AT World of Warcraft Thread (WotLK, where do you play, General BS and all that)

[dartworth]

its funny to see people trying to quest without quest helper...

they don't even read the quests

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I hate to say it guys but I think the complainers really screwed up something that we all did not appreciate with BC. Everyone complained 'oh noes you have made my T3 useful by a quest green!' but now look where we are. I don't even see any items in the first few dungeons that are going to be worth using much less quest rewards. And that means this expansion, at least the first half of it, is going to be just another xp/gold farm. Ugh.

Am I alone in this? Do you not feel like you're missing something when every single quest is a search for the most profitable gold return?

what exactly are you getting at

Everyone complained 'oh noes you have made my T3 useful by a quest green!'

i dont understand

A lot of people were complaining that their level 60 epic gear was being replaced VERY quickly by greens/blues in Outland. This time around that isn't going to happen. The quest/dungeon setup is, for the most part, laid out to help out the guy who just dinged 70 while the average/above average BC raider won't get to see much in the line of quest and dungeon upgrades until mid 70s +.

I just miss being able to upgrade myself a couple of pieces a level like in BC. As it is now I just pick the most profitable vendor item from the reward list and continue on my merry way.

ahh you meant to type USELESS not USEFUL which is why i had no idea WTF you were talking about. And honestly i disagree with you its no different then TBC

i entered TBC with 8/9 T3 and KT weps, i used 8/9 T3 and KT weps until i was at least 68, i was using 3/9 when i went into Kara, i used KT weps until i got exalted with aldor for that sword and got an offhand outta kara, KT weps were the same DPS/damage as lvl 70 blues

from what i have seen going into WOTLK in 8/8 T6 + KJ weps + sunwell off parts i will not replace anything untill im almost 80,

 

[CalvinHobbes]

Originally posted by: dartworth
its funny to see people trying to quest without quest helper...

they don't even read the quests

I'm actually enjoying not having a quest helper installed. It's been fun to read the quests and find the goals by myself. I finally had to disable general chat due to the stupidity of the people who were in the DK starting zone.

 

[AntiFreze]

wow.... it has come to an end. I've been playing since beta and I think I'm going to cancel my subscription. I was sort of excited about WotLK, but.... I think im going to play all those other games I missed as well as my freelance.

sad that a 70 rogue, mage, druid are all going to to waste. ah well.

 

[Lamont Burns]

You'll be back.

Every time you think you're out... they pull you back in.

 

[ggnl]

Originally posted by: Lamont Burns
You'll be back.

Every time you think you're out... they pull you back in.

I've been itching to reactivate my sub to try out the expansion, but I've resisted so far and the urge is waning.

wowdetox helps.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: AntiFreze
wow.... it has come to an end. I've been playing since beta and I think I'm going to cancel my subscription. I was sort of excited about WotLK, but.... I think im going to play all those other games I missed as well as my freelance.

sad that a 70 rogue, mage, druid are all going to to waste. ah well.

if you didnt play faggoty aliance i would have gladly paid you for your accnt

 

[VashHT]

I leveled my DK to 60 last night, they are soo fun lol. I specced my guy frost and I'm having a blast with him so far. So much more fun to level with than my rogue. I can pull 2 or 3 or 4 guys and own them on my DK, while with my rogue 2 guys at once would be dangerous just because rogues take so much damage. I'm definitely making this guy my main though, for me it's the most fun class I've played so far.

Anyway to add to the list my new guy is:
Mordecåi - BE Death Knight - Lvl 60 - Demon Soul

 

[Anubis]

played a bit last night in Halowing fyorde (sp) and it looks amazing, visually its much better then TBC, kinda amzing, did some instances, Keep, the spider place as well as the one over in tundra, all are pretty easy, short and pretty fun
the mob character models simply look amazing. and the music is great as well, even if you generally play with sounds off as many do i recomend turning them on for lvling

 

[VashHT]

Originally posted by: Anubis
played a bit last night in Halowing fyorde (sp) and it looks amazing, visually its much better then TBC, kinda amzing, did some instances, Keep, the spider place as well as the one over in tundra, all are pretty easy, short and pretty fun
the mob character models simply look amazing. and the music is great as well, even if you generally play with sounds off as many do i recomend turning them on for lvling

I really like the approach BLizz is taking with regards to graphics with this game. They continue to improve them little by little as time goes on, but continue to keep the game easy to run because they update them at a relatively slow pace. Now if only they'd fix the problem with their dynamic shadows and crossfire I would be really happy.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: VashHT

Originally posted by: Anubis
played a bit last night in Halowing fyorde (sp) and it looks amazing, visually its much better then TBC, kinda amzing, did some instances, Keep, the spider place as well as the one over in tundra, all are pretty easy, short and pretty fun
the mob character models simply look amazing. and the music is great as well, even if you generally play with sounds off as many do i recomend turning them on for lvling

I really like the approach BLizz is taking with regards to graphics with this game. They continue to improve them little by little as time goes on, but continue to keep the game easy to run because they update them at a relatively slow pace. Now if only they'd fix the problem with their dynamic shadows and crossfire I would be really happy.

what is the specific isseue with dynamic shadows and crossfire?

 

[VashHT]

Basically if you have crossfire enabled the shadows flicker like crazy, something to do with the alternating frame method they use for it. So far the only solution ATI or Blizz have put out has been, "Disable crossfire", so I doubt it'll ever get fixed. If I disable crossfire (I'm using a 4870X2) then they work fine, but then I get slowdowns when the screen gets packed with effects and such.

 

[Anubis]

couldent you just turn shadow detail way down? or is it still too noticable

 

[Vehemence]

Well after watching my friend play a DK for abotu an hour I decided to renew.... O_O

 

[VashHT]

Originally posted by: Anubis
couldent you just turn shadow detail way down? or is it still too noticable

Well I have to turn them all the way down for it to stop flickering, but I have the graphical power to run it so I don't really want to. The dynamic shadows look so good too that I would rather play in single card mode than in crossfire with the shadows turned down. I mean for the most part playing it with a single 4870 is more than enough, it's really only in extreme cases, like a heavy fight in PVP or something like that where I notice some slowdown.

It's more of an annoyance than anything, I just don't like the idea that I can't use my card to its full potential just because Blizz/ATI are too lazy to fix it. I mean there are plenty of games out there with dynamic shadows that work fine with crossfire, so I guess it has something to do with the way they implement them. Likewise SLi can work with the new shadows if you change the rendering method, so it could also be fixed on the driver side if ATI would add this alternate rendering method.

 

[BZeto]

I did The Nexus last night as rogue, feral druidx2, shadow priest, ret pally. Personally I found it boring. Hallway after hallway of the same crap with terrible scenery and easy bosses. Maybe it's just the zone theme altering my mood, as I would much prefer some green like Nagrand or STV.

Either way I'm looking forward to going home and leveling some more.

 

[jhbball]

I'm not going to buy the xpac until Baron's mount drops. LOL.

But yeah, my char's name is Xanadue, 70 warrior on Korgath. Started on Tich, then went to Kalecgos, then transferred to Korgath recently.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: BZeto
I did The Nexus last night as rogue, feral druidx2, shadow priest, ret pally. Personally I found it boring. Hallway after hallway of the same crap with terrible scenery and easy bosses. Maybe it's just the zone theme altering my mood, as I would much prefer some green like Nagrand or STV.

Either way I'm looking forward to going home and leveling some more.

if you want green go over to Hallowing fyord, it looks amazing

and yes Tundra/nexus isnt the most visually appealing but i still like it, HF is better much better, and the higher lvl zones are also pretty awesome looking

having done Nexus, Keep and Anu'brak (sp) i found them all interesting, i liked how the nexus looked personally, Anu'brak is also nice, great spider theme, the bosses are easy in them all but they are starter instances, running BF and ramps at 60-62 was no different

 

[wheresmybacon]

I pre-ordered and went to the midnight launch @ our local Best Buy. Got the game at about 12:15, played til 4:30 AM, then slept til about 11. Yeah I took the day off. My DK is now parked @ the Inn in Hellfire and is level 61.

Man I really love the DK class. I?m probably making this guy my new main.

 

[CalvinHobbes]

My DK is at 58 (1 bubble away from 59) and I still have no put any talents into the tree. I've been trying to read up on it as much as I can but I can't really find anything that makes any spec sound better than the others. My plan was to go DPS with less downtime so I thought blood would be the best spec. Any thoughts?

 

[VashHT]

Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes
My DK is at 58 (1 bubble away from 59) and I still have no put any talents into the tree. I've been trying to read up on it as much as I can but I can't really find anything that makes any spec sound better than the others. My plan was to go DPS with less downtime so I thought blood would be the best spec. Any thoughts?

I'll put up the frost spec I've been using so far if you want, seems pretty good for dps and the downtime is pretty minimal thanks the the ability to make death runes pretty easily. I'll post it up after lunch though, not enough time atm.

 

[Scrimmy]

I'm curious about something; I quit about two years ago but I'm considering picking the game up again to see the new content. When I played before, I was a pretty hard-core raider: C'thun farming guild before Naxx, but I burned out and quit about halfway through Naxx, picked it up again for BC, then burned out on the endless rep grind and didn't feel like putting in 4 hours a night raiding anymore.

I'd consider myself a hardcore/casual player mostly now. Sometimes I'll be able to devote large amounts of playtime, but I really don't want to be locked into the part-time job that is WoW raiding anymore. It sounds like I'll be able to see most of the content at this point because of how Blizzard is doing the raid content (10 and 25 man raid, but different loot), but I'd be curious about some actual feedback from someone who's been playing for a while to get a sense of it.

I'm curious about PvP, as well. i ground to rank 11 in the old PvP system on my druid and love to PvP, but again, I'm just curious how much time is involved to get a character up to be halfway-competitive.

And one more question ... I sold my account when I quit before (nice chunk of change, too. ), so I'm curious what it's like to start from scratch now. It sounds like the leveling is considerably faster in general, but aren't there also some shortcuts if you've got another higher-level character? A friend of mine who also quit may start up with me, so I'm curious how that "Bring a Friend" thing works, and I guess just a general overview of the trip to 70/80 now be a huge help.

Thanks!

 

[invidia]

Originally posted by: Scrimmy
I'm curious about something; I quit about two years ago but I'm considering picking the game up again to see the new content. When I played before, I was a pretty hard-core raider: C'thun farming guild before Naxx, but I burned out and quit about halfway through Naxx, picked it up again for BC, then burned out on the endless rep grind and didn't feel like putting in 4 hours a night raiding anymore.

I'd consider myself a hardcore/casual player mostly now. Sometimes I'll be able to devote large amounts of playtime, but I really don't want to be locked into the part-time job that is WoW raiding anymore. It sounds like I'll be able to see most of the content at this point because of how Blizzard is doing the raid content (10 and 25 man raid, but different loot), but I'd be curious about some actual feedback from someone who's been playing for a while to get a sense of it.

I'm curious about PvP, as well. i ground to rank 11 in the old PvP system on my druid and love to PvP, but again, I'm just curious how much time is involved to get a character up to be halfway-competitive.

And one more question ... I sold my account when I quit before (nice chunk of change, too. ), so I'm curious what it's like to start from scratch now. It sounds like the leveling is considerably faster in general, but aren't there also some shortcuts if you've got another higher-level character? A friend of mine who also quit may start up with me, so I'm curious how that "Bring a Friend" thing works, and I guess just a general overview of the trip to 70/80 now be a huge help.

Thanks!

There was an XP nerf patch during Burning Crusade, which practically cut 1-60 by 2 days played (assuming it took you 4-5 days to hit 60). There was also a recent XP nerf before the WoTLK expansion for 60-70. I would say that cut 20-30% time required to level in that bracket. Mounts are now at 30, which would help leveling tremendously.

Since PvP stopped and everyone is racing to 80, it is hard to tell atm. Anyone who just hit 80 with some blue dungeon would be considered halfway- competitive or maybe top tier.

The amount of grind for pvp gear will be cut down dramatically with Wintergrasp. Honor farming will be much easier. So I guess Blizzard is gradually shifting more towards the casual side with WoTLK or what all hardcroe players call "retard-friendly".

 

[thegimp03]

Originally posted by: thegimp03
I don't play WoW, but I have a roommate who does (averages 50-60 hours a week). I was laying in bed last night trying to go to sleep when I heard him racing up the stairs and in the door at 12:13 AM. He'd been in line for 2 hours at Gamestop to pick up a copy.

I'm pretty sure he stayed up all night last night playing and I won't see him the next 4 days. He got a late start on the game, but apparently he's one of a group of thirty people who are going to try to take down the top WoW guild.

WTF?

Update:

He apparently played 18 hours straight, from approximately midnight until 6 pm yesterday. He actually came out of his cave at 6:30 pm and was talking about how he was going to get some rest because he had to wake up at 10:30 pm and play all night again.

When I left this morning at 8:15, he was still playing...

What a waste. I have the wireless router in my room, I wonder what he'd do if I accidentally pulled the plug.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: thegimp03

Originally posted by: thegimp03
I don't play WoW, but I have a roommate who does (averages 50-60 hours a week). I was laying in bed last night trying to go to sleep when I heard him racing up the stairs and in the door at 12:13 AM. He'd been in line for 2 hours at Gamestop to pick up a copy.

I'm pretty sure he stayed up all night last night playing and I won't see him the next 4 days. He got a late start on the game, but apparently he's one of a group of thirty people who are going to try to take down the top WoW guild.

WTF?

Update:

He apparently played 18 hours straight, from approximately midnight until 6 pm yesterday. He actually came out of his cave at 6:30 pm and was talking about how he was going to get some rest because he had to wake up at 10:30 pm and play all night again.

When I left this morning at 8:15, he was still playing...

What a waste. I have the wireless router in my room, I wonder what he'd do if I accidentally pulled the plug.

he might kill you,

however find out his char name and what server he plays on for me