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Soccerman06

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really 8 minutes?

RH71 yes you can kill him with the DPS you are doing it will take longer and be harder because of that alone. The faster you kill him the easier it is because less/no marks go out as well as less of that other thing he does

I know its almost like we play a different game our last kill we had 2 people over 12k DPS 1 at 11 and then 12 between 8-10k

Damn mut rogues need to be nerfed. I do like blizzards recent response to rogue dps... basically "They arent the top on every fight so we wont nerf them." The examples gc gives are in toc and everybody is like um... rogues are pulling 11-12k single target dps and the closest class can only compete because of aoe, yeah that is completely fair.
 

rivan

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i dont think WOL shows things like flasks and food

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/60mznjq93a30pb1a/details/13/

It does on that window from some random, recently posted report. Click on a name, then the "Buffs Gained" tab. Aikouka's report isn't showing food or flasks for the top 3 dps:

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/m532vktimkh2x9xh/details/15/?s=2608&e=3094
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/m532vktimkh2x9xh/details/12/?s=2608&e=3094
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/m532vktimkh2x9xh/details/0/?s=2608&e=3094

They have a moonkin, but no GoTW and pallies but no Blessings. Is the log fucked up?
 
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Cerebus451

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They have a moonkin, but no GoTW and pallies but no Blessings. Is the log fucked up?
The log parser can only pick up what is in the log. If you start logging after everyone has eaten and the buffs have been cast, then the log parser can't pick those items up. If you start logging as soon as you zone in, then all the buffs would be in the log. It's a timing thing.
 

nageov3t

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forums are reporting that Rotface 10-man had his HP nerfed... wonder if it applies to 25-man too.

we were taking him to sub-10% almost every pull before the slimes just went out of control and we started losing healers.
 

Anubis

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tbqhwy.com
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/60mznjq93a30pb1a/details/13/

It does on that window from some random, recently posted report. Click on a name, then the "Buffs Gained" tab. Aikouka's report isn't showing food or flasks for the top 3 dps:

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/m532vktimkh2x9xh/details/15/?s=2608&e=3094
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/m532vktimkh2x9xh/details/12/?s=2608&e=3094
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/m532vktimkh2x9xh/details/0/?s=2608&e=3094

They have a moonkin, but no GoTW and pallies but no Blessings. Is the log fucked up?

WOL must be dilly because its now showing food/ flasks for our raids on anyone and thats wrong
 

Aikouka

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Why isn't your warrior tank heroic striking?

Jesus, for that matter, why isn't anyone showing any food buffs or flasks?

I have no idea anymore. I don't even pay attention to people now, because I'm just tired of it all.

Oh and I realized one mistake I was making... I don't use my fire elemental, because I'm so used to it having a 20 minute cooldown that I'd try and preserve it, but now it can usually be used every boss fight/attempt.

EDIT:

Jesus christ, another 3% wipe on a supposedly gimme boss. Only two of us are above 8k in DPS (me and a mut rogue).

EDIT 2:

OMG we finally killed him!

Stupid dual Priest/Pally/Warlock... I wanted my T10.25 >_<.

EDIT 3:

We got Rotface to around 40% or so. Some people kinda suck with their oozes and don't realize that they need to be sort of near the big ooze to combine them. Some people weren't keeping an eye on the flooded quadrants during the explosions. I wish we had 3 shamans or at least a frost DK so I could ignore Windfury and drop the Nature Resist totem. Right now we have a hunter using Aspect of the Wild to help with nature damage.
 
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nageov3t

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man... Festergut is a joke after wiping on Rotface for 2 nights.

got Rot after an hour tonight (plus 2 hours last night and an hour on Tues) and then downed Festergut after 3 pulls.
 

Aikouka

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Uhoh, Rogues are getting nerfed and Warlocks are getting buffed!

As many of you have suspected, we think rogue damage is too high. We will be making hotfixes to lower the maximum damage output of Assassination and Combat rogues. The Combat nerf will be slight. Both specs should still do just fine on damage meters (assuming skill, gear etc.) but shouldn't be beating out other specs to such a large degree.

Other things on our radar that you might see soon -- none of these are promises and we have no specific changes to announce yet:

* Warlock damage in PvE is a little low.
* Protection warriors have too much utility and damage for PvP. (We don't want to hurt their tanking in PvE of course.)
* We are considering adjusting (not replacing) the Elemental 4 piece Tier 10 set bonus.
* We'll continue to refine and look at the Icecrown weapon procs.
* Other stuff (yes, we've heard your concerns), but these are the big things we are focusing on at this time.


Some of these changes, should we decide to pursue them, can be handled via hotfix and others will be made in an upcoming patch.

We usually don't make such general announcements before we're ready to share the specifics, so we'll see how this works out.

Oh and I had the oddest feeling today. When fighting Rotface... I was actually having fun :O. I don't think I've had fun while raiding in a long time.
 

Soccerman06

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Rogue dps was already been implemented, ie Hunger for Blood down to 5%. The second one they are considering is putting an increased timer.
 

DangerAardvark

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The bonus damage rogues gain from attack power for poisons has been decreased. This applies to Instant Poison, Deadly Poison, and Wound Poison.

Awesome, I look forward to regemming again.

Edit: meh, it's only down 10&#37;. But with both Mutilate and Combat neck and neck again for single target, I might end up regemming anyway for Combat's utility.
 
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Aikouka

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Ouch... 10&#37; to 5%. I'm tempted to avoid keeping it up in heroics with that small boost. Although, I'm pretty used to doing it now, so meh.

My problem is that Hunger for Blood is becoming much more of a lackluster talent and it's already not a fun talent. Killing Spree in Combat is far more interesting.
 

rh71

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Awesome, I look forward to regemming again.

Edit: meh, it's only down 10%. But with both Mutilate and Combat neck and neck again for single target, I might end up regemming anyway for Combat's utility.

re-gem to what? Is agi better than ap again?
 

lupi

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Rogue damage too high and lock too low, go figure. Guess this means they are finally moving past the first step in recognizing the problem.
 

Moonzi

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25 rotface down after nerf...I honestly hope no more nerfs I like hard instances

Fester was easy in ten I wonder how he'll be in 25....
 

Aikouka

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25 rotface down after nerf...I honestly hope no more nerfs I like hard instances

Fester was easy in ten I wonder how he'll be in 25....

What nerf? The stuff I read says only 10-man got nerfed because it was using 25-man's injection timers.
 

nageov3t

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25 rotface down after nerf...I honestly hope no more nerfs I like hard instances

Fester was easy in ten I wonder how he'll be in 25....
the only "nerf" to 25-man Rotface as far as I'm aware was them fixing buggy slimes not merging.
 

Malladine

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I know this is a wicked hardcore thread now, so at the risk of seeming a giant noob I have a question

Just resubbed and started playing my orc warrior again. I'm in borean tundra right now and about to hit 71. But my question is: what am I getting myself into leveling warrior in this day and age? I know a lot has changed since i last played (a year or more). My badges of justice are useless now apparently...etc...

Anyone care to fill me in a bit?
 

Onita

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I know this is a wicked hardcore thread now, so at the risk of seeming a giant noob I have a question

Just resubbed and started playing my orc warrior again. I'm in borean tundra right now and about to hit 71. But my question is: what am I getting myself into leveling warrior in this day and age? I know a lot has changed since i last played (a year or more). My badges of justice are useless now apparently...etc...

Anyone care to fill me in a bit?

Are you going to tank or DPS?
 

Malladine

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Are you going to tank or DPS?

In the past I was fury DPS, lots of pvp with a tank set on me, but not much in the way of talent pts into protection. But i'm open to anything - seeing this as a clean slate kinda thing since i've been away so long!
 
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