q: I need gold! How do I sell a WoW Token to another player?
A: You’ll be able to sell WoW Tokens through a dedicated Token exchange in the Auction House, located in a new Game Time section. WoW Tokens cannot be traded or sold any other way.

calling it a AH does not read "cost will be set" to me
 

drebo

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Feb 24, 2006
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calling it a AH does not read "cost will be set" to me

If you read the rest of the post, you'll notice that players do not have the ability to set their cost. Cost will be derived based on supply and demand and the rate of movement.

Which does open up the interesting possibility of being able to sell high and buy low (i.e. this month I sold one for 20k but next month I could buy one for 15k.)

I suspect that blizz will want to keep the prices relatively high. Somewhere between 10k and 30k.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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Yeah I don't think players will have much control other than select yes/no to accept quoted sell price and same for buying. It sounds like blizz will adjust the token AH like a commodity market to keep them moving (and presumably to keep people buying them with real money) but individuals will have no ability to set any gold prices, just whether to accept what the systems presents them.
 

robvp

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If you read the rest of the post, you'll notice that players do not have the ability to set their cost. Cost will be derived based on supply and demand and the rate of movement.

Which does open up the interesting possibility of being able to sell high and buy low (i.e. this month I sold one for 20k but next month I could buy one for 15k.)

I suspect that blizz will want to keep the prices relatively high. Somewhere between 10k and 30k.

Edit: Read it the other way around
 

Phoenix86

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May 21, 2003
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Gold is roughly worth $15 for ~20K gold (from gold sellers).

They will have to compete and it'll form a rough equilibrium.

1 month = $15 = 20K gold

Where the 20K number varies.
 

JujuFish

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Feb 3, 2005
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I'd be happy with 20k. I'd immediately stop paying for WoW outside of expansions.

I'd sell my gold at that rate if it were safe.
 
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