AT World of Warcraft Thread (WotLK, where do you play, General BS and all that)

[lupi]

Anyone see a combined list of undocumented stuff/bugs? I saw about the quest logs but people said those came back later. Also something about draeni getting mustaches. Pallies having an aura stuck on even though they select another (tertiary report that hunters have similar event).


Also wasn't there mention of some interface option where you have to select a confirmation box before talent points actually spent? I looked through mine and didn't find it.


And does anyone any timezone knowledge of these, a couple free transfers just opened and these are destinations from bronzebeard.


Nesingwary Garrosh Winterhoof

 

[lupi]

Also forgot, apparently if you are a mana intensive class and playing solo or in a group without a regen buff, it's a bitch right now.

 

[ViviTheMage]

stay out of dala ^_^.

got on for a few minutes, laggy as heck. Then I went to STW, wasn't so bad...logged off though, too many people just complaining.

 

[Beev]

Our server was up pretty late too so we only did FL last night. Was a fun fight. Then we went and did the new Wintergrasp boss and I got my tier 8.5 gloves.

 

[schmedy]

Right after they came up all of Northrend crashed for about a hour, came back up and there was about 15sec lag, real nice wait time to talk to a NPC or something. This HFB nerf is horrible, I am kind of lurking to see what to do for a build for my rogue.

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: schmedy
Right after they came up all of Northrend crashed for about a hour, came back up and there was about 15sec lag, real nice wait time to talk to a NPC or something. This HFB nerf is horrible, I am kind of lurking to see what to do for a build for my rogue.

It's not a nerf, the new HfB makes it much easier to keep up, costs less energy, allowing you to Mutilate/Envenom more and helps tighten up your cycles. It's only a slight nerf on AoE trash where you have to waste time and CP's putting up a bleed and popping it before Fan of Knives.

 

[DirthNader]

Got Flame Leviathan down quickly, but only made four or five attempts on Razorscale before we called it (past usual raid time).

Any advice? We came close to one shotting her (asssuming getting to 50% = win) by just zerging / AoE'ing down the adds, but the healers complained about having to heal through the chain lightning from the adds. We lost too much dps constantly shifting to keep distance from each other after flame bombs and didn't get close again.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Chimley
I give you props for getting through as many bosses as you did.

But honestly.. a lot of us didn't have a fair shot. Our server's Ulduar froze after Flame Levi and never recovered the whole night. A lot of good guilds were locked out of even trying these bosses at all. You can't go around proclaiming World Firsts without mentioning that .

Shit happens tho

yep a lot of people on NZ were stuck inside vault and simply coudl not get out

Our Server/Ulduar was fine we just choose to not raid (25) on patch days, we did a few 10s and judgeing for the bugs there not raiding 25s was a good idea

 

[Jax Omen]

Ulduar: Flame Leviathan's trash was actually fun. Boss himself was joke difficulty (we got him on the second try with nobody knowing what they were doing in advance).

Ignis was bugged last night, the golem things didn't turn brittle when kited into the water AFTER being turned molten, they simply lost the debuffs. Plus, the good old charge bug that's been around since Vanilla is still alive and well (he occasionally melees his charge target, resulting in an instagib on anyone who gets charged and has this bug happen) Needless to say, we gave up on him.

We tried Razorscale but the instance lag was too much, we couldn't even heal/tank the mobs. Casts would go off 3-5 seconds after they were started.

Eventually we said "screw it" and went to do the new Vault of Archavon boss.

Emalon the Storm Watcher is NOT a pug-friendly fight. He's basically Loken (complete with the lightning nova for 20k damage) except he has 4 adds which need to be offtanked AND every 40 seconds or so he enrages one of them, and that add must be killed within 10 seconds or your raid will wipe. We eventually beat him. Since it's part of the same instance, we went and killed Loot Pinata Archavon while we were there.

Attempting Ulduar again tonight, hopefully it'll be less buggy/laggy and we'll actually be able to progress. At least, reading mmo champion, the ignis bug has been hotfixed (the construct one, the charge bug hasn't, of course).

I wound up getting the first piece of tier 8 armor in the guild (Enhancement Conqueror's legs dropped off Emalon)!



ZOMG ENHANCEMENT HAS AN OFFHAND WEAPON WE CAN USE!!!! http://static.mmo-champion.com...9/april/VulmirMace.jpg

Hopefully it's not the only one, because with my luck this thing will never ever drop, just like Angry Dread never did.

 

[Aikouka]

A lot of my add-ons are being very erroneous . I may have to check to see if Curse is just out of date.

Originally posted by: Anubis
yep a lot of people on NZ were stuck inside vault and simply coudl not get out

Our Server/Ulduar was fine we just choose to not raid (25) on patch days, we did a few 10s and judgeing for the bugs there not raiding 25s was a good idea

Yeah, we heard reports of people being stuck in vault, so we decided not to do it and we had our GM get stuck in Ulduar . Alleria was awfully bad last night when it came to being able to raid.

But of course that didn't stop people from "DPS LFG Ulduar!" :laugh:

 

[lupi]

Wooohooo, can finally transfer some toons off of bronzebeard.

Many years ago I missed doing the transfer to ET (which I believe is EDT) cause I wasn't raiding yet and had no problem getting any 5 mans. Of the three realms opened for free transfers off, Garrosh is an EDT one so I'll be moving the 10 boys there away.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: ModerateRepZero
There's basically 2 major changes to resto healing....

1) Nourish > Regrowth. RG crit chance was cut in half and Nourish's was boosted. That plus the Nourish glyph makes Nourish a better spam heal.

2) You can no longer *continually* roll LB without it costing you mana. If you cast 3 or less LB on a single target, in theory you'll get your mana back. It's casting 4+ to refresh LB duration which will be costing you mana.

But the thing is... what's our role? We can't be quick raid healers anymore because of Nourish requiring HoTs to already be on the target. Why even raid heal? Just bring a shaman and have them chain heal and it will be more effective than us. I've already hated Wild Growth for the longest time... it's a poor man's Circle of Healing. Well, I mostly hated it in Loatheb .

The one fight I'm trying to get my hands around now is Patchwerk. As much as Naxx isn't the big dog anymore, that fight used to require me to HoT up all three tanks and keep them up... now what do I do? Am I reduced to simply being a single tank healer where I keep rejuv and regrowth up and just nourish spam?

Also, the change to LB simply makes it really weird... we're essentially given a "reverse Regrowth" as in we apply a HoT and it has a direct heal at the end, which isn't necessarily when we want it >_<.

EDIT:

I ended up coming up with something like this:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent...Zf0fuiuxVuVhsVo:LAq0zm

But I'm not sure where to put the last three points. Are people considering Revitalize worthwhile? It might be decent in conjunction with the Wild Growth glyph. There's also keeping Nature's Grace even though it was changed from a flat .5s to 20% (Blizzard using flat values like that ).

 

[SupaDupaPan]

It's really too bad they rushed the patch the way they did. Had they taken a few more weeks to fix things up and perfect the issues, the player base wouldn't be forced to deal with them the way they currently are. Plus, then I'd have my damn protodrake. Only 2 achievements away! And I was already saved to Maly :'(

 

[dougp]

Originally posted by: lupi
Wooohooo, can finally transfer some toons off of bronzebeard.

Many years ago I missed doing the transfer to ET (which I believe is EDT) cause I wasn't raiding yet and had no problem getting any 5 mans. Of the three realms opened for free transfers off, Garrosh is an EDT one so I'll be moving the 10 boys there away.

Are you Alliance or Horde? I'm going to make my main DK there since that's where my coworkers play.

 

[coloumb]

Originally posted by: DontMindMe

Originally posted by: dougp
At this point they need to roll back and figure this shit out - it's starting to interfere with players in CST & EST.

nerdrage

lol.. yes...big time nerd rage.

Crap happens - deal with it. Go watch some tv, go watch a movie, GO OUTSIDE FFS.

 

[MarkW]

Originally posted by: coloumb


lol.. yes...big time nerd rage.

Crap happens - deal with it. Go watch some tv, go watch a movie, GO OUTSIDE FFS.

But... we are paying $15 a month to play wow, not $15 a month to go outside...

im.. so... confused..

 

[dougp]

Originally posted by: coloumb

Originally posted by: DontMindMe

Originally posted by: dougp
At this point they need to roll back and figure this shit out - it's starting to interfere with players in CST & EST.

nerdrage

lol.. yes...big time nerd rage.

Crap happens - deal with it. Go watch some tv, go watch a movie, GO OUTSIDE FFS.

Which I do ... I can only imagine if I told a client that we can't get their EDI's out. Pay for service, expect service.

 

[lupi]

It's a bit hard to read there chart on a mobil, but looks like there are only 3 bosses left to be killed.

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: lupi
Wooohooo, can finally transfer some toons off of bronzebeard.

Many years ago I missed doing the transfer to ET (which I believe is EDT) cause I wasn't raiding yet and had no problem getting any 5 mans. Of the three realms opened for free transfers off, Garrosh is an EDT one so I'll be moving the 10 boys there away.

Are you Alliance or Horde? I'm going to make my main DK there since that's where my coworkers play.

Those guys are allies.

 

[lupi]

Only 2 bosses left.

 

[Aikouka]

I'm hoping to get in to there tonight and hoping that all of my add-ons will work .

 

[DirthNader]

Originally posted by: Soccerman06
...As cb, make a macro for incinerate/cb and you have 4 buttons to press, imm conflag macro cod and vs coa corr ua haunt sb (hell you could put conflag in the macro if you really were lazy).

I've been thinking about this a bit because for whatever reason chaos bolt has always been clunky for me in deep destro builds.

I don't see putting incinerate and chaos bolt in the same macro, but what about:

/castsequence Conflagrate, Chaos Bolt

There's a 2s difference in the cooldowns, with ~1s being consumed on the GCD. Chances are I'm not going to hit conflag the instant it comes off of cooldown, so in a practical sense I think this would work, letting me use one keybind to cast chaos bolt right after conflag.

 

[ModerateRepZero]

But the thing is... what's our role? We can't be quick raid healers anymore because of Nourish requiring HoTs to already be on the target. Why even raid heal? Just bring a shaman and have them chain heal and it will be more effective than us. I've already hated Wild Growth for the longest time... it's a poor man's Circle of Healing. Well, I mostly hated it in Loatheb .

The one fight I'm trying to get my hands around now is Patchwerk. As much as Naxx isn't the big dog anymore, that fight used to require me to HoT up all three tanks and keep them up... now what do I do? Am I reduced to simply being a single tank healer where I keep rejuv and regrowth up and just nourish spam?

Also, the change to LB simply makes it really weird... we're essentially given a "reverse Regrowth" as in we apply a HoT and it has a direct heal at the end, which isn't necessarily when we want it >_<.

EDIT:

I ended up coming up with something like this:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent...Zf0fuiuxVuVhsVo:LAq0zm

But I'm not sure where to put the last three points. Are people considering Revitalize worthwhile? It might be decent in conjunction with the Wild Growth glyph. There's also keeping Nature's Grace even though it was changed from a flat .5s to 20% (Blizzard using flat values like that ).

I haven't been a healer that long (only dinged 70 late sept and been 'very casual' raid healing since i dinged 80), but my understanding is that resto druids were/are good for MT healing. Stack HoTs on tank, nourish and/or swiftmend if you need instant heal (with NS/HT the emergency heal).

I agree, WG isn't a great AoE heal but blizz is trying to not get (healing) classes excluded due to a capability they lack. Resto shamans for the time being are still THE best chain healers (if not healing class) and have bloodlust/heroism, but druids have battle rez and innervate, so each healing class brings something to the table....to give a different example from melee, rogues for the longest time didn't have AoE attack/ability so they were disadvantaged on certain trash mobs.

We're not paladins just spamming direct heals...which is why Blizz designed Nourish so that you need a HoT to set up nourish. Maybe I was healing overgeared tanks, but I seldom had a problem using up one GCD to cast lifebloom or RJ and then go back to spamming nourish on Patchwerk. If I was 'feeling lucky' I'd risk 2 seconds to cast RG which would might not only crit but also set up SM. I was usually healing one tank on patch and on occasion if I had SM available and RG + RJ I'd sneak a quick heal on another tank. So yes, I would assume that for mana purposes you'll be better off focusing on 1 tank and *maybe* offhealing...unless you have like 5 healers on heroic or maybe 2 healers on reg naxx patch mostly deals dmg to the tanks; if dps is doing their job and not pulling aggro for hateful strikes they shouldn't need too much healing.

I'm not sure I understand your complaint about LB....the spell mechanic (excluding the mana refund) has been that way since TBC. Assuming that 3.1 LB isn't bugged, the only real change is that you can't cast LB more than three times to continually refresh the LB duration (which is what other druids did to 'control' when LB would bloom). In other words, you can't *continually* roll LB on a target without paying for it mana-wise

Eh hard to say about revitalize.....if you cast RJ/WG alot and not on yourself I suppose that it's not a bad spell. On the other hand though you're basically a 'mana battery' for someone instead of strengthening your healing. I'd say take revitalize if you tend to cast RJ/WG more than nourish/RG; otherwise spec for more crit/nature's grace and leave out revitalize.

Possible nourish spec with living seed, nature's grace, natural perfection for more crit talents.

The one suggestion I'd make to your link is to take out RJ glyph (since for endgame content you're in trouble if the target falls below 50% health) and replace it with either RG, Innervate, or LB depending on your preference. I suppose you can do the same thing with aquatic form (swap it with...I guess thorns?).

 

[Baked]

Oh man, putting kill shot on the GCD is a total bitch. Can't macro it to all my shots now. Need a whole new strat for shot rotation. Got Razor to 51% last night, need to work on adds to boss transition a little more.

 

[Anubis]

conflag just took a 30% nerf cant say i didnt see that coming

 

[Jax Omen]

Aikouka: Shock And Awe, as of yesterday, displays Stormstrike as a 10 second cooldown. Levva updated it 3 hours ago to a new version that fixes this, make sure you update that one