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Aikouka

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Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Everyone needs to do easy mode first for wowprogress otherwise their place could be disputed, now I know easy modes aren't that much, but world first hard modes wont happen for a few weeks until people get full sets of gear. Even on ptr and a stacked raid group and the shirts on, we couldn't do Hodir's hard mode, 32 million in 3 minutes is a cock block. Let alone Algalon who's going to need at least a weeks worth of Ulduar gear to kill. Iron Council hard mode is extremely hard even with a geared tank... he'll get hit by a 35k hit and 25k hit.

Was the issue with Hodir purely gear-wise or an issue getting everyone the NPC buffs necessary to deal out enough DPS? I look at that fight as being Malygos and Keristrasza's bastard lovechild ( although I've never actually done it before... ).
 

Soccerman06

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Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Everyone needs to do easy mode first for wowprogress otherwise their place could be disputed, now I know easy modes aren't that much, but world first hard modes wont happen for a few weeks until people get full sets of gear. Even on ptr and a stacked raid group and the shirts on, we couldn't do Hodir's hard mode, 32 million in 3 minutes is a cock block. Let alone Algalon who's going to need at least a weeks worth of Ulduar gear to kill. Iron Council hard mode is extremely hard even with a geared tank... he'll get hit by a 35k hit and 25k hit.

Was the issue with Hodir purely gear-wise or an issue getting everyone the NPC buffs necessary to deal out enough DPS? I look at that fight as being Malygos and Keristrasza's bastard lovechild ( although I've never actually done it before... ).

We figured out the buff issue, it was just getting that extra 4-5 mil down. Now things may change with full Ulduar sets but we figured with 4 healers 2 tanks each dps needs roughly 9k dps... casters cant always get that due to moving so melee have to do roughly 11-12k and not pull. Which basically comes down to the rng of the fight, do the melee get haste buff for the fight or does the healers
 

Chimley

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Originally posted by: Baked
From what I heard, even Ulduar hard mode can't match up to sunwell's difficulty. Bunch of pussies at Bliz.

Blizzard has stated that they will never make the fights that difficult again. As one of the few suvivors of clearing Sunwell pre-nerf.. I can kind of agree with them on this point. On the otherhand.. if Hard Modes tend to just be a gearing issues vs. skill.. then I'll be annoyed

 

Soccerman06

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Sunwell wasnt even that hard... Muru was the only hard part for us but thats because we had a tank quit mid learning.
 

lupi

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Thank you for your patience. We are actively testing and verifying the realms to ensure the best possible play experience when they are back online. We currently do not have a definite estimate on when they will be playable, but we will provide another update at approximately 3:00PM PDT.
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
realms being down/slow I mean!

doubt i'll even have time to get on tonight.

I'm a little disappointed that I never got to truly finish my healing set on my Shaman... I wanted to avoid buying the 25 EoV ring, because it really isn't that good for a resto shaman anyway. I also have to buy the cloak, but I believe that one is decent for us. Also never really got a trinket, so I have to buy the badge trinket and make the crappy blue JC trinket .

But oh well... on the PTR I had ~2200 spellpower in my healing set, which isn't too shabby (note that was without flametongue totem).

But I'm going to buy the Shaman Enhancement Totem for 25 EoV, the healing cloak for 25 EoV, the ring for 25 EoV (I have around 170 EoV ). I need to go and get that totem from the Venture Co as well... I still have Healing Rains from Karazhan :laugh:.

EDIT:

Oh and recommendations on the best and most lightweight outfit mod? I know there's ItemRack, Closet Gnome and Outfitter... but for the sake of not having to try all three, anyone have any preference. I know I used to use IR back in the day for switching to my mount stuff (trinket, spurs, glove enchant), but now we have no use for that, so it's really just switching gear when I switch specs.
 

Baked

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I love outfitter. I used itemrack before, but I much prefer outfitter. I don't know how to explain it, you just have to use it. closet gnome must be new, 'cause I only heard about it in wlk.
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
outfitter is really easy.

surprised with dual specs blizz did not create there own version of it ....

They did, but they removed it for unspecified issues. I used it on the PTR and it worked just fine for me.
 

Baked

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3PM, no update! From the looks of things, they won't get the servers up today. Fail!
 

dougp

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I don't really understand why it's so fuckin hard to patch it. Patch works on PTR? Check. Deploy patch to main servers. OS, software, etc. should all be the same from machine to machine for a reason. DAoC never had an outage this long, and when it was extended, they gave out free XP and bonuses.
 

Fingolfin269

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I have a feeling they don't have a 'freeze' period on their patches. They keep making little changes up to the end instead of freezing it out a week or two earlier like they should.
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: Baked
I love outfitter. I used itemrack before, but I much prefer outfitter. I don't know how to explain it, you just have to use it. closet gnome must be new, 'cause I only heard about it in wlk.

I used closet gnome a long long time ago. I'd say BC for sure and maybe classic.
 

lupi

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Thank you for your patience. We are actively testing and verifying the realms to ensure the best possible play experience when they are back online. We currently do not have a definite estimate on when they will be playable, but we will provide another update at approximately 4:00PM PDT.
 

lupi

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We thank you for your patience. We are currently in the final stages of maintenance and we expect all realms to be playable by approximately 5:00PM PDT.
 

Baked

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5PM! OMG, finally. 1st order of business, fish for the turtle mount.

Update: Nope, they fucked it up again. Servers will not be up by 5PM.
 

dougp

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At this point they need to roll back and figure this shit out - it's starting to interfere with players in CST & EST.
 

Baked

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Originally posted by: dougp
At this point they need to roll back and figure this shit out - it's starting to interfere with players in CST & EST.

Our guild raids from midnight to 4AM, EST. Blizzard has 4 more hours to fix this mess.

Originally posted by: lupi
at this point there are about a dozen realms up all queued.

Ah yes, I just login to the server selection menu and see about 13 up, but all locked.
 

Anubis

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im not really supprized by this. it happens every single time they release a major patch

hell the 2.0 patch made servers unplayable for like 3 days and it deleted peoples gear
 

dougp

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Queue for my server was just @ 6,000 and has dropped to 0 ... but stuck at retrieving character list.
 
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