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Soccerman06

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Soccerman06
I'm extremely disappointed with this expansion, my guild has already cleared 25 man Naxx and Sartharion, would of done Malygos but it just got too late to do her tonight. Iccy Im kinda scared how easy this is, I meen 5-6 days after wotlk was released we more or less completely cleared everything. The only thing left to do is Malygos and she'll be dead tomorrow.

The instances aren't even a challenge, half of them are just tank and spanks with a gimick ability you can live through without trying, the original was much more fun because it was actually challenging.

humm thats interesting. what level were the people in the raids and other instances?

never mind i just looked at your toon on wow armory.

damn lvl 80, herb is maxed, tailoring is 408. all purple gear, 1400+ spell bonus damage, so what are you going to do now? solo Kara?

lol i wish i could solo kara, id make bank selling everything

Soccerman besides raid drops did you replace anything at 80? we had very similar gear going into Wrath (we both locks) and i have not replaced anything except for a wand because wands hated my guild and i was using the badge one still and swaped in a green with +hit

also Tailoring is a fucking PITA to level, you need something liek 7000 frostweave cloth to get it from 375-450. im at ~400 and UGH

1 guildie is in the 420s someplace he made his epic flying carpet

Yeah I already have 2 piece t7.5 along with some badge gear, getting more soon I hope. I also plan on getting quite a few upgrades in Naxx god forbid something other than paladin healing shit dropping this week. Seriously today we had 5 paladin hats drop... ugh oh well our paladins are geared now so hopefully they wont get much. But non raid stuff is basically the trinket and badge OH, and maybe a piece or 2 from heroics and that is it. You can gem your stuff to be much better than the blues/purples out there. Gearing is a joke in Naxx, if it drops its either an obvious upgrade or not for us. But I will tell you this Anubis, get at least enough spirit to have 3k lifetaps without our bonus, its a freakin lifesaver on fights where you don't have a lot of chances to restore mana. My goal is to try and get a 15k lifetap, but that would require something like 4500 spirit... not possible at this time.

I dont see myself leveling tailoring much at this time because whats the point? mats are too expensive, I could buy everything to get server first tailor, but I have no motivation at all... There is no incentive to do tailoring at this time. Only thing worth getting is the leg enchants for myself (although the selling ones will be a nice profit when people actually want them) and the bags which I have enough skill for. One of my guildies is 440ish though, so its not like its impossible. Id imagine if you want to upgrade your chest you could get the tailoring chest, the one with int/spr and dmg/haste (cant recall the name). Its a very nice chest but not worth it if your raiding 25s weekly and can get equal from bosses.

Id imagine by the time Im t8-9 I could be farming Kara solo, or maybe with a healer. Hell I was soloing the 5 person elites lvling so I don't see why I cant solo kara bosses who don't hit as hard. On this note, me and another warlock friend were dicking around in kara wotlk and we 2 manned the Morose and Maiden quite easily.

And to all those who think that Naxx as suppose to be easy and stuff, yeah it is... too easy if you ask me. Yes it will be tough for the first few tries you do the place if you never went to Naxx before but for people like me its a freakin joke and almost an insult to the hardcore. You should not clear the entire game 4 days after the fucking thing comes out, how is that even fair. They could have easily tweaked the 25 man to be harder, like making aoe do more damage so you have to avoid it to survive instead of laughing and taking it, make me regret standing on the wrong charged side and die instantly instead of taking a small amount of damage until I move. If they wanted to make it nice and good for everyone, they should have made 10 man quite easy and like it is now, and have 25 man actually be hard like it use to be and then scale it down to its current state when s5 starts. Seriously have patchwork 2 shot a tank and his ot like he use to, not this 6-7 hit crap. Make me regret aoeing on Harvester, not encourage it. It should be a bad thing for a spore to live too long on Lothab, not let it sit there for 15 seconds then pop it, and if the gorup misses the buff a few times, its a wipe to enrage. All I can say is Blizzard better not make Arthas a pushover like Naxx is otherwise Ill be a sad panda.

 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Soccerman06
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yea the reports from those in naxx say that its pretty much all paly loot for them as well
tho that staff did drop off Lotheb yesterday for someone, the caster one

i had a feeling that gear wise i was not gonna replace anything till raids, o well i have seen some nice random items trinkets and rings from heroics and suchi guess thats what happens when you are ahread of the curve.

and yes i really enjoy soloing the 3-5 man group quests, im actually having a lot of fun lvling and playing aff again

my i inquire as to what spec you are raiding as?


also a lil off topic but on the subject of stupid easy raids. I made this video for someone else, it is a Post 3.0 Muru kill the vid is sped up a lil bit but it was almost that fast in reality. under 2 min. im also gonna post the pre 3.0 video to just give those that do not know an idea of how nerfed things got


Pre 3.0 Muru - This was a kill back in July sometime, our guild first, not the cleanest, the next week no one died...
http://files.filefront.com/Spi...1108020;/fileinfo.html

This is Muru after the 3.0 patch, last raid on Tues before Wrath
http://files.filefront.com/lom...2394678;/fileinfo.html
 

lupi

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Think I'm going to need to make a some comp upgrade with the latest patches. During the week I normally play more on my bedroom computer than the one in the den and the little 3 year olf comp is finally starting to show slowdowns with the latest changes to the game graphics. CPU only shows 40% use but memory is at 90% (only a 2gig xp). Currently leaning towards getting a new vid card for my main one and sliding the 8800gt to this one (it runs at 1680WS rez so that should alleviate a decent bit of the new slowdowns).
 

rivan

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Soccerman06
SNIP

yea the reports from those in naxx say that its pretty much all paly loot for them as well
tho that staff did drop off Lotheb yesterday for someone, the caster one

i had a feeling that gear wise i was not gonna replace anything till raids, o well i have seen some nice random items trinkets and rings from heroics and suchi guess thats what happens when you are ahread of the curve.

and yes i really enjoy soloing the 3-5 man group quests, im actually having a lot of fun lvling and playing aff again

my i inquire as to what spec you are raiding as?


also a lil off topic but on the subject of stupid easy raids. I made this video for someone else, it is a Post 3.0 Muru kill the vid is sped up a lil bit but it was almost that fast in reality. under 2 min. im also gonna post the pre 3.0 video to just give those that do not know an idea of how nerfed things got


Pre 3.0 Muru - This was a kill back in July sometime, our guild first, not the cleanest, the next week no one died...
http://files.filefront.com/Spi...1108020;/fileinfo.html

This is Muru after the 3.0 patch, last raid on Tues before Wrath
http://files.filefront.com/lom...2394678;/fileinfo.html

I'm a little up in the air about end game raids being "too easy". I feel for you guys who do want a higher level of challenge, but I can't help but be a little excited at the prospect of being able to complete this stuff before the next xpack.

I will give you this - that M'uru fight looks night and day easier. If that's the new bar I can see why you'd be frustrated.

That's one hell of a busy interface you've got there

Originally posted by: lupi
Think I'm going to need to make a some comp upgrade with the latest patches. During the week I normally play more on my bedroom computer than the one in the den and the little 3 year olf comp is finally starting to show slowdowns with the latest changes to the game graphics. CPU only shows 40% use but memory is at 90% (only a 2gig xp). Currently leaning towards getting a new vid card for my main one and sliding the 8800gt to this one (it runs at 1680WS rez so that should alleviate a decent bit of the new slowdowns).

I'm running 1680 WS at home and the only slider I've got turned down at all is the shadows (and that's only because I heard it had problems and didn't see THAT much candy with it turned up). I'm on what's very much a middle-of-the road machine: e6400, 2 gig, 3870. I almost never notice any stutter, even in the expansion. I *love* what they did to draw distances on large critters - I can see storm giants from almost any distance, if I have LOS.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: lupi
Think I'm going to need to make a some comp upgrade with the latest patches. During the week I normally play more on my bedroom computer than the one in the den and the little 3 year olf comp is finally starting to show slowdowns with the latest changes to the game graphics. CPU only shows 40% use but memory is at 90% (only a 2gig xp). Currently leaning towards getting a new vid card for my main one and sliding the 8800gt to this one (it runs at 1680WS rez so that should alleviate a decent bit of the new slowdowns).

Honestly, I recommend that you upgrade your memory first and see what happens. The reason why I say that is because I have compared rigs to mine and the main reason that I seem to get low FPS in certain regions of Northrend particularly as opposed to other people's rigs is WoW's intense usage of memory. This is a good and a bad thing of course. Good because memory is really cheap right now and it is fast and bad because well....I run 2 gigs of memory plus 1 gig for Vista's Readyboost and I am still choking. I am also showing pretty much maxed out memory usage while playing too while my CPU is not maxing out.

What I recommend is upgrading your rig to 4 gigs and make sure the memory is as fast as your mobo can handle. I also recommend sticking with either Corsair or Kingston. This will mean that you need to upgrade to a 64 bit OS though due to the 2 gig barrier in a 32 bit OS and in this case I would suggest Vista believe it or not. Vista fails for many reasons, but when it comes to managing memory usage it is really good. If not then just go with XP 64.

I plan to perform the upgrade from 2 gig to 4 gig as well as going from Vista 32 to Vista 64 this weekend so I can also give you some feed back on how much it helps. I am currently using an 8800gt 512mb btw.
 

Anubis

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what kind of FPS are you guys who are having issues getting? im running an OCed E8400 @ 4.0 GHz 4 gigs of ram, Vista 64 and a 8800GT, settings are still maxed in Wrath just like they were in TBC and the only time im below 50 FPS is when im in a raid
 

Malladine

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Originally posted by: Xavier434

What I recommend is upgrading your rig to 4 gigs and make sure the memory is as fast as your mobo can handle. I also recommend sticking with either Corsair or Kingston. This will mean that you need to upgrade to a 64 bit OS though due to the 2 gig barrier in a 32 bit OS and in this case I would suggest Vista believe it or not. Vista fails for many reasons, but when it comes to managing memory usage it is really good. If not then just go with XP 64.

32 bit is limited to 4gb not 2 so he'll be all set going to 4gb with XP. Corsair and Kingston are fine, as are GSkill. And lupi, yeah, i can see video cards slower than the 8800gt struggling a bit running 1680 in northrend with settings turned up.

oh, and +1 vote for Vista, i run 64 bit now and it's awesome.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Malladine
Originally posted by: Xavier434

What I recommend is upgrading your rig to 4 gigs and make sure the memory is as fast as your mobo can handle. I also recommend sticking with either Corsair or Kingston. This will mean that you need to upgrade to a 64 bit OS though due to the 2 gig barrier in a 32 bit OS and in this case I would suggest Vista believe it or not. Vista fails for many reasons, but when it comes to managing memory usage it is really good. If not then just go with XP 64.

32 bit is limited to 4gb not 2 so he'll be all set going to 4gb with XP. Corsair and Kingston are fine, as are GSkill. And lupi, yeah, i can see video cards slower than the 8800gt struggling a bit running 1680 in northrend with settings turned up.

oh, and +1 vote for Vista, i run 64 bit now and it's awesome.

no a 32 bit OS will only see at most 3 gigs and that is only with that 3gig switch enabled
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: Anubis
what kind of FPS are you guys who are having issues getting? im running an OCed E8400 @ 4.0 GHz 4 gigs of ram, Vista 64 and a 8800GT, settings are still maxed in Wrath just like they were in TBC and the only time im below 50 FPS is when im in a raid

My main comp is similar to that except with a e6600 and running a 24 inch panel. Everthing is at max except shadows and it easily stays 50+.

On my secondary with just a pent 4 and. a 7900gs I am seeing fps drops on the new continent and what's worse is a new occurence of frequent crashes when alt tabbing out. Don't really want to do any cpu upgrading yet with the new architecture seriees just released, but I figure going from the 7900 to 8800 should move some of the gpu bottleneck back onto the vid card from the cpu to remdedy these crashes.
 

Anubis

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your 24 running 1920*1200?


also alt+tabbing is an issue by itself, wow for some reason just does not like it. i know people with much better comps then mind in terms of CPU and Vid card who crash when tabbing
windowed mode FTW


i had wow hard crash yesterday when i turned in the quest for the Wratgate acheivement, the one that starts that cinamatic. Horde only IIRC
 

Malladine

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Malladine
Originally posted by: Xavier434

What I recommend is upgrading your rig to 4 gigs and make sure the memory is as fast as your mobo can handle. I also recommend sticking with either Corsair or Kingston. This will mean that you need to upgrade to a 64 bit OS though due to the 2 gig barrier in a 32 bit OS and in this case I would suggest Vista believe it or not. Vista fails for many reasons, but when it comes to managing memory usage it is really good. If not then just go with XP 64.

32 bit is limited to 4gb not 2 so he'll be all set going to 4gb with XP. Corsair and Kingston are fine, as are GSkill. And lupi, yeah, i can see video cards slower than the 8800gt struggling a bit running 1680 in northrend with settings turned up.

oh, and +1 vote for Vista, i run 64 bit now and it's awesome.

no a 32 bit OS will only see at most 3 gigs and that is only with that 3gig switch enabled

true, you'll only see 3-3.25, but technically it's still limited to 4gb, not 2. The bios just grabs the rest.
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Malladine
Originally posted by: Xavier434

What I recommend is upgrading your rig to 4 gigs and make sure the memory is as fast as your mobo can handle. I also recommend sticking with either Corsair or Kingston. This will mean that you need to upgrade to a 64 bit OS though due to the 2 gig barrier in a 32 bit OS and in this case I would suggest Vista believe it or not. Vista fails for many reasons, but when it comes to managing memory usage it is really good. If not then just go with XP 64.

32 bit is limited to 4gb not 2 so he'll be all set going to 4gb with XP. Corsair and Kingston are fine, as are GSkill. And lupi, yeah, i can see video cards slower than the 8800gt struggling a bit running 1680 in northrend with settings turned up.

oh, and +1 vote for Vista, i run 64 bit now and it's awesome.

no a 32 bit OS will only see at most 3 gigs and that is only with that 3gig switch enabled

What 3gb switch? I bought my PC from Dell outlet so hopefully they already turned it on for me... if not, free upgrade time tonight!

 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: Malladine
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Malladine
Originally posted by: Xavier434

What I recommend is upgrading your rig to 4 gigs and make sure the memory is as fast as your mobo can handle. I also recommend sticking with either Corsair or Kingston. This will mean that you need to upgrade to a 64 bit OS though due to the 2 gig barrier in a 32 bit OS and in this case I would suggest Vista believe it or not. Vista fails for many reasons, but when it comes to managing memory usage it is really good. If not then just go with XP 64.

32 bit is limited to 4gb not 2 so he'll be all set going to 4gb with XP. Corsair and Kingston are fine, as are GSkill. And lupi, yeah, i can see video cards slower than the 8800gt struggling a bit running 1680 in northrend with settings turned up.

oh, and +1 vote for Vista, i run 64 bit now and it's awesome.

no a 32 bit OS will only see at most 3 gigs and that is only with that 3gig switch enabled

true, you'll only see 3-3.25, but technically it's still limited to 4gb, not 2. The bios just grabs the rest.

Let me clarify a bit. First of all, both of you are correct and technically I am correct too in some sense although I did word my original post inaccurately. It deals with both the limitations of 32bit vs 64bit OS's as well as the specific OS itself and the SP.

For example, you are looking at pretty much a max total usage of 3-3.25gb when running XP 32bit. However, that does not mean that XP 32 bit will permit 3-3.25gb for a single application or even 2.75gb for that matter. In most cases, the actual performance increases from upgrading RAM in XP stops at about 2 gigs. There are rare instances where it exceeds that, but for the most part the way that memory allocation works in XP 32 will not allow it. In fact, the SP that you are running in XP also effects how much is used which catches a lot of people by surprise.

This is why Vista is awesome....when working as intended lol. Vista's memory allocation is incredible and if you are running Vista 64 then you are golden. Vista makes use of more memory than any other version of Windows has ever dreamed about and that is also why upgrading to that OS with the combination of adding more fast memory will result in greater gaming performance increases than ever seen before in previous versions of Windows.

This is also why I have high hopes for Windows 7. Vista, while containing lots of great things that do work, is not working completely as intended which is a shame. I look forward to upgrading from Vista ME to Vista XP.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Malladine
Originally posted by: Xavier434

What I recommend is upgrading your rig to 4 gigs and make sure the memory is as fast as your mobo can handle. I also recommend sticking with either Corsair or Kingston. This will mean that you need to upgrade to a 64 bit OS though due to the 2 gig barrier in a 32 bit OS and in this case I would suggest Vista believe it or not. Vista fails for many reasons, but when it comes to managing memory usage it is really good. If not then just go with XP 64.

32 bit is limited to 4gb not 2 so he'll be all set going to 4gb with XP. Corsair and Kingston are fine, as are GSkill. And lupi, yeah, i can see video cards slower than the 8800gt struggling a bit running 1680 in northrend with settings turned up.

oh, and +1 vote for Vista, i run 64 bit now and it's awesome.

no a 32 bit OS will only see at most 3 gigs and that is only with that 3gig switch enabled

What 3gb switch? I bought my PC from Dell outlet so hopefully they already turned it on for me... if not, free upgrade time tonight!

its some command line thing you have to do

google it or ask in the OS forums

 

slag

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Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Soccerman06
I'm extremely disappointed with this expansion, my guild has already cleared 25 man Naxx and Sartharion, would of done Malygos but it just got too late to do her tonight. Iccy Im kinda scared how easy this is, I meen 5-6 days after wotlk was released we more or less completely cleared everything. The only thing left to do is Malygos and she'll be dead tomorrow.

The instances aren't even a challenge, half of them are just tank and spanks with a gimick ability you can live through without trying, the original was much more fun because it was actually challenging.

humm thats interesting. what level were the people in the raids and other instances?

never mind i just looked at your toon on wow armory.

damn lvl 80, herb is maxed, tailoring is 408. all purple gear, 1400+ spell bonus damage, so what are you going to do now? solo Kara?

Oh were all 80 and we brought 25, honestly could of done a lot of it with less than 20, were not even close to enrage timers. Were only top like 30 in the world, could have been higher but we slacked off on lvling a tad and were messing around. Personally I was 80 on sat and if we had about 20 people sat we woulda been US 1/2 and 10 in world on everything. Oh well, nothing hard means anything can do it with dedicated people lvling fast.

With all due respect, you are not who this game is geared towards. Hardcore raiders who have honed their skills and have T5-T6, S3-4 gear will not receive any real gear upgrades until Naxx, and even then, good luck if you find something that drops thats better. The xpac is geared towards new players with crap gear who levelled from 1-70 without running instances.

I came in with a level 70 druid in kara/T4-5/S2 gear and have gotten just a couple sideways-barely upgrades so far and I'm level 75. The whole game is just much easier than TBC was and whereas level 72 greens quickly replaced BWL/Naxx epics when TBC came out, Blizz said they wanted it to be much less of a gear upgrade with WoTLK than TBC was.

I've stayed home a few days to play, explored quite a bit, done a ton of quests, and I'm level 75. Just a suggestion here, but you blew your wad too early instead of taking your time to visit everywhere and now youre in the "what's next" category. Should have taken more time to level up and enjoy just running around looking at stuff. I know, its not everyones cup of tea, but really, whats the big race to 80? Who cares who gets there first or whatever. I'm having fun grouping up, helping guildies, doing enchants, exploring areas etc. Different strokes for different folks.

 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: slag
Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Soccerman06
I'm extremely disappointed with this expansion, my guild has already cleared 25 man Naxx and Sartharion, would of done Malygos but it just got too late to do her tonight. Iccy Im kinda scared how easy this is, I meen 5-6 days after wotlk was released we more or less completely cleared everything. The only thing left to do is Malygos and she'll be dead tomorrow.

The instances aren't even a challenge, half of them are just tank and spanks with a gimick ability you can live through without trying, the original was much more fun because it was actually challenging.

humm thats interesting. what level were the people in the raids and other instances?

never mind i just looked at your toon on wow armory.

damn lvl 80, herb is maxed, tailoring is 408. all purple gear, 1400+ spell bonus damage, so what are you going to do now? solo Kara?

Oh were all 80 and we brought 25, honestly could of done a lot of it with less than 20, were not even close to enrage timers. Were only top like 30 in the world, could have been higher but we slacked off on lvling a tad and were messing around. Personally I was 80 on sat and if we had about 20 people sat we woulda been US 1/2 and 10 in world on everything. Oh well, nothing hard means anything can do it with dedicated people lvling fast.

With all due respect, you are not who this game is geared towards. Hardcore raiders who have honed their skills and have T5-T6, S3-4 gear will not receive any real gear upgrades until Naxx, and even then, good luck if you find something that drops thats better. The xpac is geared towards new players with crap gear who levelled from 1-70 without running instances.

I came in with a level 70 druid in kara/T4-5/S2 gear and have gotten just a couple sideways-barely upgrades so far and I'm level 75. The whole game is just much easier than TBC was and whereas level 72 greens quickly replaced BWL/Naxx epics when TBC came out, Blizz said they wanted it to be much less of a gear upgrade with WoTLK than TBC was.

I've stayed home a few days to play, explored quite a bit, done a ton of quests, and I'm level 75. Just a suggestion here, but you blew your wad too early instead of taking your time to visit everywhere and now youre in the "what's next" category. Should have taken more time to level up and enjoy just running around looking at stuff. I know, its not everyones cup of tea, but really, whats the big race to 80? Who cares who gets there first or whatever. I'm having fun grouping up, helping guildies, doing enchants, exploring areas etc. Different strokes for different folks.

im just gonna dissagree with what i bolded, most naxx stuff lasted untill lvl 70 5 mans, if not Kara, i used T3 into Kara, end boss Naxx weps = lvl 70 Blues

wrath and TBC are really similar in their gear tracks (if you ignore the stam increase from 60-61), look at the Ring of Blood in Negrand and the Pit of Anguish (i think thats what it is called) in Zul'Drak, basicially the same event, 1 is lvl 65 and 1 is lvl 75. The rewards from this are the first ones available that are about = to Sunwell items, The caster staff for example is just like the staff from Felmyst without sockets and it has haste and not Crit, this is very similar to Ring of blood whoes rewards were about = to AQ/ or naxx trash weps

the only real difference is that once you reach the cap there is less to do, when we hit 70, there were more grinds/attunements/quest chains that needed to be done to further progression. with those gone and people LOL zerging 25 mans it feels like there is much less
 

slag

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Originally posted by: Anubis
[im just gonna dissagree with what i bolded, most naxx stuff lasted untill lvl 70 5 mans, if not Kara, i used T3 into Kara, end boss Naxx weps = lvl 70 Blues

wrath and TBC are really similar in their gear tracks (if you ignore the stam increase from 60-61), look at the Ring of Blood in Negrand and the Pit of Anguish (i think thats what it is called) in Zul'Drak, basicially the same event, 1 is lvl 65 and 1 is lvl 75. The rewards from this are the first ones available that are about = to Sunwell items, The caster staff for example is just like the staff from Felmyst without sockets and it has haste and not Crit, this is very similar to Ring of blood whoes rewards were about = to AQ/ or naxx trash weps

the only real difference is that once you reach the cap there is less to do, when we hit 70, there were more grinds/attunements/quest chains that needed to be done to further progression. with those gone and people LOL zerging 25 mans it feels like there is much less

Fair enough. I came into TBC with Tier 1-2 epics from MC and BWL, but had not run aq40 or Nax.

First gear upgrade I got was a chestpiece while I was still level 60 or had just dinged 61 and it was huge.. I had a chestpiece with like 8-12 agility on it and this new one had 22 iirc. I also agree with you that the stam buffs were huge, but all stat bonuses on weapons and armor were much much greater than was on anything in the old world starting at low levels.

Not so much with WOTLK though.

I agree the content does not seem to be as much but wait till they release a patch or two and add in a bunch of stuff. Personally, I dont want to grind rep just to grind rep or do an attunement just to say I'm attuned. These things should come with normal questing imho.
 

rh71

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having played a DK to just the beginning of Hellfire, can someone tell me why they're not very similar to paladins? Well, other than pallys being able to strictly heal of course.
 

Tremulant

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I haven't touched a DK yet. Not that interested and I'd rather get my hunter up before messing with another character.
 

OutHouse

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ok, i gotta try this, where is this Drakaru dude?

http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=12669





Once you get this quest, complete the first half of the requirements. It will be a quest from Drakaru to control some zombies and harvest 7 shards. You can complete that quest, turn it in (recieve 20950xp), then ABANDON the "So far, So Bad" quest. Now, call down Stefan Vadu via your item to get a fresh "So far, So Bad" quest. This will allow you to do the shard harvesting quest over again.

I did this three times on a PvP server, each one took me less than 5 minutes. They respawn quickly.


1) Accept "So far, So bad"
2) Go talk to Drakaru and get his shard farming quest
3) Complete Drakaru quest for 21k XP
4) ABANDON "So far, So bad"
5) Re summon Stefan
6) Rinse, repeat
 

invidia

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Originally posted by: Citrix
ok, i gotta try this, where is this Drakaru dude?

http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=12669





Once you get this quest, complete the first half of the requirements. It will be a quest from Drakaru to control some zombies and harvest 7 shards. You can complete that quest, turn it in (recieve 20950xp), then ABANDON the "So far, So Bad" quest. Now, call down Stefan Vadu via your item to get a fresh "So far, So Bad" quest. This will allow you to do the shard harvesting quest over again.

I did this three times on a PvP server, each one took me less than 5 minutes. They respawn quickly.


1) Accept "So far, So bad"
2) Go talk to Drakaru and get his shard farming quest
3) Complete Drakaru quest for 21k XP
4) ABANDON "So far, So bad"
5) Re summon Stefan
6) Rinse, repeat

This is part of a long chain of quests that begins in Grizzly Hills. Just Wowhead or WowDB Drakaru in Grizzly Hills, do his chain of quests (about 5-7) which then leads to DrakThalon Keep which you have to kill the last boss and then activate his braizer. Then go to Zul'Drak to Stefan's camp, start that chain of quest which involves you doing quests for Drakuru in Voltarius. Keep doing that until you hit to the "So far, So Bad" part.
 

Foxery

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Sure, if you're looking to get banned. Enjoy!

I transferred from a high pop realm to a low pop one, and damn, was it creepy going 20-30 minutes at a time without seeing another player on openning weekend. Much better now that the sleeping & eating crowd has caught up.


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Foxery, tauren druid raider on Auchindoun (PVP)
formerly of Eonar (PvE)
 

OutHouse

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ugg im a long way from doing that, im only half way to 71 for my priest. ive been leveling my DK, got him to 62 last night.
 
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