AT World of Warcraft Thread (WotLK, where do you play, General BS and all that)

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: invidia

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: invidia
I'm sitting at 78 at the moment, with about 30 bars to 80. I barely played yesterday due to some moving, only got in 2-3 hours or maybe less.

I did a /who 78-80 rogue last night a couple of times. I seem to be one of about 15 rogues in that level range, whereas there were already over 49 80s on my server. The other classes, except a death knight had over 30 or 40 in that level range. It seems that the rogue population is deteriorating or is it just me?

no the rogue pop is fine, your server just happens to have less UBER NREDS who play rogues

you also play on one of the largest raiding realms which is why you have so many at 80 allready

how are those 1000 person queues?

Last night, I first logged in at 6:40pm. I didn't get in until around 8pm. The queues began around 3pm and lasted until about 1am. The peak that I heard was 1500ish.

ouch, my brother said he was in it once around 1200, kinda insane
ive yet to hit more then a 50 person one on Ner/zhul and that was only because i got DCed when i took a shower because of my stupid internet

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: rivan


I'm talking about accounts - real people, not characters - there's (probably) a huge difference. I'd imagine you saw the inside of BT with more than one or two characters.

How does that site track who's been inside a given dungeon, beyond perhaps gear sourcing?

the sites that track that stuff do armory scans, and group by guild and all that, they are pretty acurate

no ive only seen the inside of BT with 1 char, i only had 70, and only 1 60 when 60 was the lvl cap

i really hate lvling alts


and yes pugging of instances really depends on the server, We ran SSC and TK pugs long before they were nerfed before sunwell was released

Would you say you're the norm in that regard, or the exception? In my experience, the people I've known who love to raid usually have more than one (most often two, occasionally 3+) capped characters. Either way, the 5% you mention getting into Sunwell - does it make sense for Blizzard to spend a ton of time making content for 5% of the population?

I'm with you on hating to level alts. I have a couple other low 60s but they're both mostly the product of RAF triple xp and freebie levels.

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: invidia

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: invidia
I'm sitting at 78 at the moment, with about 30 bars to 80. I barely played yesterday due to some moving, only got in 2-3 hours or maybe less.

I did a /who 78-80 rogue last night a couple of times. I seem to be one of about 15 rogues in that level range, whereas there were already over 49 80s on my server. The other classes, except a death knight had over 30 or 40 in that level range. It seems that the rogue population is deteriorating or is it just me?

no the rogue pop is fine, your server just happens to have less UBER NREDS who play rogues

you also play on one of the largest raiding realms which is why you have so many at 80 allready

how are those 1000 person queues?

Last night, I first logged in at 6:40pm. I didn't get in until around 8pm. The queues began around 3pm and lasted until about 1am. The peak that I heard was 1500ish.

ouch, my brother said he was in it once around 1200, kinda insane
ive yet to hit more then a 50 person one on Ner/zhul and that was only because i got DCed when i took a shower because of my stupid internet

My server might not PUG BT, but I also have only seen a queue once, on launch night

 

[Xavier434]

This is just one more reason why duel monitors are so great. You can browse porn while you wait for your queue. :beer:

 

[Vehemence]

Originally posted by: Xavier434
This is just one more reason why duel monitors are so great. You can browse porn while you wait for your queue. :beer:

This is exactly what I need. That or a little netbook next to me. For pr0n and looking up Wowhead stuff, etc all the time.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
what realm xavier?

I saw a few server firsts hit to 80 on sunday...crazy.

I only saw BS and DK on sunday, already had pretty much everything else taken it seems.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: rivan


I'm talking about accounts - real people, not characters - there's (probably) a huge difference. I'd imagine you saw the inside of BT with more than one or two characters.

How does that site track who's been inside a given dungeon, beyond perhaps gear sourcing?

the sites that track that stuff do armory scans, and group by guild and all that, they are pretty acurate

no ive only seen the inside of BT with 1 char, i only had 70, and only 1 60 when 60 was the lvl cap

i really hate lvling alts


and yes pugging of instances really depends on the server, We ran SSC and TK pugs long before they were nerfed before sunwell was released

Would you say you're the norm in that regard, or the exception? In my experience, the people I've known who love to raid usually have more than one (most often two, occasionally 3+) capped characters. Either way, the 5% you mention getting into Sunwell - does it make sense for Blizzard to spend a ton of time making content for 5% of the population?

I'm with you on hating to level alts. I have a couple other low 60s but they're both mostly the product of RAF triple xp and freebie levels.

im definitly the exception on not having any alts, honestly guildies were shocked when i told them i had 0 alts besides a bank toon, hell they were also shocked when i told them my bank toon was not in his own guild with a guild bank, i have no need to store that much shit

as for alts seeing the inside of higher lvl raid instances, those in my guild who have them, some have like 10 it seems would only bring them to 100% farm content when their main was not needed prior to 3.0, which didnt happen very often, out of say 35 raiders maybe 10 had alts that would hop in with any decent frequency

after 3.0 that all changed, many people were planning on playing a diff class and would bring their then alt soon to be new main to raids to get gear to help lvl with

yes catering to the 5-10% of the player base that raids "hardcore" isnt the best of ideas, however making the game into hello kitty island adventure isnt a good idea either. there needs to be both easy and hard content, currently there is only easy content

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: dNor

Originally posted by: Xavier434
This is just one more reason why duel monitors are so great. You can browse porn while you wait for your queue. :beer:

This is exactly what I need. That or a little netbook next to me. For pr0n and looking up Wowhead stuff, etc all the time.

I'm >constantly< tabbing out to Wowhead. Last time I had dual monitors, I recall not liking it for some reason... probably tab time or something, but it's been a very long while. I should try that out again. Do you run WoW in windowed mode on dual monitor setups?

 

[Anubis]

also i shoudl add that 100% of the population does not desire to see said content so they really should just be taken out of the mix, which in turn makes that 5% larger then the number would make it look

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: dNor

Originally posted by: Xavier434
This is just one more reason why duel monitors are so great. You can browse porn while you wait for your queue. :beer:

This is exactly what I need. That or a little netbook next to me. For pr0n and looking up Wowhead stuff, etc all the time.

I'm >constantly< tabbing out to Wowhead. Last time I had dual monitors, I recall not liking it for some reason... probably tab time or something, but it's been a very long while. I should try that out again. Do you run WoW in windowed mode on dual monitor setups?

i run Dual mons, run wow in windowed mode maxed to 1 mon, not tabbing required, just move the mouse back and forth

 

[Chimley]

Skullcrusher is seeing queues of around 700-900 at peaks from what I hear.

If you gotta go do something but don't wanna mess with a queue.. a little tip: Put your self in a city auto-attacking a training dummy


So, things I've learned so far with the expansion:

- Server stability was good, but sometimes noticed BAD skill/loot lag on occasion

- On Skullcrusher.. there was NO TRUCE. World PVP was in full force. I leveled in Howling Fjord first.. and there was this one quest where I had to drop a banner and fight some viking dudes. I swear there musta been 30 horde in that area doing god knows what. Even after I left that zone I still hear Alliance complaining about that zone..

- Leveling Track: Howling Fjord-Borean Tundra-Dragon Blight-Shal. Basin. The Basin is one of, if not the BEST zones period. Highly recommend EVERYONE check that zone out.

- Once i hit 77 and grabbed my cold weather flying, I made circuits around Shal Basin. I've FILLED my bags up on Saronite/Titanium and various motes. I've prospected over 100 stacks of ore. Guess that's a benefit of getting to these places first before the general leveling public gets there

- We had the first L74 mage on Alliance, and he ported us to Dalaran like Thursday evening. Talk about having the whole town to yourself for a bit. It was kind of nice





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[rivan]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: rivan


I'm talking about accounts - real people, not characters - there's (probably) a huge difference. I'd imagine you saw the inside of BT with more than one or two characters.

How does that site track who's been inside a given dungeon, beyond perhaps gear sourcing?

the sites that track that stuff do armory scans, and group by guild and all that, they are pretty acurate

no ive only seen the inside of BT with 1 char, i only had 70, and only 1 60 when 60 was the lvl cap

i really hate lvling alts


and yes pugging of instances really depends on the server, We ran SSC and TK pugs long before they were nerfed before sunwell was released

Would you say you're the norm in that regard, or the exception? In my experience, the people I've known who love to raid usually have more than one (most often two, occasionally 3+) capped characters. Either way, the 5% you mention getting into Sunwell - does it make sense for Blizzard to spend a ton of time making content for 5% of the population?

I'm with you on hating to level alts. I have a couple other low 60s but they're both mostly the product of RAF triple xp and freebie levels.

im definitly the exception on not having any alts, honestly guildies were shocked when i told them i had 0 alts besides a bank toon, hell they were also shocked when i told them my bank toon was not in his own guild with a guild bank, i have no need to store that much shit

as for alts seeing the inside of higher lvl raid instances, those in my guild who have them, some have like 10 it seems would only bring them to 100% farm content when their main was not needed prior to 3.0, which didnt happen very often, out of say 35 raiders maybe 10 had alts that would hop in with any decent frequency

after 3.0 that all changed, many people were planning on playing a diff class and would bring their then alt soon to be new main to raids to get gear to help lvl with

yes catering to the 5-10% of the player base that raids "hardcore" isnt the best of ideas, however making the game into hello kitty island adventure isnt a good idea either. there needs to be both easy and hard content, currently there is only easy content

Well, using your examples of 5% seeing Sunwell, and 1 in 3 of your guildies having raid-worthy alts (pre-3.0), meaning that 5% includes some duplicate people, I'd say 3-4% of the population raids hard core. Those are the people who are QQing about "running out of content" 4 days after the launch (because, incidentally, they SKIPPED most of the actual content - you can't tell me those guys have done all the quests available to them, or even 10% of them).

The thing is, those people probably aren't going to be satisfied long-term. You said it yourself, Sunwell got added halfway through TBC for those people. Blizzard will need to do the same thing for them in Wrath.

I agree the game shouldn't be Hello Kitty, but Blizzard has a wide audience and needs to cater to the largest population first. Mo money.

/shrug.

 

[Anubis]

there reason there was no truce on skullcrasher is because 90% of the alinace there are assholes, real hardcore assholes

Truce on NZ lasted till like sunday

the reason Fjord is more populates by horde is because BT was overpopulated with Ali, seems this way on every server

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: rivan


I'm talking about accounts - real people, not characters - there's (probably) a huge difference. I'd imagine you saw the inside of BT with more than one or two characters.

How does that site track who's been inside a given dungeon, beyond perhaps gear sourcing?

the sites that track that stuff do armory scans, and group by guild and all that, they are pretty acurate

no ive only seen the inside of BT with 1 char, i only had 70, and only 1 60 when 60 was the lvl cap

i really hate lvling alts


and yes pugging of instances really depends on the server, We ran SSC and TK pugs long before they were nerfed before sunwell was released

Would you say you're the norm in that regard, or the exception? In my experience, the people I've known who love to raid usually have more than one (most often two, occasionally 3+) capped characters. Either way, the 5% you mention getting into Sunwell - does it make sense for Blizzard to spend a ton of time making content for 5% of the population?

I'm with you on hating to level alts. I have a couple other low 60s but they're both mostly the product of RAF triple xp and freebie levels.

im definitly the exception on not having any alts, honestly guildies were shocked when i told them i had 0 alts besides a bank toon, hell they were also shocked when i told them my bank toon was not in his own guild with a guild bank, i have no need to store that much shit

as for alts seeing the inside of higher lvl raid instances, those in my guild who have them, some have like 10 it seems would only bring them to 100% farm content when their main was not needed prior to 3.0, which didnt happen very often, out of say 35 raiders maybe 10 had alts that would hop in with any decent frequency

after 3.0 that all changed, many people were planning on playing a diff class and would bring their then alt soon to be new main to raids to get gear to help lvl with

yes catering to the 5-10% of the player base that raids "hardcore" isnt the best of ideas, however making the game into hello kitty island adventure isnt a good idea either. there needs to be both easy and hard content, currently there is only easy content

Well, using your examples of 5% seeing Sunwell, and 1 in 3 of your guildies having raid-worthy alts (pre-3.0), meaning that 5% includes some duplicate people, I'd say 3-4% of the population raids hard core. Those are the people who are QQing about "running out of content" 4 days after the launch (because, incidentally, they SKIPPED most of the actual content - you can't tell me those guys have done all the quests available to them, or even 10% of them).

The thing is, those people probably aren't going to be satisfied long-term. You said it yourself, Sunwell got added halfway through TBC for those people. Blizzard will need to do the same thing for them in Wrath.

I agree the game shouldn't be Hello Kitty, but Blizzard has a wide audience and needs to cater to the largest population first. Mo money.

/shrug.

a lot of them wernt "raid worthy" but we brought them anyway

and the people who are QQing about content arnt people like myself or my guildies, there is a whole nother lvl of people above us whose job it is to play wow, and i say that literally SK Gaming, Nilithum (sp) and a bunch of other EU guilds are actually paied to play wow, sponcered and whatnot. there are also the people that are just uber nerds living in their moms basement whi bitch about everything,

from talking with my guildies and the rest of the raiding populace on NZ, not many at all are QQing about content. yes some would like it to be harder but that really isnt QQing

if the raids liek Icecrown and Ulduar (sp) are this easy, then yes we will start QQing

 

[Chimley]

Originally posted by: Anubis
there reason there was no truce on skullcrasher is because 90% of the alinace there are assholes, real hardcore assholes

Truce on NZ lasted till like sunday

the reason Fjord is more populates by horde is because BT was overpopulated with Ali, seems this way on every server

Heh I find the Alliance on SC to be just plain BAD... dunno bout assholes.. but I think the level of skill gap between the top tier guilds and the general public alliance side is HUGE. I don't see this disparity much between the Horde Guilds. Course.. I'm usually getting ganked by 20 Rage/Invidious just because I'm DE .


OH!! Public Service Annoucement: If you wanna kill the Faction Leaders for the Acheivement and War Bear.. do it NOW. Our guild did it on Saturday DURING primetime and got all 4 down in one hour. Word of warning.. there is a bug with the bears (and other "mailed" acheivement awards). The game will keep mailing you extras.. like nonstop... I had 5 pages of fucking Warbears.. and checking this morning I had 2 more after deleting the others.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Chimley

Originally posted by: Anubis
there reason there was no truce on skullcrasher is because 90% of the alinace there are assholes, real hardcore assholes

Truce on NZ lasted till like sunday

the reason Fjord is more populates by horde is because BT was overpopulated with Ali, seems this way on every server

Heh I find the Alliance on SC to be just plain BAD... dunno bout assholes.. but I think the level of skill gap between the top tier guilds and the general public alliance side is HUGE. I don't see this disparity much between the Horde Guilds. Course.. I'm usually getting ganked by 20 Rage/Invidious just because I'm DE .


OH!! Public Service Annoucement: If you wanna kill the Faction Leaders for the Acheivement and War Bear.. do it NOW. Our guild did it on Saturday DURING primetime and got all 4 down in one hour. Word of warning.. there is a bug with the bears (and other "mailed" acheivement awards). The game will keep mailing you extras.. like nonstop... I had 5 pages of fucking Warbears.. and checking this morning I had 2 more after deleting the others.

yea one of our guildies got the Tabard of The Acheiver (for 25 tabards or whatnot) he said he had 57 in his mailbox

yes when i played there i did notice the skill gap chim, and yes they are assholes even teh bad ones

 

[Tremulant]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Tremulant
xboxist: I've also heard that the game music is good, but I'm usually in TS when I play and can't hear people speaking over music (or vice versa). I also agree on your 3rd point. It seems to have a darker feel to it, which it a nice change from BC, which seemed very whimsical.

The way I see it: BC (with blood elves and draenei) = fancy looking art with bright colors. Lich King (with death knights) = darker art with grittier looking gear/weapons.

Some of the new weapon models are really awesome looking.

you could just boost TS/Vent or lower the wow music in the sound options, its what i did lowered it in options so i can hear it yet still hear people on vent,
hell ive always played with the music and sounds on lol

I have the in-game sounds lowered, but they were a little too loud and people would hear some feedback when I'd talk in ts... so I lowered them some more, but it may have been too much.

I have a headset, but it's uncomfortable, so I don't wear it (and my speakers sound better). Instead I have the headset on my desk between the monitor and keyboard. For a while I would just put the headset around my neck, but that was also uncomfortable.

The only problem now is that my voice is super deep over ts. I think it's cause the mic is on the desk and it might be picking up extra vibrations. I tried with mic boost off, but then people said it was too faint. Maybe mic boost + yelling ?

 

[Jax Omen]

Originally posted by: Anubis
there reason there was no truce on skullcrasher is because 90% of the alinace there are assholes, real hardcore assholes

Truce on NZ lasted till like sunday

the reason Fjord is more populates by horde is because BT was overpopulated with Ali, seems this way on every server

Maybe after Thursday, but on Thursday there were entire alliance guilds running around griefing horde left and right.

After thursday I think I've been ganked once... by a mage whose spells went right through a giant rock next to me... and then stuck around so i could instagib her when I ressed >_>

 

[ViviTheMage]

a lot of reading...but what is the best DK pvp build ?

hmmm

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
a lot of reading...but what is the best DK pvp build ?

hmmm

unholy

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: Anubis
also i shoudl add that 100% of the population does not desire to see said content so they really should just be taken out of the mix, which in turn makes that 5% larger then the number would make it look

Good point. There are actually the "Hello Kitty" players. Probably evens out.

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: rivan

Well, using your examples of 5% seeing Sunwell, and 1 in 3 of your guildies having raid-worthy alts (pre-3.0), meaning that 5% includes some duplicate people, I'd say 3-4% of the population raids hard core. Those are the people who are QQing about "running out of content" 4 days after the launch (because, incidentally, they SKIPPED most of the actual content - you can't tell me those guys have done all the quests available to them, or even 10% of them).

The thing is, those people probably aren't going to be satisfied long-term. You said it yourself, Sunwell got added halfway through TBC for those people. Blizzard will need to do the same thing for them in Wrath.

I agree the game shouldn't be Hello Kitty, but Blizzard has a wide audience and needs to cater to the largest population first. Mo money.

/shrug.

a lot of them wernt "raid worthy" but we brought them anyway

:laugh:

and the people who are QQing about content arnt people like myself or my guildies, there is a whole nother lvl of people above us whose job it is to play wow, and i say that literally SK Gaming, Nilithum (sp) and a bunch of other EU guilds are actually paied to play wow, sponcered and whatnot. there are also the people that are just uber nerds living in their moms basement whi bitch about everything,

from talking with my guildies and the rest of the raiding populace on NZ, not many at all are QQing about content. yes some would like it to be harder but that really isnt QQing

if the raids liek Icecrown and Ulduar (sp) are this easy, then yes we will start QQing

I guess the real sticker for me is that these guys have more or less skipped all the content, then bitched about it not being enough.

If you want more challenge, then there's plenty of ways to do so. Show us your skills by really playing hardcore. Self-enforced permadeath. Simple. Hit 80 without using any blues or better. No potions. No bandages. Single trees only. A minimum of 15 points in each tree. No 51-point skills. Whatever - there's plenty of ways to make a game harder if that's what you're truly after.

Post that you're the first guild to kill Malygos as an all-rogue raid. All rogues with all greens.

The trouble is, none of that will result in more ubar lootz that you can walk around Org with, hoping people will inspect you.

(By "you" I'm talking about the guys who are QQing already)

 

[Anubis]

hehe i always fuck with the people that inspect me and ask really stupid questions
my fave was screwing with people who kept asking where you got the Albino Drake (get 50 mounts), i used to tell people it was at the 4 corners of the map and just make random crap up
i think some of them actually beleived me

then there are the really stupid people, someone asked me where winterspring was yesterday......

 

[OutHouse]

i didnt know there were 50 different mounts in the game.

 

[Tremulant]

I was afk in SW yesterday, at the dock (had to run to the store) and some druid (named Druyd - real original there) inspected me and sent me a tell congratulating me on getting to 74 with the gear that I had.

I'm pretty sure he was taking a shot at me (my gear ain't great, but my character is a month and a half old, so it's not like I even had time to gear up- hell, my nicest piece is the purple hunter chest from Magister's Terrace, and that'll be replaced in a level or two). So.. I'm guessing he thought he was leet with his PVP & kara gear?

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Anubis
hehe i always fuck with the people that inspect me and ask really stupid questions
my fave was screwing with people who kept asking where you got the Albino Drake (get 50 mounts), i used to tell people it was at the 4 corners of the map and just make random crap up
i think some of them actually beleived me

then there are the really stupid people, someone asked me where winterspring was yesterday......

I wish I had a mod which blocked people from being able to inspect me without my permission first. Same with Recount. I want a mod that prevents my info from being recorded there too. I am quite certain neither are possible, but I am tired of the big brother crap.