sometimes I hate my fucking guild... top dps every single night in 25-mans and yet, my ass has been out in the cold when it's come to every guild 10-man run since Ulduar.
I think me and the non-raiders are the only ones in my guild without the ulduar drake and starcaller (I've never even killed yogg-10 on easy mode).
not sure what the trick is; ever since my sister quit the game, I've been like permanently relegated to the B team. not that I even need 10-man loot, but getting treated like a bitch is kinda pushing me closer and closer to game quitting.
•Icy Talons: The personal haste benefit provided by this talent is no longer exclusive with other sources of melee haste. This will allow death knights to always swing 4/6/12/16/20% faster when Frost Fever is applied. Windfury Totem and the party/raid component of Improved Icy Talons still do not stack.
@ Frost DK changes: holy shit, 20% haste, 10% offhand damage, 4% strength, AND 10% str during UBA? That is a LOT of buffs. Frost DKs are going to rock next patch.
I've been in that situation before. Top DPS in 25-mans yet when it comes time for 10-mans the Rogue who I consistently out-DPS gets the invite. He must have been in the cool kids club.
I've also been in the cool kids club before (it's a pretty sweet club).
So that means a Frost DK can swing 40% faster (20% personal + 20% raid buff)...couple that with Unholy Presence and Heroism... :awe:
Can the game even show someone attacking that fast?
Y'ain't never seen an Enhancement Shaman, have you?
Had a great day for gearscore last night. While on my shammy someone advertised a voa 25 that had no hunters or shammies yet (let me just say, screw you damn hunters and your voa lootmill, if a boss doesn't go down and drop at least 1 hunter piece I'd be shocked), so I asked and got invited. Another shammy also elm joined at about the same time. As we were buffing up after clearing trash the other shammy starts whining about how can their be another shammy in the raid with a GS of only 4.3k. He whines again as no one responded to his first one. Then someone made fun of him by saying if a class item dropped I'd probably win the roll too. And then he really went off and started saying that if I died I had better not get any loot. Then we do the fight and I lead in total damage done during the fight until the end and his dps number was only a couple hundred more than mine. So I just let him know about how well he performed prior to the second boss; yeah he really didn't take that well but it served its purpose as he pretty much shut up after that.
Then later while on the pally and waiting for LFG to pop some idiot was spamming for an os3d zerg with "gs 5.4k or more or don't pst). Since I was just waiting I made a couple comments starting with asking if any os3d groups where forming and within a couple minutes about a dozen others had joined in and started the gs mocking. Ah feels good to see mission accomplished.
I've been in that situation before. Top DPS in 25-mans yet when it comes time for 10-mans the Rogue who I consistently out-DPS gets the invite. He must have been in the cool kids club.
I've also been in the cool kids club before (it's a pretty sweet club).
So that means a Frost DK can swing 40% faster (20% personal + 20% raid buff)...couple that with Unholy Presence and Heroism... :awe:
Can the game even show someone attacking that fast?
I don't know about "rock", but DK DW DPS will actually be playable for the first time since the days between WotLK launch and 3.0.8 (I believe) which killed the OP 0/32/39 DW DPS spec. Ahh, the days of Howling Blast being a 21 point talent.../sniff
frost DKs DPS in Blood pres, they have since they orig nerfed it
Think I linked to a video here about someone (think rogue) that had a couple weapon, enchants, and talent procs all at the right time and gave him an attack speed close to 0.
Maybe your guild is less focused on 10 man progression and more focused on getting everyone's gear up faster. I am the lowest geared in my guild (and usually sitting around 5-6th in DPS) and I get a little annoyed when I don't get into the two 10 mans we run. Both already clear to LK for the most part (and get in a few attempts on him usually). I could, well up until last night when I spent all my DKP, use a lot of upgrades from there. I could still use a few, but nothing hardcore like before.
Oh, and Shadowmourne stole our guilds Putricide kill last night... Had him to like 37% with about 3 and a half minutes until enrage and the guy in the a-bomb didn't slow the last red slime so he could do whatever the soul steal thing was for the quest... We wiped... That was our closest attempt to push P3. Oh well, when we pick it up on Monday, we'll down him NP. 8/12 isn't too bad I suppose.
we have 2 10 mans running currently. A bunch of people don't have a 10 man. I don't know how it is in your guild but we don't pick up people because of their skill. The 10 man we are in has been running together since we all hit 80, we changed up 2 or 3 people over the course of that time due to people quiting or just got really busy.
We have some people bitching how they don't have a 10 man, but honestly, there are enough people without one that they can form a 3rd and run it themselves.
If you're a 25 progression guild and you have people who could use upgrades from ICC10, there is no real reason to sit them if the group can handle it. Obviously, them being in the 25man means they can't be terrible or you're carrying them. Either way, getting the lowest geared up to par with everyone else helps the raid a lot more than getting "progression" by downing LK.
we had a second 10-man, but it was definitely B-team and the raid leader who was running it decided to stop... there's this annoying attitude in my guild where if one of the raid/guild leaders isn't putting it together, no one wants any part of it, so my attempt to put together a second 10-man run with none of the cool kids in it has been less than spectacular.
While this is true that someone will have to sit, it would be more advantageous to the guild as a whole to sit the people who cannot obtain upgrades in the 10 man groups than to sit those who can. It is difficult to PUG more than the first 4 bosses most of the time. Yes, seeing the fights before attempting on 25 man helps, but having players better geared for the content I think helps a lot more.Molondo does not know it yet, but we have a 3rd ten-man team starting this week. This helps get most, if not all of our mains into a 10-man group.
The problem with what you are suggesting is that to get those members into a group we would have to sit someone else. Someone who has been a member of the 10 man for months. If we have a regular member missing, then absolutely we would sub in another member without a regular 10 man. It helps if they get some gear, but more importantly it helps to see the fights before we get to them in 25.
Yes (I have one but he is only level 72), but can they attack that fast? I mean, just by doing napkin math, a DW Frost DK in Unholy Presence will swing 55% faster plus whatever Heroism adds on.
While this is true that someone will have to sit, it would be more advantageous to the guild as a whole to sit the people who cannot obtain upgrades in the 10 man groups than to sit those who can. It is difficult to PUG more than the first 4 bosses most of the time. Yes, seeing the fights before attempting on 25 man helps, but having players better geared for the content I think helps a lot more.
If haste scales like other stats (which I have not looked into) then for each point of haste you gain, the less % value it has. Therefore it would be extremely difficult, possibly impossible (lol), to get a swing timer down to 0. Unless, you can stack pure swing speed increase and not haste, I don't see this happening.